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    okay, so ive been away from the world of stripperweb for a week, since i was in CA and tahoe, and didnt go on the computer much! missed it though!

    since i was taking a flight, i bought the may issue of cosmo magazine.

    i saw an article in there, called "A porn magazine editor tells all"

    Basically about some chick who writes for fashion/beauty, got a call to be an editor for a big name porn magazine. some of her worries before deciding to do it were "did i agree with the concept of porn enough to work there?" "was it a bad career move?" but since it was better pay, she went for it.

    She was surprized about the models signing autographs topless! (oh my! boobs, NO! lol)

    She says the most shocking thing qwas when a model came to her desk, and asked if her labia looked lopsided. she says, before she could answer, she had already pulled down her skirt. (oh my - a naked pussy! pff, its nothing she aint seen before! besides, we see naked-ness ALL the time haha)

    SHe had to interview them and ask them questions to go along with their pictures, such as their hometown, hobbies and favorite sex positions.
    but she admits wanting to REALLY ask, "why are you doing this? what do your parents think? don't you want something more for yourself?"

    (people also ask these same kind of questions if yer a stripper. i could answer em...1. the money and while your young, make the most while u got. its something to save alot of money with if u dont have a degree. id rahter make more money doing it while im going to college, instead of struggling, working at the mall or something. 2. my parents dont know. alot of girls paren'ts dont know. ha. 3. yeah later, thats why im going to college. u think im going to be doing this when im 50? but for right now, i can say it aint bad. )

    She said the photographers told a "harsher" reality. that some of the girls were high or drunk during photoshoots. (well i couldnt be drunk if i went to a photoshoot..cuz i turn red as a lobster after a few shots! lol.)

    She writes that after working there a year, she quit. she says she was "tired of working in a seedy,sex saturated enviroment."

    she concludes, "i wish i learned a positve lesson that disproved my previous judgement about the women who posed for these magazines, but i still think they arent moving in the right direction."

    THEN, at the bottom of the page, it writes "the porn power trip"
    and undernneath thagt bold title, says "Some strippers and porn models may act like they are leveraging their female wiles, but are they? their naked truth revealed." (ok, how did strippers come apart of this? lol. and how do THEY know the naked truth? based on their opinons? lol)

    these are the "reasons"

    *nude women can be powerful or powerless, depending on thier motivation and the pain or pleasure they devrive from the experience.

    * some of these women have been sexually abused as children and may "end up" stripping to try to reclaim their lost power. (thats not true for every girl...and oh, "end up?" how horiable..ha)

    *There are some women who take their clothes off for a living who a living who are driven by past abuse. some of those revisit the revulsion they experienced as victims, yet they're pardoxically drawn to it. they'll often use drugs or alachol to numb those reawakend motions. (wow alot of hard vocab in here for me! lol.)

    [ So, to say my opinon about this article, yes, of course, stripping and porn isnt always glamours..alot of bad stories. but alot of us on here know that isnt ALWAYS the case. all the girls i know, including myself do this to save money, go to college, and dont see it as degrading themselves. (more like the men, right?) but seriously, i dont really mind this article, with its assumptions and shocking "truths". im sort of glad that this article didn't say "taking yoour clothes off for money is the easier job. you make 3-4,000 a night! its a glamours job! so check out your local clubs now and join the getting naked for money TRAIN!"

    because then of course, that isnt the truth either. and it could result in having this industry not that specail anymore. just a bunch of chicks who thiink this job is like totaly nothing and easy then it will become just some stupid trend. bleh. stripping is suposed to be specail and mysterious...i think it takes a different and specail kind of woman to be in this industry. i guess i just dont want the media to exploit this business, more than they do now. i mean alot of good thangs got exploited and died off, thanks to the media. ]

    anyways excuse this long thread. haha. jsut felt like discussing it. and would like to know your opinons too, hehe. i hope there isnt already a thread about this...lol. i loooked and i didnt see any.
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    bottom line is that what was once 'show business' continues to devolve into 'sex business' from a financial standpoint. From a public perception standpoint, what were once 'exotic entertainers' are now perceived as little more than very well paid drugged out whores. IMHO such articles do a huge dis-service to dancers on several levels - not the least of which is creating a public impression (in the minds of club customers, jury members, and the IRS for example) that all dancers earn $2,000 a night by selling 'sex' !

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    ^^^ True that!! huge dis-service!!

    "nude women can be powerful or powerless, depending on thier motivation and the pain or pleasure they devrive from the experience."

    I think that is one of the most important points. That's just silly to assume that all strippers are like all porn stars and that all porn stars are even alike... and to have an article written by someone who was biased about a job to begin with and never felt comfortable in the job and left after A YEAR (that is a good deal of time to be in a job you hate) What are you expecting to have as an article?

    I just wanted to point out that you could say the same thing about her as a stripper who hates her job. She took this job as an editor for the money not the job. She was in the feild for long enough to get fed up with it and quit, or make either the money and get out and do what she wants. Sound familiar to anyone? I know girls who've done that. That woman was just too insecure about herself... maybe. Just my two cents.
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    How did they know that when I was trying to decide how to pay for college, what kind of job I should get, my exact thoughts were....Well....I WAS abused as a child...so.....I know, I'll be a stripper! That will erase history! It will be great! Yay. The money is just an extra advantage, my real reason is because everytime I take my top off I feel a little bit better about shit that happened a bajillion years ago. Yep. Duh.

    These people are such idiots. I swear I'm running outta damn magazines, I've already boycotted like seven for this reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PookaShell View Post
    How did they know that when I was trying to decide how to pay for college, what kind of job I should get, my exact thoughts were....Well....I WAS abused as a child...so.....I know, I'll be a stripper! That will erase history! It will be great! Yay. The money is just an extra advantage, my real reason is because everytime I take my top off I feel a little bit better about shit that happened a bajillion years ago. Yep. Duh.

    These people are such idiots. I swear I'm running outta damn magazines, I've already boycotted like seven for this reason.
    ha yeah. alot of the magazines are stupid. but eh i dont really care...they can have their opinons. i dont care if girls who read cosmo think strippers/porn stars are weird and that the business is terriable...more money for us lol
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    The bottom line is, the magazines are targeting mostly non-strippers because let's face it, there's more non-strippers than actual strippers out there. So the non-strippers are going to buy this and this kinda crap is what sells. To make the stripper look bad and to make all the housewives and girls, etc. feel better and to look down on us for being "stripper whores" so when their husband/boyfriend goes to a SC they can rationalize it and blame it on us and not them. I actually feel sorry for all those naive, gullible women out there that don't have a clue what many men are really like! I'm glad dancing has given me the opportunity to really open my eyes and learn from all this.

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    I like how she's just THE expert since she was an editor for a porn magazine for awhile. (Btw, if the sight of T&A offends you, don't work for a porn magazine, you friggin' idiot!) Not only is she THE expert, but she has the ability to accurately lump whatever women she came across into one person... and then throw strippers into it, too.

    Hey, you guys. I worked in a restaurant! I'm such a fucking expert now that I'm going to write a magazine on how to run a restaurant correctly. You guys should read it if you REALLY want to know the truth about how it's done.
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    This reminds me...I had almost forgotten why I loathe people so much...now I remember.

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    (for those who dont know this is Cameronfl...I had to create a new account to be able to post until Pryce fixes mine)

    This article was almost laughable it was so ridiculous. It's obviously fake too.First...she was shocked at seeing naked women IN A PORN STUDIO?? Was she that mentally handicapped??? Second...everything stopped in the office when the models walked in?? So they could sign autographs with the male staff?? Ok..since there are models in and out all day every day...how did they ever get anything done??
    Then she talks about being editor...but wait..she re-touched photos? She wrote copy? She interviewed the models? Hmmm...so she was editor, art director, reporter,copywriter....however did she find time to sleep? I guess she had to do all this while all the male staff was spending all their time posing with topless models and getting autographs.
    ANd the male photog was "disappointed" that the girls only tuned on the "porn charm" while the camera was rolling?? WTF??? Ummm..it's called ACTING honey. Did he think it was real?? Does he also think that when the cameras stop Brendon Frasier keeps chasing Imhotep??(I've got The Mummy playing on TV...)

    This was so fake that it is obvious that is was a shallow attempt to just degrade the adult industry.

    I worte to Cosmo thanking them for being yet ANOTHER "womens' magazine reduced to pandering to the lowest common denomonator of the moral minority just to sell magazines. And that I hoped that someday a mag would have the guts to write an HONEST piece about the adult industry. But I wont hold my breath....

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    goddamn it.

    the #1 thing that pissed me off about these kind of statements is this:

    almost 1/2 of all women have been sexualy abused. about 40%. are these people telling me that 40% of the nations women are strippers? NO. many of them are doctors, laywers, etc. you name it. being sexualy abused doesn't make you a stripper and it doesn't mean you always become a fucked up drug addict who can't manage her own life. also, the drug thing. sure, a lot of strippers are on drugs, but so are a lot of people in this country PERIOD. i've known plenty of professionals who are fucking drugged out on the weekends or who drink during "breaks" at work. fuck, you know how many CEOs/lawyers/etc i've seen coked out of their minds in the club?

    strippers are an easy target. i think one of the reasons for that, is that the stripping "lifestyle" can and does attract some girls who are into drugs/prostitution etc. but that has nothing to do with "all" of us. you don't have to be a fucked up drug addict to strip, nor does stripping make you so.

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    * Without frigid women who worry too much about what others think of them (i.e. the average Cosmo reader) sex workers would be unable to make a living. We give men what they're not getting elsewhere often...

    * I started dancing out of financial need & the fact my measurements were 36-25-34. I'll never forget the gasp of pleasure and amazement I heard from the crowd when I stepped onstage for my first audition. But baby, that power doesn't last forever...

    * It's true that there are many messed-up girls in the sex business. But you only hear about them because it's an easy potshot. No one wants to hear about the pretty female paramedic addicted to meth or the cute college student that gets blown on coke every weekend & blows frat boys for free so "people will like her." THOSE messed-up women aren't as easy to dismiss out of hand.

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    Along what Pooka said about boycotting mags because of this....

    I laugh at the ridiculous things written about our industry in mags all the time. However, I choose to laugh it off for reasons even stated in this thread.

    They women/men are:

    uninformed
    biased
    ignorant

    and so on. I'm not letting these people hinder what mags I read. Because this is just one person writing out of many others that comprise the magazine. I'm sure there are people part of the Cosmo staff that actually think that the article in their own mag was ridiculous.

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    I always think the chicks that write these articles must be soooo lame in bed!! While their man is thinking of the hot lap dance he got from one of us!!

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    So she worked in the porn industry even though she hated porn?

    That's like a nurse I met who quit because there were 'too many sick people'.

    She's not just bigoted, she's really really stupid.


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    I got my Cosmo in the mail a few days ago ... started reading it today, and I'm about to read this article. I'll be back!

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    Ever notice how ignorant people seem to be the ones with the most to say? It's really sad that she spent a year close to the industry and never allowed her assumptions to be challenged. Doesn't good journalism challenge assumptions?

    I guess our society truly needs to believe that strippers and porn models/actresses need to be saved from the industry. It just feels better that way, to be the savior. The one in the know. The one with your shit together. The one with decorum. The non-fucked up one. We cross the line that most people fear. When will be applauded for this? Probably never outside the club. Inside the club, however, thanks to these assumptions, we bank because we're the mystery. The brave. The mis-behaved. Hell, after writing all this, I'm getting pretty fucking proud of myself for being a stripper. I'm glad that my choices are so threatening that people have to write about me. Damn, maybe i should thank this woman. More people in the clubs. Yeah, come save me, one $20 bill at a time. WOo!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elusive21 View Post
    Although I was very dissapointed with the article, I do agree with the above quote. We got to have those uptight, frigid women who loathe the idea of anything sexual or erotic. Otherwise, girls, we'd be out of a good job!
    EXACTLY the point i was tryna make lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaRose View Post
    I always think the chicks that write these articles must be soooo lame in bed!! While their man is thinking of the hot lap dance he got from one of us!!
    Hell yeah!

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    I didn't think Cosmo... a Neo-Christian publication? GETTOUTTAHEA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny View Post
    goddamn it.

    the #1 thing that pissed me off about these kind of statements is this:

    almost 1/2 of all women have been sexualy abused...
    Only half? I thought everyone's been sexually abused.

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    its like the walmart of sex, beauty and advice mags....

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    Okay, so I read it and it was not worth my time. This article (and IMHO, the writer) is so lame and ignorant. And HOW can you be blind to all sides of this except one when you work at a porn magazine for a year?! As previous posts mention, that is not the mind of a journalist, someone who wants to learn and experience a 'sub-culture' (if you will), to inform .. this was someone who was paid by a popular women's magazine to feed the readers nonsense that is one-sided, ignorant, and only engorging myths of the lives of women in the sex industry. What she writes about is a valid opinion, and certainly a supported side to this topic, however, to make assumptions on the rest of the industry without even asking someone else's opinion, interviewing someone else on 'the other side' is begging for letters to the editor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny View Post
    goddamn it.

    the #1 thing that pissed me off about these kind of statements is this:

    almost 1/2 of all women have been sexualy abused. about 40%. are these people telling me that 40% of the nations women are strippers?
    Last I heard it was 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 6 boys... I could be off. I totally agree with everything you said tho Penny.

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    its like the walmart of sex, beauty and advice mags....
    Now that's just funny (or maybe sad) because it's true.
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    My opinion about Cosmo in general (and the truth):


    THEY WRITE ABOUT THEIR OWN LIVES. As in, growing up in Manhattan wealthy, parents paying for the best schools so they can get the right contacts to work their way into a job like that---I see how they view it as "prestigious" because it's high-profile and obviously there are only so many positions--a lot of competitiveness that ppl like you and me can't really touch, you gotta have the background ahead of time....

    With that said, it is finally the answer I've been looking for when I wonder over and over why their articles contain shit that does not apply to me.

    It's all about tips for At The Office!! And the "fashion steals" at over $100---most Cosmo readers are probably like myself (before stripping) --young, working menial jobs like retail/waitstaff/bartending, as well as trying to live on your own--it is hard enough to pay MALL PRICES, hello, let alone ugly ass designer crap you have to call 800 #'s to get.

    No matter how much $$$ I make/have, I don't get a big head, the days of not affording a $20 pair of jeans were not that long ago, and I thank my lucky stars I have found an avenue to make $$ so that I can bypass all the unpaid and too-competitive interships in such "glamourous" professions as these. Ugh, so I can sit and write garbage all day that doesn't pertain to other ppl and is str8 up degrading to women?

    It really is a minority of people that can relate to the shit they write about sometimes--there is only a limited amount of women/ppl who have the jobs and lifestyles they do.

    And what is up with those horror story tell-alls? They are usually not so bad!!!

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    i've been trying to stay away from this thread, because i love cosmo. just like the glamour article, it really bugs me that these magazines tell you to go for whatever you want, be a strong woman, blah blah, and then put down choices we make. i didnt even read the article because i knew how i would feel about it, but i did read the statistics at the end. it's just ridiculous.

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