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    Hypothetically, can a large club survive with extras girls being accepted as "those are the girls that do extras" and other girls can make as much or more without doing it? Plus, is there such a thing as a high volume club (like butt to nut crowded) in the US that is clean?

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    There are extras girls at damn near every strip club there is, whether they do it OTC or in the club. I don't believe in ANY strip club being 100% clean.

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    Yes, you can be clean girl who makes just as much $$$ as most extras girls. But you're going to have to be a cut throat hustler. Sometimes custys will get pissed off of course because they hand you the same $$$ they would have handed the "extras" girls expecting something they won't recieve. When it comes to working in a club like that, if the customer leaves unhappy then I did my job. lol.
    My first club was like that (New Century in SF), I'm glad I no longer have to deal with the BS that comes from working in that kind of environment. But working in that kind of club first made working and hustling at every other club after that a piece of cake. I can't stand that club, but I learned alot there.
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    I have worked, and do work at the largest strip club in the world.
    Yes, we have girls who do extras. Yeah..they are the "extra girls" and Yes, I make as much or more than them. I have something they dont have.

    You can only suck a dick for so long before its over. But you can have a conversation and good company all night long.

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    Well said kaylinn.

    I work in a club that is quite high volume on the weekends. And I understand that most of ATL is very high volume, clean clubs, with little contact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lola Rose View Post
    Well said kaylinn.

    I work in a club that is quite high volume on the weekends. And I understand that most of ATL is very high volume, clean clubs, with little contact.
    No, unfortunately, there's extras going on in ATL as well. Some worse in other clubs and also worse depending on what part of the club you're in. That's why I work alone and my VIP's are me and the customer (most of the time a new customer). It sucks but I think there's extras going on everywhere just worse in some places more than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyPOV View Post
    Hypothetically, can a large club survive with extras girls being accepted as "those are the girls that do extras" and other girls can make as much or more without doing it? Plus, is there such a thing as a high volume club (like butt to nut crowded) in the US that is clean?
    Yes, and yes.

    But it's really, really hard on most clean dancers to work in the same club with a lot of extras. Most women simply cannot handle it, and I don't blame them a bit. It takes real strength to deal with this.

    My club is like the clubs I worked at in Daytona during big special events, but every weekend, most thursdays, and about half the tuesdays. It's crowded, it's high-energy all the way, and it's very clean--no grinding allowed. Obviously that rules out the BJs and fucking that was going on at my last club, lol...
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    Well Im not in the Us but Im chimeing in anyway, lol.
    Ive come to the same conclusion. Ive thought that I worked in a couple of clean clubs before, but found out that some of the girls worked after hours. One time I only found out because I have a blind friend who sometimes used to come into my club to have a beer with me. He had exceptionally good hearing and told me about a conversation he could hear
    Much better than working in a club where girls are blatently doing extras though!


    Quote Originally Posted by LuckiCharm View Post
    There are extras girls at damn near every strip club there is, whether they do it OTC or in the club. I don't believe in ANY strip club being 100% clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylinn View Post
    You can only suck a dick for so long before its over. But you can have a conversation and good company all night long.
    I think that's partly related to what I was going to say. Some girls are genuinely fun to hang around all night. They have great personalities and can sell a fantasy. It's fun for him.

    But some girls are not fantasy girls and are pretty dull. They aren't interesting, probably because they don't know how to talk or are so fucked up that they aren't even fun anymore. What else is there to sell? Reality.

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    I think its hypothetically possible in a larger club that attracts a diverse crowd. my club brings in all sorts of guys, some looking for extras of the worst kind and others who really just want to have fun with a classy girl and are repelled by trashy extras girls. The fact that it's a gown club in an upper middle class neighborhood helps- a lot of married men want to have a little titillation without the guilt of "cheating" on their wives. A smart, clean girl can make very good money by cherry picking these guys and avoiding the obnoxious john wannabees.




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    The girls who are real attractive AND fun to be with need not do extras in the club. Some might, but in my experience it is rare; in fact I've only ran into one. If your club has 'extras' gals, you will have to work harder and know how to handle the competition, but you willl likely get better customers in the long run. Which means you can compete money-wise, though to a large extent it depends on the clientele your club draws from, reputation etc.

    Though I've met many who clicked with me, only one attractive, fun girl went further than usual (I didn't even ask). Who knows why? Did she do extras with many others? Who knows, but probably so. Wish I had lived in that town so I could have learned more about her.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Well, as long as the subject is "social systems," let me offer my constructs along that line. There's an element of what's called "critical mass" to this issue, regardless of club size. To oversimplify, if the extras constitute a small portion of the whole, then the club is relatively "clean." If the extras become prominent enough within the club to tip the scale (where that percentage point lies, I dunno), critical mass of extras is achieved and the "clean" girls have a harder time surviving because the clientele becomes increasingly saturated with guys who insist upon extras, and then the "clean" girls leave. In other words, it's a downward spiral. (Or an upward spiral if you're the raincoater type.)

    Also at issue is how the club is set up and supervised. Dark corners and isolation away from watchful eyes promote an increased level of extras. If there's a bordello area.. er, I mean champagne rooms with total privacy, you're likely to have more extras going on in there. However, sometimes that creates a situation in which the champagne level of service doesn't automatically propogate into the other areas of the club. I mean, theoretically from a business perspective, extras ought to cost extra, not be undercutting the non-extras. If a substantial majority of dancers and the customs of the club so dictate, extras can run as an undercurrent without becoming overtly rampant.

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    Really lol $10 bj shouldnt be less than that $20 lap dance. At least charge a hellava lot for it. Shoot at that price why not give out coupons or punch cards? Sheesh

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    It seems to me that busier clubs are actually cleaner, since a) if it's crowded, there are more eyes watching and fewer dark, private corners where extras can happen and b) if there are lots of customers, then probably there is more money flowing, and fewer girls are motivated to go the, er, extra mile. I've seen waaaay dirter stuff on a Tuesday afternoon or a Sunday evening than at peak times on Friday and Saturday night.

    I think non-extras girls can make as much or more than extras girls, unless the club is one where extras are absolutely expected and customers won't buy a dance without them. In cleaner clubs, non-extras girls can do just fine, because there will be plenty of customers who aren't even looking for a dirty dance. My club has extras girls, but they aren't particularly attractive or good hustlers. Think about it -- if they were attractive and/or good hustlers, why would they have to do extras? It seems to me the extras girls at my club do extras just to make it up to the earnings level that non-extras girls are already at. And in the instances I'm thinking of, those girls don't even maximize whatever "edge" the extras give them; they basically work until they have enough money to score, then go home and get high.

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