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    Time to cut the umbilical?

    I have a question for everyone...

    I've been dancing for ALMOST 4months now. I like my club, LOVE the girls(very little drama amongst us), LOVE the bartenders/staff. All of this is great... but at what time do you cut the ties and move on to a newer club??

    I've never made a LOT of money at my club... Some of the girls tell me that it will pick up and get much better as soon as Tax Season is over..and then other girls who've been around tell me that my club is just not a "money" club. It seems to me, and even some customers have told me that..our club is more of a local hangout where there just happens to be a naked girl dancing...so no true "strip club feel"

    ((And when I say never made a lot of money I mean...I've been making $500 a month..working there at least 3-4 shifts a week.))

    I know that it IS tax season as everyone says, and I am around dancers from other clubs enough to know this is all true.. but even these other girls at other clubs are still pulling in anywhere from $150-200 a shift. Ok, assuming they are not lying, but I know these girls fairly well and see no reason for them to lie. But, anyways... (I ramble) point is.. to these girls I know $150 IS A SLOW night...and right now for me..?? That'd a be a fantastic night.

    Anyways... how would you handle this?

    One of my favorite girls to work with recently just quit...she said she was sick of the club making her feel ugly (because nobody wants to tip), and being guilted into shifts that didn't make any money. (I am guilty of this too)

    Sigh....I'm becoming so stressed over this. I need to have $500 made in the next two weeks for rent. I work tonight & Sunday for this week...and probably 3 days next week. And I feel like making $500 is damn near impossible. I'm just stressed outta my mind...and I don't want this stress to interupt myself at work...

    I am a happy/friendly dancer...I am awesome(not trying to brag) at talking and interacting with custies. I LOVE to perform...and I too feel ugly when nobody bothers to watch me..let alone tip me. Sighh.... somebody yell at me or something. I feel gutless right now.

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    Default Re: Time to cut the umbilical?

    u make $31 a day????
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    Default Re: Time to cut the umbilical?

    yes, NOW!

    if you are working 3-4 shifts a week and making $500 a MONTH....omg, there are greener pastures. Even waitresses at Applebees make more than that.

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    Default Re: Time to cut the umbilical?

    Before I started dancing I was working two jobs... one of which I won't leave because it's gonna be my career when dancing is over for me... and I make good money at it...but I only work 2 days a week doing it........ therefore(rambling again) I NEED a second job to pay part of rent and a few other bills. Sooo.. I WAS working at a local pet shop making minimum. And as of right now.... I have been pulling in SLIGHTLY more then I was making at the pet shop monthly.

    I make anywhere from ..... $20 a shift to $130 a shift. My BEST shift ever being a mid shift where I made $150 (BEFORE tip out)

    Sigh... I know I need to leave.... but do I just leave completely or at least keep one shift there and start working somewhere else too??

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    Default Re: Time to cut the umbilical?

    I understand needing a second job for extra cash, but those earnings are very low for our industry. You can do better, and if you can't, you might want to try waitressing in a restaurant or even an hourly wage job.

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    Default Re: Time to cut the umbilical?

    Yeah, seriously, there's far better, more lucrative places in Portland. Get the fuck out of there, now. Why on earth would you want to continue working there for $50 shifts?

    And for the love of god, please review and name the club so some of these Portland newbies don't go there!

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    Default Re: Time to cut the umbilical?

    I have reviewed the club... but when I left the review I had JUST started out and I was earning at least $130 each night. I thought that was a pretty good amount of cash, especially since the other girls said it is still a slow time in the season. But, since then the money has way declined.

    I'm just having a hard time moving on because..well..because I think I am so comfortable with the surroundings, the girls, and other staff. I spent this last weekend looking at other clubs.

    I even had a girl at one club ask me if I'd consider dancing because she said I would do very well there....hehe....as long as I'm not a snobby girl. Which I am not.

    I even took home an Exotic Magazine (a local mag with all the strip club listings in it) so I could call the club and set up an audition there..and a few other clubs. Yet, I lose my nerve. Damn wounded ego!!

    I think it's because my club is small, I feel the need and saftey of a small club. I danced ONE SET at Tommy's...bleh!! Because the bartender begged me to...but that is a place where in Portland... most dancers go to die/retire. No joke. So, I danced one set...didn't feel safe... packed up my gear and left. Sigh...

    I don't mean to be a drain...or a whiner... I just need reassurance that I'm not crazy in what I am doing.

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    ~PMed you~

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    Default Re: Time to cut the umbilical?

    wow, and i was feeling that $1k a month was hurting me...

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    Sun Child already made my day sunnier. Thank you for the PM.

    I don't like standard beauty - there is no beauty without strangeness. ~Karl Lagerfeld
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    Default Re: Time to cut the umbilical?

    Honey, change clubs. Really. You sound intelligent and your avatar photo is cute, just try a bunch of clubs til you find one that you like and where you can make money. I dance in Portland, I work day shift and I went home at 7 o'clock yesterday with $495. Tax season isn't an excuse and there is money in Portland. You deserve more!

    [edited to add:]
    You know I just reread where you said you've been dancing only 4 months, I'm sure you'll also start making more as you gain experience. You still need to switch clubs, but I'm sure you'll make more just by doing it a bit longer.
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    w/o any more debating or deciding.. or.. procrastinating.. I am going to audition this coming week (but ONLY waiting till then because I work my other job all weekend).

    Not one person on here has told me ... or suggested I stick it out. Which is just all the more proof that I do need to move on. I really thank you guys for listening to me. It makes me feel like IT IS unrealistic to ask girls to stay at a club where $150 is a top earner.

    On the other end... I guess it was a good club to learn to dance and find some sort of stage confidence.. maybe? Eh.....

    Thanks everyone.

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    Yeah, hey, it's only been four months -- I think a lot of Portland newbies go through that, starting at a little club, then thinking, "Damn, I thought strippers made money," and then moving on.

    I'll see you next week if sun child PMed you what I think she did

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    It's hard to leave a club where you are comfortable. You are doing the right thing by switching. I don'y know that area, but htere are lots of clubs to pick from with a laid back bar feel where you'll make more $$$$.

    Time for a bigger pond. Good luck, let us know how it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDXGrrly View Post

    I think it's because my club is small, I feel the need and saftey of a small club. I danced ONE SET at Tommy's...bleh!! Because the bartender begged me to...but that is a place where in Portland... most dancers go to die/retire. No joke. So, I danced one set...didn't feel safe... packed up my gear and left. Sigh...
    Sorry, that made me laugh. Sounds like Raider's Reef here.

    It's time to move on. Seriously. Comfort won't pay your bills.

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    500 A Month??? 1 K A Month??? Move On Girl!!! I Freak Out When I Only Make 1000 A Week :x

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    Default Re: Time to cut the umbilical?

    You look so cute in your avatar picture! Go to a new club where you can make more money, dont let the cuteness go to waste.
    If you feel close ties with the people at your club i can see why you are hesitant to leave, but remember they arent paying your bills, do whats best for you!
    You can have the chance to make extra money for leisure as well!

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    Yes, Corsica....

    It was quite the uhhhh....establishment....the only reason I went in, was because I was checking out clubs in the area. Other girls told me not to go there..but it was RIGHT across the street from another club that I WAS interested in.

    To make the story better... the other girl I was with is 8months pregnant. When we told him we were looking at clubs he said, "You guys wanna dance the closing set? I have no dancers, and these girls are outta here."

    When my friend told him that she was pregnant he said, "Let's see how much."

    After she shows him her belly...he STILL wanted her to dance. Yikes. I mean, she's still damn gorgeous but.......uhhhhhh... 8months pregnant????

    Also the CLUB RULES in the ... dressing room(I use term dressing room VERY loosely..since it was a closet with a mirror and shelf) they were great .. things like "shower berfore you come to work" and "don't wear street clothes on stage"

    and both dancers that were dancing... over 45..if not over 50(and I've seen some damn attractive girls in their early 50's still dance..but these two were NOT it) .... One girl had white hair...and looked um....like a zombie. Other girl had a really tight 70's ish perm and walked with a limp.

    It was a GREAT scene... heh...


    ANYWAYSSSSS... update... I DO PLAN ON AUDITIONING AT SOME BETTER/BIGGER clubs this week. I love you girls for thinking I can make it at The Dolphin(my dream club) but I am so scared ... such a big pond full o "stripper goddesses" ...hehe... I'm a little fish. But, I am gonna suck up some courage from somewhere and check it out!!

    Thanks for everyones feed back and help!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDXGrrly View Post
    ANYWAYSSSSS... update... I DO PLAN ON AUDITIONING AT SOME BETTER/BIGGER clubs this week. I love you girls for thinking I can make it at The Dolphin(my dream club) but I am so scared ... such a big pond full o "stripper goddesses" ...hehe... I'm a little fish. But, I am gonna suck up some courage from somewhere and check it out!!

    Thanks for everyones feed back and help!!
    This phrase sounds like it is from a true Oregonian! The Dolphin is just another strip club, but with customers who actually spend money. Most places in the US would look at Dolphin as a dive, BTW. It is a club and they need you more than you need them. Just remember that The Dolphin needs dancers of a variety of looks in order to succeed. That is why they have the customer base that they do.

    I would never say this to a seasoned dancer (and it may not work for you either because of your other job) BUT...Rockstar might be able to put you into a variety of clubs while working for the same agency. They demand loyalty, so if you decide to work at a non-Rockstar managed club, you will be fired and not allowed to work for them again. They do have some decent money clubs like Club 205 and Sassy's. It seems to me you could do a pseudo strip dance at Saturday Market and make more than you are at your present club. Time to move on and let the dying business not drag you down with it.


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    Lmfao 50 Year Olds Dancing?? Omg :o

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    Yes, girl you need to move on and quickly! Every dancer gets attached to thier first club, but once you move on, you think, "wtf was I waiting for???" You are hot and deserve better! I'm pretty sure you'll start making a lot more money in the very near future!

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    Hey PDXGrrly, if you just walk into any club and are intelligent enough to ask good questions then you can get a great feel for a place. (I.e., I walked into Aces High and the person I talked to seemed so pissed that I'd even ask about things like rotation, stage fees and average # of girls!)

    Like so many other ladies have said, you can make way more money waitressing than working at your current club. There are different kinds of ways to work crappy jobs and honestly, serving drinks is probably better than getting naked for the same amount of dough. And you get SIN discounts, which is sweet. (OLCC certification bonus)

    The first time I ever audtioned and worked the DI, I was SO nervous -- it was the fanciest club I'd been at (Devil's Point and Sassy's were my home clubs)... such a big dressing room!!! (rofl) But EVERYWHERE in Portland is filled with people who love women with great personality and a fun stage show. Even those tourists used to fancy 200+ girl clubs love the laid-back atmosphere of Portland clubs! The performance skills you get at smaller venues, combined with hard work at improving those sales skills (thank hustle hut), means you can go out to those bigger venues and make $$.

    Like I've said in other threads, I'd consider myself an average hustler (well, when you work with holiday on a shift there's no keeping up with that kind of mofo ) but a 1-2 times a month I can make more than my rent. The cost of living is low in PDX and you can either:
    a) work for a substandard/minimum wage at a strip club
    b) work for a minimum wage at another similarly low-skilled job (think about our unemployment rate... the fact that you can just WALK INTO A CLUB and have the potential to make hundreds is amazing!)
    c) get in that top 10% of PDX dancers who take their jobs seriously, have confidence in themselves and really enjoy the freedom of this job in a WONDERFUL city.

    hearts,
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    Hey PDXGrrly-

    We talked a little about this in passing last week, but if that's all your making in a month you NEED to move on. I've had a few nights like that, but it's not the standard for me and I can afford it if I have a slow night. I also adjust my schedule to hit the more lucrative nights since it seems to vary month by month. Get ye to a new club! You know I like to keep the good dancers at the club I work at, but this is a job and we're here to make money! Plus, if you leave on good terms and ever need a night or two fill in you can always call and put yourself back on the schedule.

    I hope everything works out for you and you find a club that makes you lots o' moolah!

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    The 8 month preggers thing is hilarious. It's just sort of sad ( for your money making potential ) that the story is real.

    Do the math on your time . You'll be shocked at the low hourly rate . You could bartend and and do MUCH better WITH clothes on.

    If you wanted experience / a chance to gain confidence , you got it .

    Now ...... Get out of there and make some $$$ !

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