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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    THANK YOU.

    and yes, if he couldnt get a gun, i still think he would've killed as many people. doenst mean he had to use a knife.. bombs, anyone?
    What about the guy that put cyanide in the tylenol bottles in the 80's, and don't forget, Jim Jones killed over 900 with "kool aid".

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    From the texansforgunsafety.org website the half assed and incompletely quoted statistic.


    Homicides Population (in millions) Rate per 100,000

    United States
    10,828 272 3.97
    Canada
    183 31 0.59
    Germany
    103 82 0.13
    England & Wales
    73 52 0.14
    Australia
    65 19 0.34
    Switzerland
    36 7 0.51
    Sweden
    33 9 0.37
    Austria
    27 8 0.34
    Japan
    27 127 0.02
    New Zealand
    3 4 0.15

    Whats missing? Nations that are not part of the first world and the G8 summit. Eastern European Nations such as Russia and Poland. Heck I am curious about Taiwan and China. What about Thailand?

    England & Wales? What about Scotland and Northern Ireland? There part of Great Britain as well or would their inclusion have mad GB look bad?

    Next why is this information several years old? Does the current stats make America look better and the organization doesn't like that or are they intellectually lazy.

    Manchester, If you would like to quote something to support your argument thats fine, misrepresenting the data to support you argument is reprehensible, discredits you and your argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    THANK YOU.

    and yes, if he couldnt get a gun, i still think he would've killed as many people. doenst mean he had to use a knife.. bombs, anyone?



    The actual worst slaying on a school campus in American history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    ...if he couldnt get a gun, i still think he would've killed as many people. doenst mean he had to use a knife.. bombs, anyone?
    excellent point, and one obviosly ignored by the media at this point..

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    Quote Originally Posted by sc0101 View Post
    Humans are violent... We won't ever change.
    But we have changed. We're changing all the time. We're inventing new and better ways to destroy ourselves and everything we can reach, while also coming up with relentless improvements on entertainment. I mean, now we can have our cake and pop in the "Ghandi" DVD too.

    I don't think we need to be as violent as we are. We (kind of...in some places, to some extent) abolished slavery, and (kind of...working on it, some of us) improved gender/ race equality. Saying we can't ethically evolve is not true. There are groups of people who are pacifists through and through. The Amish, for instance. I believe in pacifism on principle. I would rather be shot than shoot someone, always. But change takes a damn long time, and human progress is a two steps forward, one and half steps back kinda deal. With what we've got on hand right now, including all the weapons, resource consumption, and blind race into genetic engineering, chances are we're done before we're smart enough to stop the nonsense. Neitzsche would be proud.

    What I think is our most unfortunate trait: our selective empathy. This will always be our downfall.

    Senseless slaughter of innocent people like this? It happens EVERY SINGLE DAY IN AFRICA...at other times Russia, Cambodia...

    But right now, this week, hundreds, maybe more, Sudanese refugees are going to be tortured and slaughtered. With guns, machetes.

    The difference is, and the only difference is that these people are farther away than the victims in Virginia.

    But how can we live with that kind of empathetic emotion every day, for everyone? We can't. So it doesn't register unless you can get some kind of emotional hook.

    That's why I find ethical psychology so interesting, but also distressing.

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    I probably wouldn't react as I would like to if someone had a bigass gun pointed at me.....but in that situation....if everyone runs at the shooter....ultimately everyone's going to be better off than if they scatter and wait to get shot. Go after the bastard. Everyone THROW something...attack his ass. You'll have a better change.

    But again....I'm sure I wouldn't think that way with a 9mm pointed at me.
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    this is why i dont follow the news...they only seem to report death. i'll admit i havnt been followint the cituation too much. but my hubby was in a dr office waiting room for 1 1/2 hours and watched cnn the whole time...no comerical breaks just complete coverage the other week on this. he ws with his mom..whom was born & raised in ireland. she leaned over and told him, "you'll never see thsi in england."
    "what? the shootings?"
    "oh, no. the IRA does that every single day, you just won't see coverage of it."
    that brings a point...we cover it non stop for as long as rating last. i promise you in 6 months we'll have another shooting and it will be worse. its liek they keep trying to one up another. but he did tell me the stoy of the teacher whom made sure his students got out of the room. he took ever single bullet for them. there are heros everyday, soem stand otu more than others. i sincerly beife this man deserves a purple heart. sadly all hell get is a heart felt thanks from hsi students and maybe...if lucky..a palque. (sorry wee drunk over ehre) but since i heard that story i keep having a poem in my mind. ihad to rememer and recite it in middle school...since its nagging at me i've decided to post it....for our everyday heros..who risk and give their lives



    O Captain! My Captain!


    O CAPTAIN! my Captain! our fearful trip is done;
    The ship has weather’d every rack, the prize we sought is won;
    The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,
    While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring:
    But O heart! heart! heart!
    O the bleeding drops of red,

    Where on the deck my Captain lies,
    Fallen cold and dead.



    O Captain! my Captain! rise up and hear the bells;
    Rise up—for you the flag is flung—for you the bugle trills; 10
    For you bouquets and ribbon’d wreaths—for you the shores a-crowding;
    For you they call, the swaying mass, their eager faces turning;
    Here Captain! dear father!
    This arm beneath your head;

    It is some dream that on the deck,
    You’ve fallen cold and dead.



    My Captain does not answer, his lips are pale and still;
    My father does not feel my arm, he has no pulse nor will;
    The ship is anchor’d safe and sound, its voyage closed and done;
    From fearful trip, the victor ship, comes in with object won; 20
    Exult, O shores, and ring, O bells!
    But I, with mournful tread,

    Walk the deck my Captain lies,
    Fallen cold and dead.

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    ^^^ That makes me think of an Irish friend of mine. He used to sing it.
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