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    Default Can't donate blood 'cause I'm a sex worker... buh?

    Let me get this clear...

    I have protected (with condoms!) sex with my duo partner, Dee, for money. As in, we both get paid to use strap ons and dildos on each other. We've both been tested, we both practice cleanly and we both sterilize our instruments.

    I went to donate blood and I was DENIED because I was a sex worker and I had, technically, slept with one in the past year.

    I was even tested LAST WEEK for aids, tb, hep a, b and c and it came back NEGATIVE...

    but noooo.... apparently, as a completely clean and careful sex worker, I'm not allowed to donate blood.

    As a sex worker, of any sort, I'm not allowed to donate blood.

    Wtf...???!



    They didn't even CARE I had unprotected sex with a man every day. How dare I have protected sex with a female sex worker when I'm also female!!



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    Default Re: Can't donate blood 'cause I'm a sex worker... buh?

    The controls may appear stupid, but I see where theyre coming from - better safe than sorry. Im not saying I totally agree with the restrictions either just that I get what theyre trying to do. Fuck ups in the past lead to this, I remember it being on the news. They possible wouldnt class you as a 'sex worker' if they looked at individual cases since youre not in the traditional sense of the term. They dont have the time or resourse to do that though.
    Up until recently I couldnt donate blood because I lived in Britain - I believe thats just changed - other things may change in future too.
    The AIDS test isnt the most reliable of tests either, thats my guess as to why theyre being so cautious.

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    Default Re: Can't donate blood 'cause I'm a sex worker... buh?

    Try not to be too offended by it hun, some of the other restrictions are stupid too such as if u have visited certain countries recently and if you have had a tattoo (even as cosmetic tattoo such as lip colouring).

    It works just as a check-list and if you have done one of the things you are off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiepunkshocker View Post
    Up until recently I couldnt donate blood because I lived in Britain - I believe thats just changed - other things may change in future too.
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    I think that applies to people who lived or visited Britain during the 80s? coz of the mad cow outbreak - but i might be wrong there.

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    Default Re: Can't donate blood 'cause I'm a sex worker... buh?

    no, the England thing is still there, too. Bah.


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    Default Re: Can't donate blood 'cause I'm a sex worker... buh?

    ^^^
    yeh i thought so. my mum donates blood and i had a read of the form recently. i also remember reading somewhere that there was not a single reported case of hiv infection through legal prostitution in victoria - people are far safer with people that they dont know than they are with people who they trust.

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    Since I only have sex with myself (vibe shows no duo shows) and sex with a male every so often ("the penis") ... would I be excluded? OOps.. I would.. I have performed duo shows in the last year (with and without you LM) .... argh. I guess I will have to wait til near the end of the year.

    Or what happens if you just leave that information out? Is that wrong? Even if you know you are 'clean' ??


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    I've had sex with prostitutes, so when they asked me about it before my blood test at PP, I said 'yes'. I guess this put me in some high risk category. Oh well...I'm clean.
    If you really wanna donate blood, just lie or something. It's not like they're going to be able to tell that you stuff a dildo in some girl you know on a regular basis. Who cares if there is money exchanged?

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    I wouldn't leave the information out. There are a variety of reasons for that; write a letter. Here it is homosexuals; you are excluded if you are male and have ever had homosexual sex (protected or not) or have had sex with a male who has ever had homosexual sex. I "see" where they are coming from, however I still think where they are coming from is... well homophobic and wrong. The policy should be to exclude unprotected, promiscuous sex (like, I don't think they are going to demand that monogamous married couples use condoms to donate blood). I learned of this in college, where half the gay guys have had exactly 1 sexual partners and it was during the "spike" in protected sex. Saying "you can never be too careful" is irrational in this situation for a variety of reasons. With all the constraints and tests etc., there is no reason to exclude kinds of people rather than kinds of behaviour outside of assumptions, PR and stereotype.

    That said, they won't take my blood anyway. Low iron. But while we're here - everyone - donate blood and join the bone marrow registry. It's in you to give. But simultaneously write a letter to whatever body administers blood collection and object to discriminatory practice.
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    While everyone is here ... donate your body as well!

    http://www.ehow.com/how_110893_donate-body-science.html


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    Default Re: Can't donate blood 'cause I'm a sex worker... buh?

    I know WHY they did it, I just think it's completely silly. I mean, the little ticked boxes don't say 'female to female prostitution'... they just say prostitution... or homosexuality in males... actually, they don't even say prostitution, they say 'sex worker'... sex worker has SO many definitions. I believe having sex with females for money for people to watch is sex work... I mean, durr.

    It's just silly. I wanna help my new country and donate blood.

    Can't until I've been 'sex worker' free for a year.

    I told them I'd come back in a few decades. :/


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    Default Re: Can't donate blood 'cause I'm a sex worker... buh?

    Don't they do tests on each pint of blood they get anyway? I sure as hell hope so! So if they test everyone's blood who donates I don't understand why they wouldn't allow certain people to give and not give if the blood donor place is checking all the blood they get.

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    I havent been able to donate blood ever because as a minor I couldnt and since my 18th birthday I've been getting tattooed or pierced. The questions they ask are a riot tho. It seems like if you had sex in America in the 70's you can't donate. I know it's not true, but there are so many random question about having had sex in the 70's. Anyway sorry you couldnt donate you blood hun :-/
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    There was nothing in Australia about having sex in the 70s...

    But the England one was FUNNY... "Have you been to England since 1982?!"

    I'm like, no, 1981, why do you ask?!

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    I think ours has a lot to do with the 70's because that's when AIDS came out over here and maybe because there was a lot of drugs use. It seemed to me the questions revolved around drug use, sex in the 70's with a sprinkling of other random questions. like have you been to whatever country since whatever year, or one was just Africa, like as a whole. I dont remember it's been a good few years now since I even tried to give blood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leogirl876 View Post
    Don't they do tests on each pint of blood they get anyway? I sure as hell hope so! So if they test everyone's blood who donates I don't understand why they wouldn't allow certain people to give and not give if the blood donor place is checking all the blood they get.
    It is a cost issue. It costs money to the test the blood, so they want to maximize the "good" blood per tested batch by eliminating what they see as high risk groups. Here they actually have a thing (or used to - like I said, they won't take my blood) where you are given two stickers with a barcode one which scans "yes" and one which scans "no" that you peel off and stick to a form in case your shame prevents you from honestly talking to the counselors or answering the questions.
    Yes - they absolutely test ALL blood.
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    ^ Which is silly still because I even had papers documenting that I got tested LAST WEEK for my immigration (they need Hep A, B, C, AIDS and Terbuculosis).... and it was completely friggen clean.

    Apparently I had unprotected anal sex and shot up during that time... or something.


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    Yeah, but that is a policy thing - they exclude all of certain kinds of people. I don't defend this particular, I think it is wrong and discriminatory and illogical. But - if for example their policy was that they excluded people who had unprotected anal sex and shot up, sharing needles (that is, focused on risk behaviour, not kinds of people), you would understand THEN that a "disease free" certificate wouldn't trump their policy. Policies are fine - if for no other reason than the people that administer them are not going to be qualified to assess risks; the problem is what the policies ARE.

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    I do completely understand them... I just think there needs to be more 'case by case' studies then.. "Oh, sex worker... NO!" Or "Oh gay man... NO!"

    Edit: Which actually means we agree but are just going back and forth for some odd reason.


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    Does this go for the United States, too? Does this mean that I can't donate blood??
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    I dunno... I think stripping doesn't count as dangerous sex work like it does here since prostitution is legal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiepunkshocker View Post
    The controls may appear stupid, but I see where theyre coming from - better safe than sorry. Im not saying I totally agree with the restrictions either just that I get what theyre trying to do. Fuck ups in the past lead to this, I remember it being on the news. They possible wouldnt class you as a 'sex worker' if they looked at individual cases since youre not in the traditional sense of the term. They dont have the time or resourse to do that though.
    Up until recently I couldnt donate blood because I lived in Britain - I believe thats just changed - other things may change in future too.
    The AIDS test isnt the most reliable of tests either, thats my guess as to why theyre being so cautious.

    Honestly, I agree. Don't be offended but I wouldn't want a porn star or any sex worker doing it. AIDs sometimes doesn't even show up until after 6 months and up to 2 years. I can see why they are cautious.

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    I never claimed to be disagreeing with your distaste for the policy; I was just clarifying to someone who asked WHY they had controls while they tested, and why it is impractical to allow case by case instead of policies.
    Honestly, I agree. Don't be offended but I wouldn't want a porn star or any sex worker doing it. AIDs sometimes doesn't even show up until after 6 months and up to 2 years. I can see why they are cautious.
    Again - the problem is that they are relying on TYPES of people rather than types of behaviour. For example - more black men have AIDS than Caucasian men - based on that statistic should Blood Services be able to exclude black men? No, of course not - if black men are not engaged in high risk behaviour, there is no good reason to assume that they are unsafe because of that statistic. Similarly - homosexual men. If they do not have unprotected sex, they are not at a higher risk than heterosexual men, and certainly not more than hetereosexual women who engage in unprotected sex. Sex workers - same thing. If they are not excluding women based on promiscuity, but on high risk behaviour (that is, unprotected sex) there is no reason to exclude sex workers based on (inferred) promiscuity rather than high risk behaviour.

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    yeah its to do with mad cow but on tv last night they were advertising that its ok now - at least for some. (I was so surprised I sort of missed it but i sure it will be on again sometime.)
    If thats true I assume that they feel enough time has lapsed since the last outbreak for it to be safe.


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    I think that applies to people who lived or visited Britain during the 80s? coz of the mad cow outbreak - but i might be wrong there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    I never claimed to be disagreeing with your distaste for the policy; I was just clarifying to someone who asked WHY they had controls while they tested, and why it is impractical to allow case by case instead of policies.

    Again - the problem is that they are relying on TYPES of people rather than types of behaviour. For example - more black men have AIDS than Caucasian men - based on that statistic should Blood Services be able to exclude black men? No, of course not - if black men are not engaged in high risk behaviour, there is no good reason to assume that they are unsafe because of that statistic. Similarly - homosexual men. If they do not have unprotected sex, they are not at a higher risk than heterosexual men, and certainly not more than hetereosexual women who engage in unprotected sex. Sex workers - same thing. If they are not excluding women based on promiscuity, but on high risk behaviour (that is, unprotected sex) there is no reason to exclude sex workers based on (inferred) promiscuity rather than high risk behaviour.
    It's one of the only ways to "weed" out things, they are going on stereotypes, and I agree it's not perfect. I think all places that take blood should do some sort of test on the spot, they need to come up with ones that take two minutes instead of a few hours. Like a blood sugar monitor.

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