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    It's official--he's been cancelled!!! I guess now he's the nappy headed ho!
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    Damn, I wonder how Howard Stern is going to dance on this grave.

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    yea.. wow.. i really think canceling him, probably ruining his career, over a comment said strictly for shock is kinda unfair. i feel like if you dont like what he's saying, like howard stern, dont listen. you have the ability to turn the channel, and it's not like we were forced to listen.

    im sure he feels stupid and in fact i saw his apology and was impressed, but i thnk this is going way too far. but i *personally* would never call someone a nappy headed ho. i think ho in general on air was too far, forgetting the nappy headed part. a suspension would have served the purpose as punishment, imo.

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    Cancelled by both CBS radio and MSNBC.

    Imus likely will re-emerge on satellite radio with that other scum Stern, though Stern is more fun.
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    On balance, I think it was the right thing to do. The Rutgers women were NOT public figures and did not deserve any kind of negative comment in any way shape or form. And what Imus said was just too far over the line on too many levels. I've made mistakes and had to pay for them. Haven't we all ? What's so special about Imus ? Why should he be immune from paying the price for his own lack of good judgment and self-control ?

    I'd like to see Fox apply a similar standard and keep Coulter off the air. I'd like to see ABC call Rosie on the carpet. I'd like everyone in public forums to work on refining the "culture" instead of coarsening it. Most of all I want to see Sharpton have to live where the bar has now been set in his own conduct and rhetoric.

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    Proving that free speech isn't free...

    Anyway, I bet Stern isn't too happy. Now Imus will go to satellite radio too and they will be in competition again. Whatever, they're both assholes. I haven't listened to Stern in about ten years and I never liked Imus.

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    I am pleasantly pleased...







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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy68 View Post
    ...i really think canceling him, probably ruining his career, over a comment said strictly for shock is kinda unfair. i feel like if you dont like what he's saying, like howard stern, dont listen. you have the ability to turn the channel, and it's not like we were forced to listen.
    I feel this way on a ton of issues. He's got a right to what he wants to say. And I DON'T like what he said, and I'll talk shit on him all I want about his comments .. but I wouldn't recommend terminating his position. He's got right to speak his mind, just like the rest of us.

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    Of course the women on the Rutgers team are public figures. I mean, you don't hear Imus calling me a nappy-headed ho because I am not on TV... those women are. Even if they were politicians or actresses or whatever I don't see where they would have deserved it more. Heck, Imus could have called me a "ho" and I wouldn't be "scarred for life" like some of these gals claim to be.

    Wasn't Imus always like this? I heard some other dude on TV (something Bennet? I'd never heard of him before) said all black babies should be aborted and his big butt is still on the air! What kind of crap is that?

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    It's nice to know a Black guy can call a woman a "prostitute" on national TV with no national outrage.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtykDo9b6-E

    Re: Imus -- I don't feel bad for his firing. If you say something that stupid, there are repercussions. That's that. If improper conduct is punishable by termination, so be it. Imus meant nothing to me before all this. Doesn't mean anything to me now.

    That said, I think nothing was truly resolved by the firing, other than some visceral sense of righteousness. Misogyny is out there, and it's terrible. However, putting a mute button on it doesn't exactly reform such attitudes.

    Are we really tackling the bigger problem, people?

    (BTW, I'm sure I'm not completely reaching here in believing because it happened on FOX NEWS, it wasn't considered -real- TV.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    Proving that free speech isn't free...
    Uh, it's not. The first ammendmant only applies in public places, like a park. Nothing privately owned is affected. Someone walks into my house and calls some college chicks nappy ho's he can screech his free speech rights all he wants... as he's thrown out my door. No one can spout KKK crap in your local Denny's without being tossed on his ass or the cops called, either. And if you fuck up on the air, you can get fired. Imus got what he deserved.

    Frankly, i'm more offended by the "Ho" comment than anything else. I don't like that he called them nappy headed, but the ho part gets at me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    Proving that free speech isn't free...
    He can say anything he wants, but the folks that employ him are not required to do so if they feel he doesn't represent the image they want to be associated with.

    "Free speech" as a concept applies only to governmental influence on speech (generally speaking), as MadCap noted. He was working for a private company, and just as is the case with any other private employer, if they don't like what he does, says, etc., they have every right to toss him out. They didn't restrict his speech at all.

    EDIT: Keep in mind this sure isn't the first time Imus has said something stupid. This just happened to be the straw that broke the camel's back.

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    It just seems to me that Imus was doing what he's been paid to do for decades. He's a hateful, bigoted shock jock and that's what his audience tunes in for. If you don't like that stuff, don't listen to Imus; I don't.

    Just seems like people need to grow a backbone these days. Used to be that somebody was an asshole and you said, "Wow, what an asshole," and changed the channel. Now you break down in tears and claim that an inappropriate comment has completely crippled you and destroyed your life.

    I dunno about you, but I've been called worse than "nappy-headed ho" in my day. It wasn't on the air, but I've been called worse. Guess what, I survived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    I dunno about you, but I've been called worse than "nappy-headed ho" in my day. It wasn't on the air, but I've been called worse. Guess what, I survived.
    Yea, I too have survived after hearing worse but you know what, it still stays with me. It's not something like this that can just roll off my back. I will NEVER forget it, no matter how hard I try.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Melvis View Post
    It's nice to know a Black guy can call a woman a "prostitute" on national TV with no national outrage.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtykDo9b6-E
    Ew, I couldn't even finish watching that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    It just seems to me that Imus was doing what he's been paid to do for decades. He's a hateful, bigoted shock jock and that's what his audience tunes in for. If you don't like that stuff, don't listen to Imus; I don't.
    It is important to keep in mind that one of the (if not "the") primary reasons he's being ditched is business. With many of the sponsors and advertisers jumping ship, the money the broadcasters make from his show is going away, so there's no business reason to keep him on. I doubt that he'd have been fired outright if the sponsors had not started pulling their ads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    It just seems to me that Imus was doing what he's been paid to do for decades. He's a hateful, bigoted shock jock and that's what his audience tunes in for. If you don't like that stuff, don't listen to Imus; I don't.

    Just seems like people need to grow a backbone these days. Used to be that somebody was an asshole and you said, "Wow, what an asshole," and changed the channel. Now you break down in tears and claim that an inappropriate comment has completely crippled you and destroyed your life.

    I dunno about you, but I've been called worse than "nappy-headed ho" in my day. It wasn't on the air, but I've been called worse. Guess what, I survived.

    I'm sorry, Yek, but if someone who was reviewing your film (on radio or in print) decided to call you, say, "a fat money-grubbing jew bitch"--based on absolutely nothing except the fact that they'd heard you were Jewish,
    I think you'd be outraged--and rightfully so. I'd think you would have a perfect right--maybe even an obligation--to demand a public apology. I would hope that you would publicly take that person to task, rather than shrugging it off because you "have a backbone" or "could change the channel."

    This country has a staggeringly horrific history of mistreating black people--in the worst possible ways that you could possibly mistreat fellow human beings. Yes, most of the worst stuff happened in the past--but not that far in the past.

    I've heard that in Germany, it's practically illegal to even whisper the word "Nazi." People are jumpy about it, because of the horrific history there. And rightfully so, in my estimation.

    In this country, we get jumpy over issues of race--particularly when the issues involve black-white relations. It's because of the overwhelmingly shameful history here. Maybe you don't get it, but it makes sense to me.
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    Depends who said it. If it was Roger Ebert, I'd be pissed off and demand a correction on the air. If it was some jackass like Don Imus or Howard Stern, meh, that's what they do. I don't see what an apology would accomplish; I think we as a society put way too much stock in these "apologies" that are now cropping up everywhere. What are they for? What good do they do?

    I know how Germany's lack of free speech is, and I disagree with it. As a Jewish woman, I'd rather keep Nazi sympathizers and other bigots out in the open where we can see them. Push them underground and all they do is fester and grow. Much better to be able to let them spout off so we have the opportunity to ridicule them and correct their misinformation.

    Anyway, I DO get it. I just think we've become overly sensitive. It's gotten to the point where parents are being sued over playground taunts; it's completely out of hand, and I'm tired of it. Sticks and stones may break my bones but names are just running off at the mouth.

    Oh, and for the record, I agree that if sponsors start pulling ads then a station should fire the DJ for business sense. I just don't agree with the public outcry that these women's lives have been completely destroyed because some asshole made a racist/sexist remark. If that's really all it takes to ruin your life, then you're too delicate for the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    Anyway, I DO get it. I just think we've become overly sensitive. It's gotten to the point where parents are being sued over playground taunts
    Really?? Some people have no shame!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    Proving that free speech isn't free...

    Anyway, I bet Stern isn't too happy. Now Imus will go to satellite radio too and they will be in competition again. Whatever, they're both assholes. I haven't listened to Stern in about ten years and I never liked Imus.
    it's not about free speech. It's about business. And if advertisers are jumping ship, then what are they going to do? The proof that this is what it's about is that because you know a small time DJ would never get cancelled for it.

    eta: oh, I see someone already mentioned this, but it's basically what it's about. You're making this into a social/political issue. National broadcasters know what they can and can't say (hello, Rush Limbaugh!) and he should have known better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy68 View Post
    yea.. wow.. i really think canceling him, probably ruining his career, over a comment said strictly for shock is kinda unfair. i feel like if you dont like what he's saying, like howard stern, dont listen. you have the ability to turn the channel, and it's not like we were forced to listen.
    Well - that's what happened. That's why he was canceled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    It just seems to me that Imus was doing what he's been paid to do for decades. He's a hateful, bigoted shock jock and that's what his audience tunes in for. If you don't like that stuff, don't listen to Imus; I don't.
    Well - over decades people's tastes change. In this decade, it may be that the listeners and hence the advertisers don't really want to hear certain kinds of hateful bigoted commentary. I mean - it's not like he was legislated off the air is it? Are we saying that there is something wrong with his listeners because they don't want to hear it? Or that there is something wrong with the advertisers because they don't want to sponsor it? What's the issue here?
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    Well I imagine if I said this at work I would get fired so why is he any different . I know he is a shock jock and all but cmon grow up dude . I still don't even understand why he said it .

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    Wow. I've never listened to Imus but as I put his comment in a different scenario, as if I were to say that in front of a potential customer of the company I work for, and potentially loose a sale over it, I can understand why he was fired. But in my mind, the "ho" part would be the bad word.

    HOWEVER, I am am now scared to death to talk, because I never knew "nappy headed" was a racial slur. I've always thought it was a type of hair lol. Several of my relatives have really course hair with really tight curls, and my grandma used to talk about how my cousin should keep her hair short because it took an hour to comb the tangles out because it was so "nappy". And we're not black. Makes me wonder what other words I've casually used that could be considered racist.

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    I don't think it's a racial slur... But he was calling them that BECAUSE they (or, the majority of them?) were black... and it's not really a NICE word.
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