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    Default Re: Wearing Wedding Rings/Bands while Stripping

    Kat you were honest for a minute and then hedged your bet with some grrl power stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR View Post
    Kat you were honest for a minute and then hedged your bet with some grrl power stuff

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    As I have commented on other similar threads, wearing a wedding/engagement ring to the club is a deal breaker and can cause dancers to lose sales.

    Many of these guys want to feel we are available. I could write a LONG thread involving all the negative instances I have experienced which cost me money and lost me customers, as well as those for co-workers, all because the customer found out their favorite dancers were engaged or married.

    Of course my opinion on the subject is that guys should just come to the club to kick it by enjoying some dances, a drink or two, and some stage tipping with no emotional interest in the girls they are spending money on, but many times that is not the case. When a guy feels we are not available, the money 8 times out of 10 dries up. The age of the customer is irrelevant. The older ones who spend the most money are the ones who will "vanish" once they see we have someone.

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    i just wanted to put my 2 cents in this thread....i always wore my ring and no one ever acted any different towards me. so it doesnt always matter....most of the times they were too drunk to care about things like that when they could be looking at other parts of the body lol!

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    I can see how wearing a ring might weed out custys who tend to get emotionally invested in their dancer (aka guys in stripclubs looking for soulmates), but I don't know if the pay cut would be worth it...

    I have, on the other hand, seen guys who were actually turned on by the idea of getting a dance from a married woman. Like the dancer was "cheating" on her man with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salsa4ever View Post
    But I have to be convinced *during the duration of the dance* that the girl thinks I'm absolutely hot, wants to take me home, and we are totally in love.
    Shit, most guys just have to be convinced that we're naked, smiling, and on top of them . . . you're one demanding (and wow, the above quote is depressingly needy) customer. I hope you tip fucking well for the amazing performances you receive.

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    ^^

    Seriously!!

    I hope you are prepared to bring a big fat engagement ring next time you come to the club since we are so in love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward View Post
    Define generously. In my experience the guys for whom this is an issue are rarely great customers.
    Exactly. I wonder why [the ring[/i] is such an issue - don't all guys just assume we all have boyfriends or something anyway?

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    No, not in my experience. Of course it depends on the club. In clubs with a more transient clientele, it may not be that big of an issue. Sometimes I will wear my ring in those types of clubs. But in many clubs with a more regular customer base, where many dancers have established customers, and where the customers are known by much of the staff, open knowledge of a boyfriend or husband could spell doomsday.

    Plus other girls could leak out a dancers "relationship status" to a customer accidentally, or on purpose if they become jealous or money hungry.

    One SW memberwas working with me one week on a booking and was sitting with a customer who had bought from me in the past pretty much every time he came in the club. He mentioned he hadn't seen her at the club before, and in the conversation he asked her how she got to work and she told him she rode with me and my guy. She meant no harm, she was just talking. Well lo and behold, he would never buy from me again.

    Many good customers can be lost once they see you are "attached". The name "Teasers", and "Heartbreakers" have been given to strip clubs for a reason.

    Lots of these guys regularly buy from their favorite dancer or become regulars because they hope one day something will develop. And eventually when it doesn't, they go away. The "hobbyists" such as Chili Palmer and the like just enjoy the bumping and grinding from a variety of girls whom they find sexually attractive. They don't get emotionally involved.

    But for lots of guys, the only reason they go to a club is because of their attraction to a certain dancer. Once that dancer seems unattainable, their interest in strip clubs in general is non-existant. Their greatest fear is that the dancer they have fallen for is taken.

    If a dancer works in a club where they have a loyal following of guys, not appearing single could be a deal breaker to 60-70% of them. Many nof these guys spend good money. REALLY good. They spend a lot becasue they like you.

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    No one has mentioned that an unmarried customer may actually RESPECT the institution of marriage to the point that he thinks he doesn't have any business fantasizing about anyone but a single woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njcustomer View Post
    ... and obvious std growth down-under is #(1)
    Oh, don't let the growth down-under fool you. Lots of girls fake that with makeup just to keep you from sticking your fingers in there. It's not necessarily a sign of actually having an STD.


    Quote Originally Posted by njcustomer View Post
    When I see the ring I think two things:
    1) This girl is OBVIOUSLY not available
    2) There is a guy @ home that dropped $$$ thousands of dollars on a ring; much more than the 400 I have in my pocket.
    3) This girl OBVIOUSLY has a family support system and is not desperate enough to blow me for $20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward View Post
    Shit, most guys just have to be convinced that we're naked, smiling, and on top of them . . . you're one demanding (and wow, the above quote is depressingly needy) customer. I hope you tip fucking well for the amazing performances you receive.
    I'll answer your question first. I do tip well when I receive such a splendid performance, but it's not all the time

    I'm describing the ideal... the pinnacle of what exotic dancer should be for me. I never purported to represent the entire male species. And if a dance falls short of that mark, doesn't mean it's not still a great dance.

    In the end, I don't think it's disputable that wearing a ring is antithetical to the character and purpose of exotic dancing. It's open to debate how important it is. I think it's not important because it says the dancer is taken, because I couldn't care less. But it signals that the dancer is not 100% committed to presenting the best possible image and taking her work seriously.

    It's like being a lawyer and dressing inappropriately. Should it matter? No. Does it mean you're incompetent? Not on it's own. Does it signal you don't take your work seriously and with the utmost pride? Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salsa4ever View Post
    In the end, I don't think it's disputable that wearing a ring is antithetical to the character and purpose of exotic dancing. It's open to debate how important it is. I think it's not important because it says the dancer is taken, because I couldn't care less. But it signals that the dancer is not 100% committed to presenting the best possible image and taking her work seriously.
    What do you mean, it's indisputable? We're disputing it. Other customers are disputing it. Exactly what some of us are saying is that the ring DOES NOT signal that she is not 100% committed to presenting "the best possible image." Of course it's disputable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by salsa4ever View Post
    In the end, I don't think it's disputable that wearing a ring is antithetical to the character and purpose of exotic dancing.
    Oh, now, don't leave us hanging! I absolutely have to hear what you say is the "character and purpose of exotic dancing."

    What you mean, clearly, is that the thought of married women as sex objects disturbs you. That's fine; that's your deal. But when you project those issues onto all married/ring-wearing dancers . . . .


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    Quote Originally Posted by salsa4ever View Post
    I'll answer your question first. I do tip well when I receive such a splendid performance, but it's not all the time

    I'm describing the ideal... the pinnacle of what exotic dancer should be for me. I never purported to represent the entire male species. And if a dance falls short of that mark, doesn't mean it's not still a great dance.

    In the end, I don't think it's disputable that wearing a ring is antithetical to the character and purpose of exotic dancing. It's open to debate how important it is. I think it's not important because it says the dancer is taken, because I couldn't care less. But it signals that the dancer is not 100% committed to presenting the best possible image and taking her work seriously.

    It's like being a lawyer and dressing inappropriately. Should it matter? No. Does it mean you're incompetent? Not on it's own. Does it signal you don't take your work seriously and with the utmost pride? Yes.

    I must say, this is one of the most well thought out and well stated really stupid statements Ive ever read here on Stripperweb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward View Post
    Oh, now, don't leave us hanging! I absolutely have to hear what you say is the "character and purpose of exotic dancing."

    What you mean, clearly, is that the thought of married women as sex objects disturbs you. That's fine; that's your deal. But when you project those issues onto all married/ring-wearing dancers . . . .



    And I'm not even married anymore!

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    That's hot.

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    ^^LOL!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward View Post
    What you mean, clearly, is that the thought of married women as sex objects disturbs you. That's fine; that's your deal.
    I agree. I hadn't thought of it that way before, but it's true that my entire position hinges on an assumption that the ideal striptease is performed by an ostensibly unattached dancer. I make no apologies for that position. I don't see why it's any less valid a position than the alternative.


    As for "imposing" it on everyone, I did not. The OP stated he thinks striptease dancers should not wear rings, and asked for comment. I gave it.


    Let's assume there are X% of people who dislike dancers wearing wedding rings, and y% of people who don't give a shit. I'll assume that nobody actually *prefers* dancer wearing rings - I have no compelling basis for this, other than the fact I've never heard anyone actually express such a preference. From a purely strategic standpoint, isn't it optimal for a dancer not to wear a ring because the ring is beneficial in 0% of cases and harmful in >0% of cases? It follows that "girls who want to maximize their earnings potential should not wear a ring". You might say the difference is negligible. Maybe it is, may be it's not

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    I personally do not care if a stripper is married as long as her jealous husband doesn't show up at the club with a gun while I'm there.

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    And I don't care if you're married as long as your wife doesn't barge in and try to kick me off of your lap.

    Quote Originally Posted by salsa4ever View Post
    I agree. I hadn't thought of it that way before, but it's true that my entire position hinges on an assumption that the ideal striptease is performed by an ostensibly unattached dancer. I make no apologies for that position. I don't see why it's any less valid a position than the alternative.
    Are you or have you ever been married? How severe, exactly, is your Madonna/whore complex?


    Quote Originally Posted by salsa4ever View Post
    As for "imposing" it on everyone, I did not.
    You said it was indisputable, and then you accused strippers with rings of being shitty at their job and uncommitted to doing it well. That's something of an imposition. "I don't like it because it fucks up my fantasy and kills my boner" would have been just fine, but then you go and say a ring-wearing stripper is a bad stripper? That's an imposition and an insult.

    You know, it's always entertaining to me when a customer says something like, "You would make so much more if you did blah blah blah." Like one idiot tried to tell me precisely how spreading my legs more on stage would make me rich. Uh, no it won't. Perverts will give me a few more singles, but in no way, none, zip, will it help me sell dances or VIPs. But the guy thought he knew how what would make more money, when in reality he was only projecting his desires. But I'm sure he'd be all, "well, you'd show more vag if you were really committed to the job."

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    I hadn't thought of it that way before, but it's true that my entire position hinges on an assumption that the ideal striptease is performed by an ostensibly unattached dancer.
    Why do you presume that married or otherwise attached dancers are by default unavailable? Clearly, you need to spend some more time in the field...
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    One of the reasons I go to a SC is to AVOID commitment and responsibilty, not find it. The more the dancer is committed to a SO or husband the better.

    I don't think guys in general are into this fantasy thing that others have talked about (maybe a small percentage). Guys think sex; girls think fantasy/relationships.

    Maybe the dancers are projecting onto the customer what she THINKS is going through his mind, when in fact, it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    Why do you presume that married or otherwise attached dancers are by default unavailable? Clearly, you need to spend some more time in the field...
    Hee hee; so true; I have known many a married lady in or out of the club who wasn't "unavailable."

    Quote Originally Posted by James Bond View Post
    One of the reasons I go to a SC is to AVOID commitment and responsibilty, not find it.
    So true; I think the exact thing a lot of men like about the club is that they know they're never going to see us again.

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    Ah, the good old hall of smoke and mirrors that is a SC.

    Will Mrs Married Dancer lose Mr High Rolling Regular when he finds out she's married?

    Will Ms Single Mum be able to meet her credit card payments if Mr Knight in Shining Armour doesn't come in?

    Will Mrs/Ms Dancer with STD (or applied makeup) make it down to the clinic in time this week?

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