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    I tried the raw diet twice and failed because I couldn't figure out a few things... so here they are...

    Can I have orange juice if it's been pasteurized? Does pasteurization count?
    Can I have cold brewed tea? What if the leaves are dried? Does drying count as cooked?

    I think my main problem was with my drink choices. D:

    Other than that, eating out was a bitch.


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    No you cannot have pasteruized drinks!!!
    Raw basically means unpasteruized. Raw foods are not heated over 107 degrees which is the temperature that most enzymes denature and can no longer be used by your body. Pasteuization=heating the food/drink at high temps.

    Try buying a juicer and juice fresh fruit and vegtables. Jamba juice has a fresh squeezed orange juice or carrot juice that are fresh.

    You can have dried food only if you dry it yourself or it says "raw" on the package. You have to buy a dryer that you can set the specific temperture on. Set it no higher the 105-107 degrees or it would be the same as cooking it.

    Fresh herbal caffiene free tea is okay! try brewing your own with fresh herbs like peppermint leaves.

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    Im working at a raw diet too!
    No pasturised products at all.
    Teas are your choice - some will argue that herbs dont release their healing goodness if you dont use boiling water to brew them. Also a diet is still considered 'raw" if its 80% raw but its down to individual choice and beliefs.

    With juicers too you need a raw juicer. I am just about to purchise one from here

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    Quote Originally Posted by naughty_princess View Post
    No you cannot have pasteruized drinks!!!
    Raw basically means unpasteruized. Raw foods are not heated over 107 degrees which is the temperature that most enzymes denature and can no longer be used by your body. Pasteuization=heating the food/drink at high temps.

    Try buying a juicer and juice fresh fruit and vegtables. Jamba juice has a fresh squeezed orange juice or carrot juice that are fresh.

    You can have dried food only if you dry it yourself or it says "raw" on the package. You have to buy a dryer that you can set the specific temperture on. Set it no higher the 105-107 degrees or it would be the same as cooking it.

    Fresh herbal caffiene free tea is okay! try brewing your own with fresh herbs like peppermint leaves.
    Don't have that here. Live in Australia.

    I'll probably buy a dryer.


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    Most countries have the equivalent of a Jamba Juice chain though. It's just a juice/smoothie bar. Like in Canada we have something called "Boost" juice chains, but it's basically a Jamba knock off.

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    Yes we do, but I actually see them pasteurizing the stuff in-store. I don't trust any of them.


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    eh... that stinks LM.

    But a decent starter juicer should be 60-100 usd, so it's best just to get your own. And the dryer isn't too bad either, mine was a gift so I dunno exactly how much. But it's well worth it.

    Just do as much as you can. I see great results with just 1/2 to 2/3 raw. That's pretty much breakfast, lunch and 1 raw snack a day. I just cannot do 80-100% right now.

    Oh, and nut butters and raw almonds and cashews (make sure they say raw) are amazing. Without them I can't survive.

    is a great site, btw.

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    http://www.raw-pleasure.com.au

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    Sorry to threadjack, but what sort of results have you ladies experienced from going raw? I'm very curious...

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    I just feel so much more alive - that the only way I can explain it. I just seem to have more drive!
    I keep messing up though - especially the last 2 weekends and I can really feel the difference. Its not that I feel bad now, its just that there was a definate big positive improvement in my mental well being and my energy after consumming alot of raw food for just 2 weeks. I dont have any mental issues to begin with either btw!
    Physically Im in good shape already especialy for my age, I cant say theres been any changes there really. Im worried about possibly loosing weight on the raw diet, but well just have to see I suppose. I wish id done the raw thing YEARS ago!
    I just need to plan my meals and diet better. Im also liking cooked food less and less it seems, although I probably wont cut it out completely.

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    A juicer would be a perfect addition to your kitchen if you decide to go raw. The easiest way to make sure it's ok is to do it yourself.

    Make sure your olive oil says "cold-pressed."

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    How come you're thinking of going raw? Health reasons?

    It's a tough diet to do. I did it for a couple of weeks maybe ten years ago. I made organic juices, ate fruit for breakfast and snacks and meals were mostly salads with cold-pressed linseed oil dressing plus nuts. I felt great, lost weight and my skin glowed, but yeah, super difficult to stick with for long periods. Good on you if you can!

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    What about flash pasteurized?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stripper_london View Post

    Rocks as a raw foodie resource

    ..I am almost there...!
    I was poking around that site and saw this:

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    the raw foodists of my acquaintance are bone-thin and have trouble keeping a healthy weight level (usually clustering around the edges of underweight).

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    Then they're not eating right! Nuts, olive oil and lots of other things are good for you raw. And raw foodists do have to eat a high quantity of food, since it's usually so low cal.

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    I disagree with that too. None of the raw food people Ive ever know would be described as "bone thin". Slim yes, not bony. Very healthy. I knew one girl who was a little on the large side too.
    I just have always been skinny no matter what I eat. I have a very small frame and high metabolism. I find it very hard to keep weight on and I also HATE food preparation. Sometimes with dietry changes it takes a while for me to "get it right" so to speak, thats the reason I mentioned the weight thing. It doesnt apply to everyone.

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    Sorry to threadjack, but what sort of results have you ladies experienced from going raw? I'm very curious...
    I won't bore everyone with the details, but long story short, I had a friend in undergrad dying of a pancreatic condition that was untreatable. A friend gave her a book called "The Raw Life" and she decided that she had nothing to lose by trying it in an effort to gain some degree of comfort. Six months later, after being totally raw, all of her chronic conditions had disappeared. I was blown away, as I was highly skeptical of the whole thing, but it was a real eye-opener to me and was a turning point in my own dietary regime.

    It can work, even if you're not 100% raw; getting all processed food out of your diet isn't as hard as you think it is, and even if you're still cooking some of your food, it's better that you're doing the processing than an assembly line at Kraft.

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    I really want to start trying to go raw too, but good lord...I thought life was tough when I was a simple vegetarian.

    I was raised on such shit food, I really think it has much to do with my poorly functioning digestion system nowadays, and maybe even the fact that I look five years older than I am...I also have a terrible immune system. I think being raised on junk, even if it doesn't make kids overweight necessarily, it's so bad for them. My brother has awful skin issues...rashes and acne. Poor kid.

    I don't blame my mom or anything...but I want to try to reverse it all. I read about this Canadian triathelete who did all this nutrition research...his new book is called "The Thrive Diet". The synopsis alone got me very interested.

    You raw ladies, how did you manage it at first? Did you move into it slowly? Are those raw recipes tricky to pull off? I am so low maintenance with meal preparation, I have a feeling I'd just eat lots of salads and fruit.

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    I just started doing alot of juices for easyness though I already ate most of my veggies raw to begin with. Im still not much passed that stage. I recomend the juicing though that made so much difference and all of the veggies i never really liked taste good as juice!
    Nuts are easy too - you need to germinate them over night to get maximum goodness. I just stick a bunch on water before I go to bed and then munch on them the next day. Sprouts will be my next venture.
    Be sure to get a raw juicer though as the more mainstream ones on the market dont produce raw juice.

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    the ones i know are exceptionally thin because they exercise a lot and frankly, you cannot be excessively athletic and guarantee a sufficiently high caloric intake on a raw diet. you will lose muscle over time and have trouble maintaining weight.

    but then, i don't think raw, vegan, macrobiotic, fruit-only, sprout-only, etc diets should be adopted as a main diet-- only occasionally/temporarily for cleansing or change of pace. it is worth noting that vegan/raw/etc athletes cannot compete with athletes who have diets that are more calorically dense.

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    ^^^ Interesting. 2 of my raw food friends are personal trainers and have raw foodists for about 30 years now. One has recently started eating some cooked food again apparently in order to bulk up abit, but I never thought of him as excessivly slim to begin with.

    Not sure about anyone else but I have no intentions of going vegan anyway. I tried it once or twice many years ago now and swore Id never be doing it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flickad View Post
    How come you're thinking of going raw? Health reasons?

    It's a tough diet to do. I did it for a couple of weeks maybe ten years ago. I made organic juices, ate fruit for breakfast and snacks and meals were mostly salads with cold-pressed linseed oil dressing plus nuts. I felt great, lost weight and my skin glowed, but yeah, super difficult to stick with for long periods. Good on you if you can!
    Originally it was because I felt fat and it seemed a pretty strict diet.

    Now it's just because I feel sick when I eat sugary things and thought it would help me feel better.


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    My aunt and her 3 small children are on this diet, and their weight is all fine. The children are all growing normally. You do have to eat a lot, like I said. About 2-3x as much food as if you had a regular diet. And it may not be good for athletes to be 100%, but a lot of them are, very successfully.

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    The raw food diet intrigues me too.. its hard to put it in place in regular life (being around regular peoples) but i havent given up.. As for juices .. from what Ive read the goal is 100% raw which means no heat above 115 i think so that all enzymes ect.. remain 100% in tact.. Orange juice means you squeeze your own and drink it within 10 min or it changes composition and becomes mostly sugar or something like that.. the reason bottled juice tastes so different than fresh squeezed..
    The thing is .. from the raw websites i'm finding .. most people shoot for 75% raw.. that leaves a pretty big lee way .. if you have a glass of juice that is pasterized just count it towards part of the 25% that isnt raw..
    I think the 75% raw is a great health benefit in itself so 25% of heated stuff just fits in fine..
    Off subject but i find going RAW seems to turn into a kindof religion.. people start acting like im 100% raw.. oh your just 80% shame on you .. almost like what Vegan seems to turn into .. not all vegans but find alot of health avenues turn into more a religion.. to me that stress takes away from the good karma of just eating good.. If you cant do 100% raw so you just give up mentality..
    I say 75% raw.. that way if you sip a cooked juice or add a cooked portebello mushroom .. or want some cheese or cooked beans.. you wont feel guilty .. that all or nothing can really drive one batty
    Changes Ive made are making my own salad dressings... eating more apples and getting a juice press thing for orange and grapefruits.. using nut mixtures more like for a bowl of cut up fruit.. puree in a blender a nut, squeeze of orange juice and some dates.. makes like an almost whipped topping so you arent just eating fruit.. 100% raw means a counter full of fresh fruits/veggies and nuts and seeds and working them in together for meals.. no stovetop, some don't believe in dehydrating food .. ect.. some people even wince at blending food too much as they think the blender heats up .. just try to go fresh and dont allow yourself to freak out if something "cooked" touches your lips

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