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    At my club, we have one-way contact LDs, nude no-contact table dances for a bit more $$, a 15-minute CR, and then the regular half-hour or hour CRs.

    Lately I've not even been mentioning the regular CRs, because I'm so damn sick of always getting the guys who a) act like they're giving away their life savings and have to be cajoled into it, b) make me grind them for a half hour straight b/c they "need to get the most bang" for their precious money. and c) make me feel like I'm doing some strange form of martial art instead of dancing, b/c I have to fend off their hands every two seconds---they try to finger my ass, grab my tits, pull off my bikini top and thong, push me into their crotch and bark at me to grind harder, literally throw me and push me around, lick me (EW EW EW EW ) ...

    I'm so fucking sick of being molested in the CR, it really makes me want to not sell them anymore at all, and just do LDs and table dances.

    BUT, what makes me even more frustrated is that I see other girls getting CRs all the time where their custies are gentlemen: they spend half the time talking, they let their dancers do sensual, erotic dances rather than nonstop grindgrindgrind until her crotch is sore, they don't throw the girls around or get rough, they don't try to get away with more than is allowed, they order champagne (my CR custies almost always balk at the price and don't even offer me a drink at all)...

    I've been watching a few of the girls who always get the good CR custies, to see what they're doing differently, but I'm stumped. The few pleasant CR's I've done were by accident (i.e. the custie came up to me onstage or grabbed me off the floor and asked ME for the CR; I didn't hustle it.)

    It's fucking irritating! I know pleasant CRs can be gotten, because other girls get them all the time...and I've had a few myself...but how?

    What are the signs that a custy will probably be a good CR candidate rather than a pushy, grind-me-nonstop-while-I-try-to-finger-you asshole? What are the signs that he will be a terrible CR custy?

    What might I be doing wrong with my CR hustle? Suggestions? Your experiences? I'm clearly doing something wrong, because like I said...I attract all the rough cheap asses, while other girls get the gentlemen on a regular basis.

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    Customers who grope my thighs before I introduce myself will be bad.
    Customers who look for doors on the CR will be bad.
    Customers who bargain with you generally will be more trouble.

    Customers who tell you that they want an hour (not 15 min) generally will be good. 15-30 min customers tend to want the most for their money.

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    ^Agreed with that. Also, I don't bother trying to sell the guys who seem pushy or like they have to be hard-sold on CR. I might do a few dances for them but if they aren't a fairly easy sell on CR I'll move on. ALSO if they don't tip for floor dances they are usually bad CR custies, if you get them back there.

    I probably preach this alot, but I prefer to walk away from guys who give the asshole vibe and concentrate on easier / nicer custies. I know it might sound like I walk away from alot of money, but NO, I'm walking TO the better money. I feel the assholes don't deserve my time even if they are paying and I'd rather save my energy for better customers. Maybe I am walking away from $x at that particular moment but I'll get my money later that night or another night from a nicer guy, AND I feel much better when I leave work every night. I don't fucking care if some asshole has $50,000 cash just burning a hole in his pocket; if he's too much of an asshole I will walk away to deal with someone nicer. I'll get mine later.

    And actually, I totally believe that the fact that I KNOW I'll get mine from a nicer dude helps me make more money easier. Whatever the reason, if you KNOW it will happen, then it will. If you believe that you "have to" put up with bullshit in order to get money from customers, then that's exactly what you're going to get. So maybe everyone should examine their own ideas on how our money is made, and learn to believe that we WILL get something better because we deserve it. Change your beliefs and change your luck

    The #1 worst sign for me is the ones who start trying to grab or "sneak" a feel within 30 seconds of my approach ugh
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    "what will i get back there?" thats my number one walk-away sign.

    Love it!

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    ^Sometimes "what do I get" is just a legitimate question. Just trying to get exact details on what they're buying, not always trying to figure out if they'll get their "money's worth". ( Btw I've come to LOATHE that little phrase ) Anyway, alot of the guys who ask that aren't molester assholes in my experience - although the way they ask the question can be an indicator. I will play a little coy to try to get him to be more specific about what he's expecting before I walk away.

    In one club a set amount of drinks would be included in the CR price, so I'd always include that in my schpiel but phrase it like it's a real bargain: "you get me all to yourself for a half hour, PLUS we get 2 free drinks each!" Whatever you can use to make it sound great....

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    haha...someone last night was stupid enough to ask a *bouncer* "what do I get in the CR?" He replied: "champagne!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy68 View Post
    "what will i get back there?" thats my number one walk-away sign.
    When they ask that for LDs, I take that as a sign they're going to be trouble, and that's the only time I will get the $$ up front. Usually I'm right, and I end up walking away with their $ when they try to finger me or grab my tits.

    When hustling CRs though, I usually get the warning signs *after* the transaction's already been made: he gropes my ass while we're walking back; he tells me he wants "the room in the corner" or "whichever's farthest from the bouncers" (same goes for the guy who insists on the darkest corner LD couch with a leer on his face); he complains about the cameras or the fact that our CR walls are glass or that the room's not dark enough. (To which I smile and say, "well you're going to behave, so it doesn't matter, does it?")

    One obvious one that does send out red flags while I'm hustling is when I say that he's allowed to touch me in CR, and he gets that leer on his face and says "I can touch everywhere??"

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    Ugh, The Leer. No matter what they're saying, that's almost always a good sign of trouble ahead

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    Honestly, I am not so concerned with "what" he will do in the CR. He pays me $$ to give him a show. I give him a damn good show that I am comfortable giving.
    I lay out all the rules beforehand. If they get out of line, I give them one or two warnings, and then I just end the room early... That's what he gets for being an asshole.

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    ^Ahaha!! One night recently I almost ended a room early on a guy, he pissed me off so bad. He just kept trying to "sneak" his hand in my crotch, so I warned him a couple times, and pushed his hand down. Each time getting more and more aggressive. On the 4th attempt I just lost it and punched him as hard as I could in the chest - could've been the face but chest was closest to punch at the time HA. And screamed at him "that's IT! I told you to fucking stop that so I'm getting the fuck out of here!!!" He did a complete 180 from Mr Molestor Asshole of the Year to Pathetic Fucking Loser in about 1 second flat. Started tugging at my arm and BEGGING me to stay, "please, just sit down and relax, I PROMISE I'll be good". For whatever reason I calmed down, told him if he tried one more thing I'd have his ass thrown out on his fucking ear, sat down on the couch next to him and drank my drink for the remaining time. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by $$$magnet View Post
    Honestly, I am not so concerned with "what" he will do in the CR. He pays me $$ to give him a show. I give him a damn good show that I am comfortable giving.
    I lay out all the rules beforehand. If they get out of line, I give them one or two warnings, and then I just end the room early... That's what he gets for being an asshole.
    That is excellent advice.

    But I still just don't get why I attract all the nasty leches in the first place, while other girls seem to have some sixth sense on which custies are going to be pleasant gentlemen in the CR. How do I get these custies who are just going to behave on their own, without me having to crack the whip on them? There are three girls in particular at my club who ALWAYS, and I mean every single night, manage to find multiple custies who will take them to CR and give them massages, and/or just talk and drink champagne with little spurts of dancing, and of course ridiculously large tips. It drives me insane to work with these girls and see them just chilling in the CR with all these guys who are paying $300+ just to basically worship them...while I'm in the next glass-walled room trying not to whimper because the guy's shoving my crotch up and down on his jeans so hard that it's chafing while he digs his fingers into my hips and won't stop trying to demand extras.

    These girls that get the CR gems aren't dealing with regulars (usually), they're just hustling custies on their own like everyone else....and I know they're not making it up or exaggerating when they brag about doing hourlong rooms all night with guys who gave amazing foot massages and treated them like queens...because the CR walls are see-through, and everyone can see what's going on. They really ARE getting the gems all the time!

    But clearly, they're doing something far different in their hustle and approach than I am. I fucking WISH I knew what it was!!! arghghghghgfuckfuckfuck!

    The only thing that I know is different between me and those girls is confidence. They all manage to OOZE confidence, and make the custies feel like they are priveleged just to be in their company. And they let him know that *they* are in control of the room or dance. But that attitude is like a mysterious je ne sais quoi that I can't seem to recreate myself.

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    But I still just don't get why I attract all the nasty leches in the first place, while other girls seem to have some sixth sense on which custies are going to be pleasant gentlemen in the CR.
    I'm telling you, it's because that's what you're expecting. You *think* about it, focus on it (even though you're talking about how much you dislike it, you're still focusing on it), so this makes you project something that attracts these assholes. Focus on what you WANT, and you'll start finding you attract more of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Picaresque View Post
    But I still just don't get why I attract all the nasty leches in the first place, while other girls seem to have some sixth sense on which custies are going to be pleasant gentlemen in the CR. How do I get these custies who are just going to behave on their own, without me having to crack the whip on them? There are three girls in particular at my club who ALWAYS, and I mean every single night, manage to find multiple custies who will take them to CR and give them massages, and/or just talk and drink champagne with little spurts of dancing, and of course ridiculously large tips. .
    Honestly, I think it's because you're putting up with shit that you don't need to. Don't sell yourself short, and don't look at work in a night-by-night perspective. Let me explain:

    When I was younger, I would sit with customers who said things and did things that were innappropriate and made me feel badly. It seemed like to go home with money, I had to let them treat me that way. And maybe, sometimes it's true: if you're going to act like a lady, you might not make money on one given night.

    But by DEMANDING that someone treats you like a lady, your self worth goes up and everyone can show it. As much as customers pick me, I pick my customers. If someone is talking all perverted and trying to grope me and it's beyond what I can mitigate, I leave. Did I maybe miss out on some money from that guy? Maybe I did. But I feel good about myself, respect myself, and it is easy enough for me to walk to the next guy and chat him up.

    I really only spend time with customers I like and have a good rapport with. Don't get me wrong, I'll do dances for anybody who asks unless they are a freak, but for me to start investing time in a person and chatting up VIP, I have to think they're reasonably decent and kind of like them.

    This is why it's easy for me to STAY in vip and drink and hang out with customers. I do like them! I am having fun talking to them! It's a little party in that vip room.

    I never go to work feeling like I must make x amount of dollars that night. If I have a shitty night, whatever. Hey I've LOST money going to work... it's no big thing.

    On a final note, it is said that what makes a good sales person is believing in the product you are selling. I firmly believe that the amount I charge for VIP is very fair; I am worth it. If someone doesn't see that, then they can piss off. There is some dude out there who will.

    Try walking around with the attitude my friend Brett calls "Pretty Pretty Princess." You're a fantasy, a goddess dammit!
    Sexy Jasmine after getting fucked over at work:

    God loves strippers and when guys do things like that its an automatic ticket to HELL!


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    ^Exactly what I was saying earlier, in different words

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    ^Sometimes "what do I get" is just a legitimate question. Just trying to get exact details on what they're buying, not always trying to figure out if they'll get their "money's worth". ( Btw I've come to LOATHE that little phrase ) Anyway, alot of the guys who ask that aren't molester assholes in my experience - although the way they ask the question can be an indicator. I will play a little coy to try to get him to be more specific about what he's expecting before I walk away.
    yea, i agree, but i was meaning when it's asked in the tone of "you have to hard sell me because i want the works, and for that price i better be getting extras". when they are just curious, i feel like it's more along the lines of, "so what really goes on back there?" but yea, i agree that it *can* be legit.

    Love it!

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    Meh, yeah. I will either walk away or just sell a couple more dances to those hard-sell assholes. Actually sometimes I can get several dances out of those dudes, all while playing coy and making them keep asking what REALLY goes on in back

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