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    Interesting video regarding some of PETA's "ethical" ways.

    What do you think?

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    Yep, I forget where I've heard it, but I've heard of everything PETA does in that video before. I really thought that PETA was a bunch of idiots before, and still do. Back around Thanksgiving PETA called for people to stop eating turkey because they are "intelligent, creative animals." Are these not the same animals that drown in the rain because they are so stupid that they can't refrain from staring into the rain?
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    I really like eatting animals but I really do not like skinning an animal alive for the sake of eye lashes, coat or anything like that. I'm a fucking hypocrate because I don't know how I get my food but I am thinking that I am not really in to meat as much as I thought I was.

    I have to watch the vid but my kid has made a cookie mess so must clean...

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    You do know that Euthanasia is better than having an animal suffer a horrible death besides starving, mal nutrition, abuse, and that medical care for an animal can be costly, especially when there are no funds right?

    You want to save as many animals as possible in a shelter, but you can't save them all.

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    *vegetarian*

    While I'm not PeTA's biggest fan, they have helped me in my quest to go vegetarian. Some of their materials got me started. Plus they'll send you free stickers and stuff if you ask them to.

    Mostly, as I see it, they're harmless.
    I chat on their peta2 message boards a lot, mostly as a voice of common sense.

    But it is some of their campaigns that make me refuse to give them a dime.
    I'd love to work with them if only they were not bat-shit crazy.
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    After seeing the clip I can honestly say that like any extreem is not a healty or even good thing.

    I can understand both views and I can totally agree in many things with both.

    I do believe a human life is valuable. I can understand though how injecting an animal with a human illness can be seen as a cruelty.

    It is very hard to be labled something when it comes to this issue.

    I do not for the sake of "beauty" condone any type of animal cruelty. Not for shampoo, skin care, make up or anything like this.

    For survival yes, for vanity no.

    I still can see how Euthanasia isn't understood but if you do some reaserch on it you will find that after trying everything in the power of a shelter and no other option is available then they will humanly will euthanise an animal.

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    I'm tired of hearing of PETA. Just a bunch of whackos who believe they are better than everyone else and force their ideals on others.

    Fuck them.
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    PETA=People Eating Tasty Animals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kicks View Post
    PETA=People Eating Tasty Animals.
    Its springtime, so get your barbie fired up!
    *snorts*
    I always thought that parody was childish.

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    I agree with high heel lover: animal deaths for food = ok, animal deaths for vanity = no

    Though I really should put that into practice because I have a really beautiful leather coat I love to wear.

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    Without their extremism no one would pay attention to them. So in that respect their campaigns do work.

    I like PETA. Without them I don't think the majority of people would be as aware of animal rights issues as they are today, whether or not they agree or disagree.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSexKitten View Post
    I agree with high heel lover: animal deaths for food = ok, animal deaths for vanity = no

    Though I really should put that into practice because I have a really beautiful leather coat I love to wear.
    No worries, leather is generally a slaughterhouse byproduct. If you're going to eat their flesh, might as well wear the skins too. That's the difference between cow leather and mink fur.

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    i support the humane society and other organizations more then i do peta. they do help out but to what extent remains to be seen.

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    Ugh PETA...


    I say:




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    PETA membership has consistently contributed to the membership of the Animal Liberations Front. An Eco-terrorist organization that will kill human beings, and destroy property to "protect" animals.

    My favorite part PETA comic books for children. Nice rope'em while they are you. Get them naive before the critical thinking starts. These are the tame ones. Watch for the Your Daddy's a murderer comics. Showing an fisherman with a crazy maniacal look gutting a fish. (which is in this set).

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    I take it this wouldn't be a good thread for Ted Nugent quotes on this subject?


    As far as I'm concerned animal rights is no different than any other movement to make society more conscious of something. If people read the propaganda (and ALL persuasive arguments should be considered propaganda), and decide that they want to stop engaging in a certain behavior or practice themselves, then by all means have at it.

    When said people become so enthralled by that propaganda, that they feel the modification they've made in their lives is an edict that everyone must abide by, that's when they step over the line.

    Personally, I have yet to this day seen any social movement which was aided by visceral tactics, especially ones that involve violence or destruction of property. If anything, such tactics backfire horribly, which is why PETA has the reputation that it does.
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    ^Great post.

    Would I let my children have those comic books? Sure. Is there a difference between wanting to brainwash my children to not eat meat or brainwashing them that sex before marriage will make them burn in hell? No. I don't understand how explaining death of animals and fishing is aiding in naivete. It's quite the opposite in my mind. Taking your kids to McDonalds and them not knowing that something died for their burger is naive.



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    what i find entertaining about PETA is that they fail to take into consideration that ere it not for people hunting, killing, and eating animals that they themselves would not be alive. and that their ancestors wore animal skins to protect from adverse weather conditions. humans would not be "at the top of the food chain" by eating veggies only.
    not only that, but animals kill each other in order to survive, so why is it suddenly wrong for humans to do?

    i'm tired of my avid PETA member "friends" giving me crap because i happen to enjoy the occasional hamburger, or wear a leather jacket, etc.

    i'm all for treating animals nicely, but when animal life becomes more sacred than human life, i have a problem. its ok to kill a human infant in utero to avoid responsibility of raising a child (not for health reasons), but not ok to euthanize a dying animal? thats just sick.

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    *vegetarian*

    While I'm not PeTA's biggest fan, they have helped me in my quest to go vegetarian. Some of their materials got me started. Plus they'll send you free stickers and stuff if you ask them to.

    Mostly, as I see it, they're harmless.
    I chat on their peta2 message boards a lot, mostly as a voice of common sense.

    But it is some of their campaigns that make me refuse to give them a dime.
    I'd love to work with them if only they were not bat-shit crazy.
    Me too! I got started with them, then realized that they're a bunch of crazy radicals. I think they're goals are good, but their means are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardkandee View Post
    ^Great post.

    Would I let my children have those comic books? Sure. Is there a difference between wanting to brainwash my children to not eat meat or brainwashing them that sex before marriage will make them burn in hell? No. I don't understand how explaining death of animals and fishing is aiding in naivete. It's quite the opposite in my mind. Taking your kids to McDonalds and them not knowing that something died for their burger is naive.
    Umm When did we start with religion? I missed that. Though I am an atheist so i may have glanced over it. You don't think this is offensive propaganda and is ok for children? Now i admit these are really rather mild and makes it seem acceptable. I just think education on matter such as this are for the parents. I find it offensive to project Ideologies onto Elementary school children.

    I forget sometimes that most children now days have never gone fishing like I did with my Dad. Slipped eggs out from under a hen without getting pecked. Watched their Dad butcher chickens and help pluck the feathers. Not really to today's Childs benefit either. Since as you say it is rather naive not to know where your food comes from.

    I just feel that messages such as this should be restricted to 18+.

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    I originally went vegan based on information about factory farming on peta.org. While I no longer practice veganism, I still sympathise heavily with animal rights movements (though I do think PETA is slightly nutty in some ways), and find it quite the conundrum that animals are used in medical research etc.

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    Umm When did we start with religion? I missed that. Though I am an atheist so i may have glanced over it. You don't think this is offensive propaganda and is ok for children? http://www.petakids.com/pdf/rats_life_book_screen.pdf Now i admit these are really rather mild and makes it seem acceptable. I just think education on matter such as this are for the parents. I find it offensive to project Ideologies onto Elementary school children.

    I forget sometimes that most children now days have never gone fishing like I did with my Dad. Slipped eggs out from under a hen without getting pecked. Watched their Dad butcher chickens and help pluck the feathers. Not really to today's Childs benefit either. Since as you say it is rather naive not to know where your food comes from.

    I just feel that messages such as this should be restricted to 18+.
    Goodness, never meant to start in with any religious stuff, just was comparing one thing that is socially acceptable. Projected ideologies are part of growing up anywhere, you can't shield children from things. And I never insinuated that these comics should be taught in elementary schools, only that I would let my children have that kind of material. Hell, schools these days have enough trouble teaching children to read and write - they could never handle ethical issues also!

    I grew up going fishing with my grandparents, visited the dairy farm with the other set of grandparents, hell, my uncle is the local butcher. I grew up watching the full on half of a cow come into the store (minus head) on a hook. I saw it so many times I could still show you how to properly remove the spinal column from a cow (or calf, or lamb) and not mess up any cuts of meat to be butchered. (I'm not quite sure how this post made it down this direction... or where I'm going with this...)

    I suppose I'm sensitive to the idea that 18 years old implies some type of ready-for-the-world maturity when all the "real" ideas can be revealed. I could never imagine going to my mother and telling her that I wanted to be a vegetarian (at age 11 or 12) and her telling me, "Not until you're 18, honey."



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    I can't stand PETA. I'm all for the humane treatment of animals, absolutely, but PETA just does all kinds of damage to that message through their bizarre and frequently destructive antics. They dumped a truckload of pig manure into the parking lot of a diner that Bush was eating at while on the campaign trail in 2000--to protest what, I forget, but considering how much pollution of the groundwater and a public health hazard that pig poop is in the first place, then what exactly have they accomplished?

    It'd be like Greenpeace protesting global warming by setting fire to a tire dump or an oil pipeline.

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    *Vegan*

    I do not like PETA only because I think they overbearing. I don't think that scaring people into a life change is not the way to go... I also dont think that pushing your views on people like that is showing any respect for them. Extremeist viwes be it on animal rights/politics/religion - whatever make me mad because it makes the more sane people look crazy. I don't eat meat or animal products but I dont feel that it is my right to try and convince people to do the same. I know I've made posts on here about my diet and I've made suggestions about diets, but if someone doesnt want to do or consider the options I gave them it's ok and doesnt matter. PETA reminds me of Christians who think that you're going to hell no matter what... I will not watch PETA movies. I don't see the need to see animals being tortured to convince somebody to change their ways. I generally am of the opinion that if you can kill and prepare your own meat you have every right to eat meat. I also know that some people have a harder time not eating meat because of their blood type (and I dont remember which type it is right now). I mean really all that matters to me is that I know I am not contributing to what's goin on in the vids they produce. Ok not sure if that made sense and if it offended anyone I'm sorry... but yeah uhm... I need sleep, okbye!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    Yep, I forget where I've heard it, but I've heard of everything PETA does in that video before. I really thought that PETA was a bunch of idiots before, and still do. Back around Thanksgiving PETA called for people to stop eating turkey because they are "intelligent, creative animals." Are these not the same animals that drown in the rain because they are so stupid that they can't refrain from staring into the rain?
    That's false.


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