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    Tonight at the club I had two different people ask me to do private at-home dances for b-day parties, one this Saturday and one in May. Would you do this? How much would you charge? How do you deal with your safety? What do I need to know? Anyone know the laws in Virginia for this? VA is a non-nude state for clubs, but what about in a home?

    I was planning on asking one of the bouncers from the club to come with me and charge the customer whatever he wanted to be paid. I also can have the husband come, but the bouncer is a much bigger guy who knows how to deal with trouble.

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    take the bouncer, for sure. imo, hubby and work=bad combo.

    Charge him at least 100oveer what you'd make in an hour at the club. Best case, of course. Like, if you at most make 100 an hour, charge 2. if 2, charge 3.

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    Default Re: VA: Dancing at a customers house? Would you do it? How much?

    Whenever I get asked this I just say that i only dance at the club. It's not worth my while to have to organise a bouncer, getting there etc.
    Unless they are offering you more than u think u would make at the club on a good night I wouldn't bother. There are plenty of agencies that people who want dancers to come to the home can use.

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    Default Re: VA: Dancing at a customers house? Would you do it? How much?

    So you'd only do it if they paid more than you made on your best night? My best night was $400, so charge $500? That's what my husband said...

    oh yeah, my husband is totally supportive, comes in to the club all the time, no worries there.
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    Default Re: VA: Dancing at a customers house? Would you do it? How much?

    Yep $500 sounds good. Otherwise it would be more convenient for u just to stay at the club.

    Also set limits when u r discussing price. A lot of at-home stripping involves more than just nudity - for example using sex toys, vibrators etc. If you dont want to do that then tell them before hand.

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    Default Re: VA: Dancing at a customers house? Would you do it? How much?

    Hell yeah, if you're going to do it, you should charge $500 flat fee plus tips and the bouncer gets paid separately. I personally couldn't do a private party like that, to me I think it's too risky and too much headache but if you're willing to do it, then charge them a lot because you're coming to them in the privacy of their own party not at the club so they have to pay for their convenience of you coming there! And if they say OMG, that's sooo expensive then say, ok good luck finding someone else!

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    Default Re: VA: Dancing at a customers house? Would you do it? How much?

    Quote Originally Posted by Poco View Post
    Tonight at the club I had two different people ask me to do private at-home dances for b-day parties, one this Saturday and one in May. Would you do this? How much would you charge? How do you deal with your safety? What do I need to know? Anyone know the laws in Virginia for this? VA is a non-nude state for clubs, but what about in a home?

    I was planning on asking one of the bouncers from the club to come with me and charge the customer whatever he wanted to be paid. I also can have the husband come, but the bouncer is a much bigger guy who knows how to deal with trouble.
    I do not know VA rules for throwing such parties. It would be in your best interest to call a lawyer and ask them. I would hate for the 2 people who asked you to perform these parties are undercovers. If they are, and you get caught, that would be considered solicitation...







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    Default Re: VA: Dancing at a customers house? Would you do it? How much?

    Down here in Richmond the going rate for a private party is $300 for an hour plus tips. If it's for a group, like a bachelor party, you can make good amount in tips. If its a one on one, the chances of making more tips are less so you can charge more.
    As everyone else said take a bouncer with you. I'd take someone from the club rather thatn your husbsnd just becasue they're used to dealing with this. There may even be some that have bounced a private party before.
    The standard for us is to pay the bouncer $50 which comes out of the cost. ($300 for party, $50 for bouncer). I've always tipped more out of my tips.

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    Default Re: VA: Dancing at a customers house? Would you do it? How much?

    I'm not sure how the laws are in VA about this,but be careful about the club finding this out,they might not like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusdancer View Post
    I'm not sure how the laws are in VA about this,but be careful about the club finding this out,they might not like it.
    She's right. One club I worked out would charge you a $500 fine if they found out you did a private party.

    As for VA laws, I had heard at one point that any nude dancing was illegal in the state but I have to wonder about that now since there is one club in Richmond that has nude lap dances (the owner gets around the law by having the customers go upstairs form the main club. It's his private residence above the club so you have to walk through his apartment to do a dance) I have never had any problems with the law when I've done parties. It could be looked at as solicitation but that's kind of a grey area. It came up when Richmond first started having contact LD's about 7 years ago. Some say it is a sexual act and if we get paid for it it's prostitution. Stronger heads prevailed and realized that it is not a sexual act and LD's are going strong here.

    I don't think you would have any problems. Get your bouncer to handle the business transaction, collect your money up front. Don't drink, if you do have our bouncer get your drinks for you. Have your bouncer state your rules up front. Mine give a little speach about what they are and are not allowed to touch and do, like no pics. If any problems arise let him handle it. I always get my bouncer to go into the place first and check it out, if he thinks it looks sketchy we bolt. My safety is not worth any amount of $$$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan-Va View Post
    Down here in Richmond the going rate for a private party is $300 for an hour plus tips. If it's for a group, like a bachelor party, you can make good amount in tips. If its a one on one, the chances of making more tips are less so you can charge more.
    As everyone else said take a bouncer with you. I'd take someone from the club rather thatn your husbsnd just becasue they're used to dealing with this. There may even be some that have bounced a private party before.
    The standard for us is to pay the bouncer $50 which comes out of the cost. ($300 for party, $50 for bouncer). I've always tipped more out of my tips.
    That's great info, thanks. My husband called the police here and they said there are no laws regarding stripping, just prostitution which is sex. So I guess I am going to tell them it's NO CONTACT. Right?

    Should I bring sex toys? What do you do for a show? And am I going to have to dance/lapdance for the whole two hours? What usually goes on?

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    You can have contact. I do my LD's the same way I do them in the club, full contact. In Richmond guys can't touch our breast but I let guys do this at parties.

    Some parties I do shows, some I don't. I personally don't do shows with sex toys but I know girls who do, that's your decision. Some shows that are easy to do, a lotion show, guys got all hot and bothered by a girl rubbing lotion on herself, you can get the bachelor/b-day boy involved by having him suqirt the lotion on you. You can do this with baby oil too. I did one show with black light paint, I had a black light and would pour the paint on me, it looks really cool. Hot wax is goof too. If you are going to do a show that is messy like this make sure that they have a place that yo can clean up and bring a blanket or shower curtain to protect the flooring.

    I don't dance for a full hour, your gonna need to take a break to relax and freshen up, this is included in my hour of time.

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    Honestly...9 times out of ten this is customer-speak for "come to my place for sex". Once in awhile they may actually just want a dancer....but most guys who ask you to dance privately want a hooker.
    It isnt worth it.
    And telling a bouncer may get you introuble with the club if they are particular about thei dancers doing OTC stuff. After all...if you said no, those guys would just come to the club and buy VIP rooms for their party(thats what a manager might think..not necessarily true) so by going OTC you are taking money away from the club.

    Most of the time...it really isnt worth it. BUT if you are going to do it...take security(not necessarily a club bouncer for reasons above) and get paid UP FRONT. They pay the full amount as soon as you get there or you turn arund and leave. No "we'll get you after" no "half now half after the show". Lapdances(if you do them) are extra. Tips welcome and expected.

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    Hi everyone. I just wanted to post my opinion.. 500.00 an hour seems a bit extreme as the 300.00/hour seems a bit more inline. I've had dancers over at my place, years ago, and it always worked out fine. The bouncer always stayed pretty much out the way. The money I've paid always goes to the dancer what or how the bouncer gets paid is up to her. That's your cust not the customer. I would be very specific and detailed as to what is and isn't allowed ie. touching, no touching, I'd be very clear that there's not going to be any sex and that no one is getting laid, can customer's masturbate yes/no, what about you? do they want you to bring toys are you willing to use them? those are some questions to think about and address and pretty sure some of those same questions are going thru the customers mind. You could also ask the customer exactly what it is that he's looking for and ask him to be specific, and then work from that. check your yellow book for exotic dancers and find out what the going rate is for your area, my guess would be it's closer to the 300.00 an hour. Just some ideas from a guys point of view.

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    My husband looked up the state codes and found that prostitution is (pretty much) sexual contact - like "actual" sex (oral, anal, vaginal) - the code is VERY short, only like 4-5 entries, and it's pretty basic.

    But I think you're right, we'll talk to a lawyer, and talk to the club.

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    I wouldn't do it. You are still new to the business, so it seems that $500 is a lot of money. I'd rathe go to work and make less than compromise my safety. Plus if you involve the bouncer, not only you need to pay him for your time, but he may tell the managers/owners that you do private parties and there is a risk you may get in trouble for it at work. In addition, I agree that most of the time when a customer asks you to come to his house to dance it's because he wants more than just dances. If he wanted dances only, he'd be spending money on you at the club. If he says he wants private dances, take him to champagne/VIP room. I'd say this guy wants more than just dances. I don't know girl, I wouldn't take the risk.

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    Default Re: VA: Dancing at a customers house? Would you do it? How much?

    Lotsa good comments, I'm really thinking about it a lot more.

    I think these guys are legit, since they are both doing them for parties, not just alone. One guy even has a VERY big name band coming to the house which he paid $10k for.

    My husband and i put together some rules to tell the clients, pretty much along the lines of what you all have said. Like cash up front, it's a "appearance fee" only and if you break the rules i'm gone. No drugs, no touching ME (although i may touch you), anything sketchy and i'm gone, lap dances $20 and tips encouraged, etc.

    I'm more worried about the laws. It's gotta be legal or i wont do it.

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    I didn't read everyone's comments, but I just want to point out to you that I know at least one girl at your club who has slept with a lot of guys who have seen her at the club. Now maybe they didn't all start out as customers but I know her reputation and I hardly know her.... Be careful! Please!! You're new to this and

    I think these guys are legit, since they are both doing them for parties, not just alone. One guy even has a VERY big name band coming to the house which he paid $10k for.
    How do you know this isn't bs? And if he's paying that much for a stripper I'd up my fee and if he says it's unreasonable and you want to do this dance say something like "Well I usually make around that much at the club, but I like you so how about" and give him something lower, but def don't go below $500!!
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    If you feel you have to contact a lawyer, police, etc...is it really worth all that?

    But if you decide to do it...and you are talking to a lawyer anyway...draw up a contract to be signed. Outline date time(EXACTLY when you will be there and how long you will stay), limitations, payment, etc....that ANY inappropriate conduct or illegal activies(including but not limited to drugs on the premisis..)
    Your lawyer will be able to tell you what to put in the contract.

    Honestly....I've done private parties(always a 2 or more girl show so I wasnt alone which makes the actual show much easier since I'm not entertaining all alone) a few times for guys who I met in the club. It was ok..but not really worth it. I did it for the experience( and always brought an armed guard with me) and I could have made the same money with less hassle in the club at the time.

    Some girls prefer private parties for many reasons over club dancing...but I wasnt as comfortable with it. It's a personal preferance.

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    Default Re: VA: Dancing at a customers house? Would you do it? How much?

    The club I work at really isn't that much of a money maker. $300 an hour would be the most I'd ever made, so there is a lure there... Yeah it does seem like a hassle, but I only have to check with the lawyer once, I figure, and the money would be helpful.

    I think $300/hr would be fair, but two hour minimum at least.

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    i did this often when my guy was here in the states. he would accompany me as a bodyguard, and i charged by the SONG.

    $20 with panties, $50 nude. Minimum $100.

    i made quite a bit of money that way, and i didn't have to go to the club for a month!!! ahh those were the days, haha!

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    and the songs were 3 minutes +, i usually let the guys pick them... to make them think they were getting the special treatment, haha.

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    Default Re: VA: Dancing at a customers house? Would you do it? How much?

    Did you ever have any problems with custys getting out of hand? What did you do?

    The husband found a stripper site and they charge a $75 deposit to the person's credit card. He thinks it's a good idea, to validate their identity (he has a credit card processing account for his business), and then match their ID when I get there. I think all cash is fine. What do you think?

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    Default Re: VA: Dancing at a customers house? Would you do it? How much?

    Hi Poco,

    Some info from a slightly different perspective.

    I take a dancer to private parties (in the UK) from time to time. I've known her for 5 years and I go along in the twin role of friend and security.

    Firstly, don't take your husband along - take a bouncer. Comes as a bit of a shock to the system to see someone you know well using toys. Took me about 6 months to develop a degree of detachment to what goes on. Far better to have a bouncer, who'll just take it as an extension of his day job.

    Secondly, bearing in mind the comments above about how your club will react, have you considered doing it via an agency. You can pass the agency's details on to your potential customers. Keeps a bit of space between your activities and your work at the club.

    Also, the agency (if good) should verify customer details for you - name, address, phone number and such like. If they pay a deposit by credit card even better. All safeguards for your customer's good behaviour.

    Again, if you work through an agency, they'll ask for a fee. On the other hand, you might get more bookings. Evens out in the long term.

    Expect the shows requested to be raunchier that you're allowed at the club - thet's why the guy is asking for them. The shows I take this dancer to are generally 2 girl shows: 2 solo spots each + a lesbian finale. Runs about 90 minutes from start to finish.

    They're toy shows, so have a think if you'll be comfortable going down this route. If you sign up for one, it'll be very difficult to say no if you change your mind at the guy's house.

    If they're birthday spots try and arrange it for earlier in the evening, say before they go to a night club. You don't want to arrive at midnight and find a house full of drunk guys.

    Again, if they're birthdsay spots a bit of ritual humilition of the birthday boy seems to be expected. Stripped down, covered in shaving foam and backside given a few whacks with a whip seems to be parr for the course.

    If you're doing a stronger spot you don't want any women there - bad news if they've had a bit too much to drink cos you're almost guarenteed a scene.

    Phil.

    PS: You might want to look in the Private Party Dancing forum - lots of info there.

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    Default Re: VA: Dancing at a customers house? Would you do it? How much?

    Thanks for all the info. I did just stumble across the private party forum, so I've been reading like crazy.

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