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    Hi, so i called an agency about doing some private parties, the agent told me that i would be paid 100-125 dollars for an hour show, but included in the hour is 10 min. to set up and 10 min. to get changed so really 35- 40 minutes. I asked if you usually go with another girl and he said not unless the client requests 2 girls and usually they are lesbian shows. He said the girl is expected to get to the party on her own and that it is not recommended to go alone but they dont really supply the security, so that means i would probably have to find my own and pay them unless it were a friend or boyfriend but i wouldnt be comfortable with that. There is no contact at the shows(which is good) and they supply the party set up equipment, i guess that means lights and stereoetc. plus tips. I guess i just dont know if it is worth it, if i were to just advertise myself i could charge alot more for an hour because i'm pretty sure he is making a good profit off it. Let me know what you all think.

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    What the hell good is an agency that makes you get your own work?The whole point of an agency is that they get work FOR you(well..not the WHLE point, but a big part).

    And $125 an hour?? Not nearly enough..esp since the "agency" will likely demand a cut of that
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugar lips View Post
    Hi, so i called an agency about doing some private parties, the agent told me that i would be paid 100-125 dollars for an hour show, but included in the hour is 10 min. to set up and 10 min. to get changed so really 35- 40 minutes. I asked if you usually go with another girl and he said not unless the client requests 2 girls and usually they are lesbian shows. He said the girl is expected to get to the party on her own and that it is not recommended to go alone but they dont really supply the security, so that means i would probably have to find my own and pay them unless it were a friend or boyfriend but i wouldnt be comfortable with that. There is no contact at the shows(which is good) and they supply the party set up equipment, i guess that means lights and stereoetc. plus tips. I guess i just dont know if it is worth it, if i were to just advertise myself i could charge alot more for an hour because i'm pretty sure he is making a good profit off it. Let me know what you all think.
    Ok, so explain to me how this asswipe is in business? He doesn't get you the girls, you do...they dont supply the security..girl please. Go elsewhere! I cant' believe they even hire girls.

    From personal experience, you DO NOT need all this bright extravagent lights and awesome studio equipment. You're going to be dancing for a room full of drunk (and also likely high) men at a bachelor party. They could give a dam less about lights and music equipment. Find a REAL agency. One who supplies you with contacts and security. Save yourself some sanity babe







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    Quote Originally Posted by sugar lips View Post
    He said the girl is expected to get to the party on her own
    You misread what she was saying about the agency, the dancer is responsible for their transportation.

    I'll have to disagree with cinammonkisses about lights and stereo equipment making a difference at bachelor parties; if anything, it makes you (or your company) look professional, and we can all agree that our appearance is what makes us money! Effective lighting and music will create a sexy atmosphere and help with keeping the crowds attention.

    I visited a stag party with entertainment from another company and their dancers arrived without a boombox, they ended up dancing to music from a radio alarm clock that no one could hear over the crowd. One of the dancers had really bad stretch marks on her boobs and stomach and would've benefitted with dimmer lights and a flashing strobelight with a red filter.


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    yes, that is what i meant. you have to get there yourself and they dont provide security. They do have girls that work for them but,it is usually by yourself, i guess from what he told me. and the 125 dollars was all mine to keep, the customer has to put a deposit down and they pay you the rest at the party, so he already getshis cut with the deposit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugar lips View Post
    yes, that is what i meant. you have to get there yourself and they dont provide security. They do have girls that work for them but,it is usually by yourself, i guess from what he told me. and the 125 dollars was all mine to keep, the customer has to put a deposit down and they pay you the rest at the party, so he already getshis cut with the deposit.
    And you may not get anything but raped. What he is telling you is that not only is he way undercharging...but he gets HIS...and he then throws you to the drunken wolves all by yourself to get yours. NO. A good agency will get you more money(and actually GET IT FOR YOU....none of this hopng the guy actually ponies up your part when you get ther) provides security(as part of their fee) and any props, etc that are needed for the actual show(stereo equipment, lights,etc). You provide yourself, your talent and whatever props you need(costumes,toys,etc)

    Dont walk..RUN away from this douchebag
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    it is generally up to the girls to provide their own security!
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    I would never work for an agency that didnt...I would think that is the whole point of an agency...to make sure you are safe and get paid. Otherwise you could just do it yourself
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    I think that it is totally up to the girls to provide themselves with security! I know some of my girls will ask if I know of drivers/security to which 99% of the time I can assist them, but the girls must provide themselves with the security!

    The agency is paying a girl $125 p/h plus tips, where as the agency would be only charging a 20 - 30% profit.

    Lets break down the duties of an agent:

    Answer phones, take bookings, update websites, organize photo shoots, organize staff pays, deal with clients, assist clients with their needs and requirements, promote the business, do taxes and accounting, book staff, deal with strippers who are unreliable, hire staff, interview staff, meet clients the list goes on and on

    List the duties of the dancer:

    gets call/sms for job booking, books the job, prepares to do job, does job, gets tips, drives home, organize security/driver

    Agency recieves: $50
    Dancer recieves: $125 P/H + TIPS

    So as you can see, an agency actually does a hell of a lot of things, and I know now I have forgotten things from the list!

    Dancers are well better off then the agency, who more then likely has other dancers on their books, now if they were to organize security/drive for each girl (suppose they have 50+ girls on their books) then the agent wouldn't have time to fart and for a big $50 a party!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctstriptease1 View Post
    I'll have to disagree with cinammonkisses about lights and stereo equipment making a difference at bachelor parties; if anything, it makes you (or your company) look professional, and we can all agree that our appearance is what makes us money! Effective lighting and music will create a sexy atmosphere and help with keeping the crowds attention.
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    I think you misread my post..

    Trust me, lights and stereo are not all that important. Yes, they look great, but it won't make or break your show. And also, my main issue was the fact that this "agent" only supplies lighting and sound. So working with him would not be in her best interest at all.

    Having an agency supply you with contacts and security trumps lighting anyday!







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    Sugar lips, maybe you need other people's experiences to compare with. I danced at a strip club in Nebraska for three years. I was never "officially" a private party dancer, but occasionally, customers would come in looking for a stripper for a party. With the client, I would set the date and time of the party and explain the pricing; $350 for an hour + tips, paid on arrival. Then I would find a bouncer - several of the bouncers at our club were available on their nights off - and appreciated the extra cash. As the entertainer, you brought stereo and music, props as needed and costume. All the girls I worked with charged about the same amount, and some of them had parties every weekend, and this was in Nebraska, not the most affluent state in the union. I guess my point is, bouncer or not, $125/hour is not enough.

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    I was kinda thinkin' that 125 dollars wasn't enough. So thank you sherill for your comment. And i know for a fact that this guy is making more than 20-30% because a few months ago i called and asked him as a customer what it weould cost to have an hour show with 2 girls and he said like 500/hr so if each girls is getting 125 that leaves him with 50% of the profit! I dunno maybe i misunderstood him but there is only him and 1 more agency at where i live and i have heard he is one of the better ones! Anyways thanks girls i guess it would be good to try it out to get the experience, but i definatley wont be going alone! I am much smarter than that, then if i get comfortable with it, which probably wont take long i will start up my own thing, might as well by the sounds of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherrill View Post
    Sugar lips, maybe you need other people's experiences to compare with. I danced at a strip club in Nebraska for three years. I was never "officially" a private party dancer, but occasionally, customers would come in looking for a stripper for a party. With the client, I would set the date and time of the party and explain the pricing; $350 for an hour + tips, paid on arrival. Then I would find a
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    - several of the bouncers at our club were available on their nights off - and appreciated the extra cash. As the entertainer, you brought stereo and music, props as needed and costume. All the girls I worked with charged about the same amount, and some of them had parties every weekend, and this was in Nebraska, not the most affluent state in the union. I guess my point is, bouncer or not, $125/hour is not enough.
    Oh sherill, i was trying to point out a certain part of your message, but i dont think it worked. I wanted to ask how much you would pay the bouncer for an hour.

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    Hi there Iwas just trying to find out about a stripper for my partners son who is turning 18 in may and Ilive in Adelaide at Woodville I was wondering if there is anyone I can contact please.

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    A good agency will act as a filter - that is to say they will ensure (as best they can) that Joe Bloggs who books the party is actually at a traceable address, responds to their contact details (preferably a land line), etc.

    This means that when a dancer does along they have some confidence it's a bona fide booking.

    A good agency will also be able to generate more bookings for you than you can on your own - part of your fee goes to maintaining their website/adverts in yellow pages, etc.

    Getting to the party on your own is not unusual - the guy that takes you there generally acts as your security. It means you need a male friend you can trust.

    They'll often stay in the room you change and watch your stuff, collect your clothes after your spot, etc, so you've got to be comfortable with them being 'backstage'.

    If they're supplying lights - great; but these'll only be needed for a function room. If the party's in a guy's front room, then a good portable sound system will suffice. Don't let the agency include lighting in their fee it it's not needed.

    Finally, if you want to book this sort of show for yourself, remember, you'll need to network with other girls. Guy's that book a repeat show will almost invariably want to see different dancers. The girls I know that do this sort of show swap this sort of booking between them - means they still get bookings and the guys do see different girls.

    Big no-no. Don't try and steal bookings from the agency. If they've booked you in there and the guy wants a repeat show, don't do it yourself. If the agency finds out; bye, bye further bookings. Do a number of shows and learn the ropes before thinking of branching out by yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameronfl View Post
    What the hell good is an agency that makes you get your own work?The whole point of an agency is that they get work FOR you(well..not the WHLE point, but a big part).
    Agreed!

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    And $125 an hour?? Not nearly enough..esp since the "agency" will likely demand a cut of that
    That depends on the market. Some regions just can't charge much more than that and still get the bookings (Seattle, for instance). Most agents take 25-50% of the hourly pay, but the dancer can keep all her tips, which can be quite a lot for an hour show. A good hustler can make $300+ for her 45 minutes dancing at a bachelor party.

    It sounds like she is going with one of the national agencies. Those guys take their cut directly from the customer's credit card. The companies that send the bouncer/driver along will take their cut after the party...It is usually more than what the national agencies are taking.

    Hire your driver from one of the local strip clubs. The bouncers at the clubs probably have experience doing parties, and won't be all googly eyed at the sight of a naked girl. I paid mine $50 a party plus 10% of the tips. No bouncer= no party for me, so it was totally worth it for me to pay him well.

    Besides, when all is said and done, how much of your money do the clubs take? Usually it is around 30-50% of your total earnings. Agencies take a flat fee every time.


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