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    I ::heart:: credit cards. People who use them spend more freely than those who pay cash. Cash = budget. Credit = no limit. Why not reward the credit card payers?

    In my club, the credit card payers pay a whole lot more for the same products and services than their cash paying counterparts. Let's use a VIP hour w/$20 in drinks for an example.

    If a customer pays cash, this is how it goes:

    $400 dancer fee
    $60 room fee
    $20 to bouncer
    $20 drinks
    $5 tip to waitress
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    $505 total

    If a customer pays credit, this is usually how it goes:

    $480 dancer fee (w/surcharge)
    $50 tip to funny money girl
    $25 tip to bouncer (w/surcharge)
    $60 room fee
    $20 drinks
    $130 tip to waitress*
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    $765 total

    *There exists a hustle where the waitress gets 20% of the credit card total. The customer consents and everything, but I don't think he knows where the tip really goes.

    It just seems weird for a person to spend $260 more when he uses credit. I understand the surcharge, but the waitress tip is fucked up. Does your club work this way?

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    My club : 30 min room $200 gets room dancer and bottomless drinks.There are no waitresses ...upstairs bouncer/bartender does all.It's up to the girls to tip them.We don't have funny money.At one point in time our top earners got in a little trouble with mngmt because they hustled guys for big tips on credit.The guys would deny the charges .The card companies started to say they were gonna pull the clubs accounts.It all got worked out.

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    I worked in a few clubs where the club took a bigger cut of credit card dances so i hated it - the customer would think they were doing us a favour by spending on their credit card - not realising that out of that £500 they were spending i was getting just £380, whereas i would get the whole of it if they paid cash.

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    Almost every club works cc's like this. It's just another way to make more $$$. My club doesn't do a mandatory waitress tip, tho, that's up to the custy.

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    Credit cards dont work as fast as cash it isn't in the the owners bank acount until it fully processes...also credit is something that it trackable unlike cash....and of course the customer can always try to deny the charges... Simply stated cash is in hand credit is not.
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    Besides, customers can write their cc bill off their taxes if they claim they were entertaining customers. That, I think, is another reason why guys sign those high bills.

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    The biggest credit card rip off you have to watch for is when the guy signs for his funny money. Usually, there is a place for a tip. A guy will assume that tip is for the dancer. Sometimes....the bouncer will say it is for the dancer. The guy may leave a huge tip. It is not for the dancer.

    Make sure you tell your guys that if they want to tip you, they must either do it in cash, or get extra funny money, the tip on that paper is NOT for the dancer.

    I had a guy leave me a $100 tip for a $100 room, thinking it was for me. I wasn't payign attention, and didn't catch it till to late.
    Another time, the guy asked who got the tip, the bouncer said, the dancer does. He left a $100 tip, for $60 in funny money. I got that bouncer fired.

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    Yeah, it sucks but part of the reason they probably charge more is compensate for the jerks who do charge backs! When charge backs happen, the club loses money so they have to compensate for it. Just like the fact that stores have to charge a lot more for their products to make up for all the shoplifters.

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    Yeah, we used to not pay anything for funny money, but now we have to pay 10% on any funny money over 300. Still not too bad. I'm not sure about what the customer pays, I think 6% maybe???? It is most likely due to men disputing the charges.
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    The club needs to make a of profit for playing ATM machine for customers using credit cards. It needs to be worth the club's while to take on the hassle and the risk of chargebacks (which are common!). The customer needs to pay for HIS convenience and the HUGE INCONVENIENCE + money risk the club takes on by letting him use his card in this fashion. If the custy doesn't like it, there is an ATM or he can plan ahead and bring cash to the club! You still get your money and the customer agrees to everything, so it's all good.

    Trust me, a custy who can spend a $500 or more a pop at the club knows what's going on and what he's doing when he signs all that crap for the funny money, and they're OK with it. They aren't quite as dumb as we'd like to think.

    Don't sweat the waitress tip hustle. Why do you care what the customer tips the waitress or the funny money girl? It's kinda none of your business anyway. It's between the custy and them. Worry about your own hustle and money, let them worry about theirs. A custy who can tip the waitress and funny money girl in those amounts has PLENTY of money to buy another hour (or 2 or 3) in VIP with you (and tip you too!)

    I promise you, no custy ever gives the waitress his last $100. LOL! It's pretty silly for dancers to think the money a customer tips waitresses reduces the amount he has to spend on dancers! It just seems that way because the waitress tip is usually the last thing the customer does before he leaves.

    Just worry about how much of his money goes into YOUR wallet, don't worry about the silly things he does with the rest of it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Obenta View Post
    Trust me, a custy who can spend a $500 or more a pop at the club knows what's going on and what he's doing when he signs all that crap for the funny money, and they're OK with it. They aren't quite as dumb as we'd like to think.

    Don't sweat the waitress tip hustle. Why do you care what the customer tips the waitress or the funny money girl? It's kinda none of your business anyway. It's between the custy and them. Worry about your own hustle and money, let them worry about theirs. A custy who can tip the waitress and funny money girl in those amounts has PLENTY of money to buy another hour (or 2 or 3) in VIP with you (and tip you too!)

    I promise you, no custy ever gives the waitress his last $100. LOL! It's pretty silly for dancers to think the money a customer tips waitresses reduces the amount he has to spend on dancers! It just seems that way because the waitress tip is usually the last thing the customer does before he leaves.

    Just worry about how much of his money goes into YOUR wallet, don't worry about the silly things he does with the rest of it!

    Sorry, I don't agree. Often times they don't know who is actually getting the tip untill/unless I "school" them, and would definately not tip that much to the waitress or bouncer, especially ahead of time!

    You sound a bit condescending when you tell us not to worry about the silly little things, and to just worry about how much.....our wallet. It is my job to know that my customer is overall satified w/i reason, and that I'm damn sure getting the money that's appointed for me!

    All of them aren't rich. Heck, some of my regs. save up just to do a VIP w/me every so often!, and the money should go to the intended receipient...especially when its me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obenta View Post
    The club needs to make a of profit for playing ATM machine for customers using credit cards.
    Oh, and I'm about to go off. No they don't. It's a bar. They need to make money being a freaking bar. The credit card and ATM charges are sheer gouging - it ticks me off on a principled as well as a practical level. Guys fequently don't want to pay a surcharge. 10-20% is not a little. Guys that may be willing to pay $400 for a room, really might not want to pay $500 for NOTHING MORE. Like you said - they are not stupid. And people don't like being gouged.
    It needs to be worth the club's while to take on the hassle and the risk of chargebacks (which are common!).
    The club needs to take reasonable steps - same as every other establishment in North America - to ensure that the charges are good.
    The customer needs to pay for HIS convenience and the HUGE INCONVENIENCE + money risk the club takes on by letting him use his card in this fashion.
    This is silly. We're charging you in order for you to spend money. Every other business internalizes the "cost" of making it convenient and easy for people to spend money there. I don't walk into any other restaurant and get charged and extra 25% because I use a credit card and the ATM. It's not like this is special, patented, stripclub technology

    If the custy doesn't like it, there is an ATM or he can plan ahead and bring cash to the club! You still get your money and the customer agrees to everything, so it's all good.
    Or - the custy can not spend! He can come in with $100, and spend... just that, when he might otherwise have spent a whole lot more! Isn't that great for everyone! Seriously - if you make it hard for guy to spend money, they are less likely to do it. This is pretty intuitive. Clubs don't have a good grasp on this because managers are generally stupid and they are very accustomed to offloading these costs onto us (and we are apparently used to absorbing them). The club doesn't have to convince a guy to pay a 20% surcharge - we do, and the club collects it.

    Trust me, a custy who can spend a $500 or more a pop at the club knows what's going on and what he's doing when he signs all that crap for the funny money, and they're OK with it. They aren't quite as dumb as we'd like to think.
    I never thought they were dumb. I think we're losing money.

    Just worry about how much of his money goes into YOUR wallet, don't worry about the silly things he does with the rest of it!

    That is part of what we're worried about.
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    I understand that in some clubs, the dancer might have to make sure the customer *knows* the tip goes to the waitress or the bouncer and not to the dancer. In those types of clubs, yes you should definitely make sure the customer knows what's up and how to tip you! No reason for someone else to get YOUR TIP because the custy doesn't know!

    *However...in the case of the original poster, I've worked at the club she's referring to and I know exactly how things are done there. There is rarely any confusion at that club as to who the tip is for. It's very clear there what money is for who.

    Trust me, if the custy has a problem with paying and tipping all the extra, or if it will break his budget, he won't do it!

    The waitress tip isn't mandatory, nor is the tip for the funny money girl (though it is a strong hustle at that club) If he agrees to all of it, he IS satisfied (as you say, within reason). No one forces the custies to do anything! I've seen a waitress tell a custy, "Your total bill (including funny money) is $2000. If you'd like to tip 20%, that would be $400." (Like I said, strong hustle)...and the custy tips the waitress $40. The waitress tip hustle doesn't always work, but it works often enough for them that it's worth a try. All TIPS are OPTIONAL for the customer. Only the dancer's fee, room fee and funny money charge are mandatory. Like I said, the dancer gets her money either way.

    Those custies that you mention who ARE on a budget (and who only want to spend on YOU) don't get caught up in scenarios like the above. They know they're on a budget. They know how much they have to spend and they plan accordingly by either bringing cash or by taking all the additional costs (including tips for club staff) into consideration if they're paying by credit card. As I said before, they really aren't that dumb.

    Custies on a budget:
    If he saves $500 for a visit and knows VIP with you is going to cost him $400, and drinks will cost $50, cover charge $10, misc tips $40, then he's not going to give the waitress a $150 dollar tip, he'll give her the $40 (or less). People usually don't give tips they can't easily afford. These types of custies are "immune" to the funny money/waitress tip hustles.

    If he DOES give the waitress $150 tip, then he really had a lot more budgeted for his visit than you thought! (people don't give tips they can't afford) You can use that information to your advantage because next time, you'll know he DOES have more money, you just have to talk him out of it!

    If the custy tells you he can't do another VIP because he gave the waitress $150, that's just a (customer shit) line he's feeding you! He just doesn't want to do another VIP or buy more dances. The $150 tip isn't the reason. If he REALLY wanted to buy more dances, he would have tipped the waitress $50 (a great tip) and spent the rest on you.

    I hope everything I said makes sense? (sometimes I have trouble explaining what I mean)

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    The customer pays a premium for the convenience of not having to make a trip to the bank to get hundreds or thousands of dollars at midnight. I think that's a service (provided by the club) that's worth charging for. Not to mention, processing the charges costs money & the club takes on a pretty big risk of chargebacks.

    Chargebacks in the strip club business are a whole different animal. Other businesses are usually dealing with tangible goods, so chargebacks aren't as difficult for them. Strip Clubs are also up against the same stigma as the strippers who work in them. When the credit card company investigates a strip club chargeback, the board very often sides with the customer. (You know the drill, they think strippers/strip clubs are all shady so the customer MUST be telling the truth!)

    If the custy really didn't want to pay the extra fees, he'd bring cash to the club. Those custies who use the surcharge as an excuse for not doing a VIP or spending more money didn't want to spend more in the first place! It's a convenient excuse for them and a convenient excuse to tell the dancer! It's just customer shit!

    I do agree that the clubs should make it easier, not harder for the customers to spend money. Not everything the clubs do is best, but some things are worth worrying about and others aren't. (maybe they charge more than they should, but I don't care because I still get my money)

    A lot of the reasons why credit cards custies are handled (and charged all the fees) the way they are in clubs is the way credit card companies operate. If they'd let custies just get the money out of the ATM on their credit card via cash advance (without the daily limit) then club management would be out of it (other than an ATM machine fee) and everyone would be happier! (except club management, but we all agree they get plenty of money already)

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    If a custy has a problem with the fees, just tell him to get cash before he comes to the club. Tell him he can avoid the fees that way, and if he decides to spend more than what he brought with him, he'll be charging less on his card in the club, which = less fees.

    Let's say a custy brings in $500 (cash) to spend but decides he wants to spend $200 more...He puts the $200 on his credit card.
    $500 cash
    $200 funny money
    $20 funny money surcharge
    $10(?) funny money girl (optional)
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    $730 - no waitress tip (he already tipped her reasonably with cash)

    verses:
    $700 funny money
    $70 funny money surcharge
    $50 funny money girl tip (optional)
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    $820 - before tipping the waitress (on the total spent or just drink total)

    Custy saves money and loves you even more for your wisdom of suggesting he bring cash to avoid the fees!
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    You know what you'd hate more, SS? Working at a club that didn't take credit cards at all. I have seen it.

    The surcharges are stupid, but I do think at least a small one is warranted, say, 5%, because of the loss they take on the credit card fees. Also, keep in mind that clubs get screwed fairly consistently with CC disputes. So that 10% covers those.

    Now, what pisses me off is the double-dipping -- charging the customer and the dancer 10%. You know what, I would gladly eat that 10% conversion if they wouldn't hit the customer with it, potentially encouraging spending and not making him feel gouged. But giving it up when they've already done so to him is just pure greedy club bullshit.

    That being said, I have no idea if a club/bar has to process the cash advance charges in a different or more costly manner. Are there any owners or managers around who can possibly elaborate?

    << happy that my club gives out real cash when a customer uses a CC for an advance.

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    It's the double-dipping that gets me too! It's just greedy. I understand that they have to pay for the CC transaction (and with Amex in the UK it's about 8&#37;!!!), but when they charge us for it too it makes me sick. It makes the guys not want to pay for it, and the girls less likely to accept it.
    My club was charging the guys 20% and us 15%!!!!!!! We also couldn't cash in the funny money for a week cos they reckoned it took that long to clear. But recently decided not to charge us after all, and that we could cash them in at the end of the night. WOOP WOOP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obenta View Post
    *However...in the case of the original poster, I've worked at the club she's referring to and I know exactly how things are done there. There is rarely any confusion at that club as to who the tip is for. It's very clear there what money is for who.
    No, it isn't. The bouncer tip and funny money tip are made obvious. The waitress tip isn't. Most customers honestly believe it goes to the dancer. In most cases, they are led to believe it goes to the dancer. One waitress got caught trying to get funny money (a lot of it too!) in my name to get a fat tip. It's just gotten crazy, like a $50 tip isn't good enough for them.

    Susan, I worked in 2 clubs with cash advances on credit. It was FANTASTIC. There was a 10-15&#37; charge, but it was so easy for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obenta View Post
    If a custy has a problem with the fees, just tell him to get cash before he comes to the club. Tell him he can avoid the fees that way, and if he decides to spend more than what he brought with him, he'll be charging less on his card in the club, which = less fees.

    Custy saves money and loves you even more for your wisdom of suggesting he bring cash to avoid the fees!
    I noticed that many customers do this. They know the waitress hustle and probably have been burned by it. They tend to pay and tip me and the bouncer in cash and put the rest on the cc. The cc tab isn't, like, a grand, so the waitresses can't say, 20&#37; of your tab is XXX, the tip (usually stated generically as if it's for everyone or exclusively the dancer) would be XXX.

    Even with all this, I want the waitresses to make money. The cash customers tend to tip them 20-50 just for checking on them, which is cool. Some really good customers will give them several hundred in cash, to be generous and because they want to.

    You know, I really shouldn't be complaining. Every club with funny money somehow makes the customer pay about 30% more than he would have had he paid in cash.

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    Ooooh, speaking of double dipping:

    In Sydney they sell $12 in tips for $20! Yeah, and you can only tip with those dollars or they kick you out. THEN when a girl turns them in she 1: doesn't get them at ALL if she made less than $200 for the night and 2: only gets half the money.

    So in what world does a $20 tip = $6?! In the stripping world.

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    The customer pays a premium for the convenience of not having to make a trip to the bank to get hundreds or thousands of dollars at midnight. I think that's a service (provided by the club) that's worth charging for. Not to mention, processing the charges costs money & the club takes on a pretty big risk of chargeback
    That would make a lot more sense if in every other industry they weren't absorbing the cost. In every other industry they make it EASY for the customer to spend money, not harder. The reason they don't in strip clubs is because the club doesn't have to convince them to pay it - we do. So essentially we put in the work and the club collects.

    Chargebacks in the strip club business are a whole different animal. Other businesses are usually dealing with tangible goods, so chargebacks aren't as difficult for them. Strip Clubs are also up against the same stigma as the strippers who work in them. When the credit card company investigates a strip club chargeback, the board very often sides with the customer. (You know the drill, they think strippers/strip clubs are all shady so the customer MUST be telling the truth!)
    That's just... not true. Credit cards are used for everything, including services. In any other place - including other bars - the establishment is expected to take reasonable precautions to ensure the charge is good. In strip clubs they can do it too.

    If the custy really didn't want to pay the extra fees, he'd bring cash to the club. Those custies who use the surcharge as an excuse for not doing a VIP or spending more money didn't want to spend more in the first place! It's a convenient excuse for them and a convenient excuse to tell the dancer! It's just customer shit!
    Oh gosh. Seriously? You seriously don't think that customers might spend more than what they have on them? You seriously don't think hefty surcharges are actively discouraging to them? No, honey, customer shit is when they tell you that you're too pretty to get a dance from. Refusing to pay $100 into the ether - that is a perfectly reasonable decision. You are mistaken - like, this is not an issue of opinion. If your club eliminated surcharges, your income would go up.

    I do agree that the clubs should make it easier, not harder for the customers to spend money. Not everything the clubs do is best, but some things are worth worrying about and others aren't. (maybe they charge more than they should, but I don't care because I still get my money)
    Or you underestimate how much you're losing. And I do care - like I said, I don't like gouging. The gouging is PART of why strippers and strip clubs have a shady reputation.

    If a custy has a problem with the fees, just tell him to get cash before he comes to the club. Tell him he can avoid the fees that way, and if he decides to spend more than what he brought with him, he'll be charging less on his card in the club, which = less fees.
    Yeah - but again, that is not accounting for the impulse buy, it's not accounting for unplanned trips, it is not accounting for the fact that I am a stellar sales person on whom the customer may spend more than what he planned, etc. I mean the same reasons EVERY OTHER BUSINESS make it easy for them to spend money - I mean why do you think bars put in cash machines, Interac machines, credit card machines, etc? In Starbucks they have that new one, that I don't know what it is called. It's like interac, but you have no code - you just swipe? You keep it like you keep money in your wallet - if it's stolen you're screwed, but you're not meant to keep hundreds of dollars on it? Whatever that is. They do it because having them there means that people spend more money. Like making it easy and convenient for people to spend money = they spend more of it. Debating that is seriously a waste of time.
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    Jenny, you have good points, but I don't agree on everything you've said.

    I guess I just have a different opinion than you (and perhaps some others) on customers paying for the convenience of accessing hundreds or thousands of dollars from their account at midnight on a Saturday night to spend on dancers. I think it is one hell of a convenience and I think customers should pay for it. Just like a gallon of milk costs $4.79 at the convenience store at midnight, but only costs $3.00 at the regular grocery store during the day. I may not like paying the extra, but I understand I'm paying for the convenience, and I think most custies understand this too.

    As far as chargebacks go, I've been in club management and I've written reports and I've been interviewed by the credit card fraud boards when a chargeback has hit the club. It is very difficult to get the credit card companies to side with the club and the dancers. They would rather believe their "upstanding citizen victim" credit card holder than the "sleazy stripper and sleazy strip club". It's just easier for them. I've also been in other industries and handled disputed charges and I'm telling you, there is no comparison! It is just not the same. It's like some alternate universe or something. I guess you'd just have to experience it to believe it. It's unreal the customer bullshit that the credit card companies will believe! They also have a hard time understanding the concept of a customer paying $2000 to a dancer for "her time in VIP". Also, in most other industries, the customer usually can't say he was drinking when he purchased the services.

    We'll just have to agree to disagree on some stuff. I'm a firm believer than custies don't spend their last dime in strip clubs, regardless of what they tell or imply to the dancers. I know that no matter how much a custy spends, he had at least 50% more available (and willing to spend) at minimum. Custies are well aware of the added fees and some of them are easy to avoid. I just do not believe that a 10% increase ($20 on $200) makes a difference in "yes" or "no".. I believe it's just an excuse (customer shit). Strip clubbing isn't really an activity for those on a tight budget. Others are free to disagree, and I understand that.

    One thing I totally hate though (and I think you'll agree) is when clubs charge the dancers a cut to "change in" their funny money to cash! And I think time limits (some clubs only give you one day!) to change funny money to cash is a load of shit! The clubs already make plenty off the customers in those transactions, charging the dancers too is beyond greed IMO!

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    Oh yes, I'm reviving this thread.

    My club has decided to add a 15&#37; fee for each funny money transaction. Then the club double dips and charges the dancers 15% when they cash in funny money. Wow, the club is grossing 30% just for having a credit card machine.

    The dancers, being greedy little girls we are, will pass the burden of the funny money conversion to the customers. An hour goes for $400. We want that $400 so we charge the customer $475. Then the club charges 15% on top of that. The total amount the customer is charged is about $550.

    Oh, and then there's the room fee ($70).

    Keep in mind that I don't work in a fancy shmancy club like PEC where doing a room for $600+/hour is reasonable.

    It's at the point where customers are highly encouraged to use cash. But, the 2 ATMs the club has are typically out of order lol. If one is is working, a customer is allowed to take out only $200 at a time with a $7 transaction fee.

    This is getting ridiculous.

    My house fee is $90.

    Dances are $10.

    The DJ, waitresses, and other employees pay a house too. The DJ pays half his tips.

    In the end, the customers will get screwed.

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    Sounds like they're either trying to make up for some lost revenue or just getting too greedy. That stinks, because such greed will run off business. They can only charge so much before customers start going elsewhere...


    On the other hand, maybe it's just a reaction to their knowledge of what many girls are making the guys spend, and wanting a bigger cut of it. I mean, I know I always made the guys tip the staff more than the numbers you posted in your OP, for example. And anytime I could get more than the $400/hr, I did. And we know some girls did the same, or more.

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    On the other hand, maybe it's just a reaction to their knowledge of what many girls are making the guys spend, and wanting a bigger cut of it.
    Yep. I don't like it because the prices will start to become obscene and customers will take their business to that other club. That Other Club will run you about $700/hour (this includes all tips and the $100 tip to the dancer) on a credit card. The customer sees "value" in it as the club is so FANCY and upfront about reasonable charges. Also, their ATMs always work.

    My customers were not happy with the confusing surprise surcharges when I worked last night. They have the money. If they can afford $500 for the dancer, they can damn well afford the extra $150 credit card "penalty", but they don't like feeling ripped off. An extra 30%? WTF, they say.

    That Other Club has virtually no tip out so the $400/hour is what a dancer would WALK with. No double dipping on funny money. When I was there, I sold on average 2.5 hours per 6-hour shift. I had maybe 2 shifts when I didn't sell a single hour.

    When the money dries up where I am, at least I have a place to go.

    One thing I hate about being a dancer is that I can't get too comfortable anywhere. One financial decision by the club and I have to shake my ass somewhere else.

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    Actually, you should love that you have the option to shake your ass somewhere else! What would truly suck would be having to stick with a system that cut into your cash.

    So is this like the annual "let's screw with all the dancers" thing? I say set it up so your custy is headed to the funny money booth, then hears about the surcharge, raises hell, says "Fuck it! I'm gonna pay with cash!" of course you have to set it up with one who has cash or on a night when the ATMs aren't fucked up . . . but it would be great if every girl could get someone to do this. Dry up their stream a bit so to speak.

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