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    Default Got a free dance, kinda feel like an ass

    So first off, yes I went back to the same club, and yes I saw the same girl again, but I just couldnt help it because we went into town to see a movie and the power went out at the theater just as we arrived. We rode around for awhile pretty pissed off, inevitably we drove past the strip club and were like "screw it lets go in." So we go in, and in all honesty I had my fingers crossed she wasnt there, but alas she was, and of course I bought a few dances. I told her I was only gonna spend X amount of money and she agreed she would not talk me into another. But right as the last song went off, my absolute FAVORITE song that always reminds me of a beautiful girl that I might never stand a chance with came on. I was like "Oh man this is my favorite song I swear to you, but dammit I cant get another one." She just smiled and laughed and said she'd give it to me free of charge.

    I was so happy and it was an awesome experience, to tell you the truth though, I totally said that in hopes she would do just that. Now I know this is how you all make a living, and I know your time/body + most mens loneliness = your money, but damnit I know that some of you (i.e this girl) make ALOT of money, and its not like one song will make or break you/her. But looking back at it I almost feel like a dick for doing it. Is it really that important? Probably not, but I hope she doesnt think I'm a jerk for accepting a free dance. What are your thoughts on this?

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    Default Re: Got a free dance, kinda feel like an ass

    You suggested, but she volunteered. Just go see her again and tip her well.

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    Default Re: Got a free dance, kinda feel like an ass

    Yek suggests a possible solution to salve your conscience, but if it were me, the moment I found myself 20-30 bucks ahead I would drop everthing else I was doing, rush back to the club and give the money to her. Think about it. Not only would you, in one act, absolve yourself of those uncomfortable guilt feelings, you would also be offering her clear affirmation that her time is actually worth something.

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    How about just graciously accept the gift in the spirit in which it was given?
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    Default Re: Got a free dance, kinda feel like an ass

    well.. it's true that one song won't usually make or break girls. but think of it in terms of another profession.. would a salesman of a different trade give things away for free? i personally wouldn't have done it, but if i did.. i might be trying to get a tip, vip, something.. i dont know. if i were you, i wouldnt have taken a free dance.

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    There are lots of things in life to feel guilty about. This is not one of them. It happens, don't make such a big deal out of it. Not everyone goes through life counting every minute of every day. Some of us for example work more than 40hrs a week, and don't get paid any extra for it. Really, the world doesn't stop spinning if a dancer gives a customer a free dance. If you really must clear your conscious, next time you see her (if there is a next time), tip here a sufficient amount more and say thanks again for the extra dance last time, that was cool. At least in Vegas, when the clubs are dead it's not uncommon for a dancer to throw in some freebies. There is a chance you'll come back another night and spend more on her because you recall she treated you well. It's just good business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    well.. it's true that one song won't usually make or break girls. but think of it in terms of another profession.. would a salesman of a different trade give things away for free? i personally wouldn't have done it, but if i did.. i might be trying to get a tip, vip, something.. i dont know. if i were you, i wouldnt have taken a free dance.
    Since it's my first post, I'm going to treat this seriously.

    Your question: Would a salesman of a different trade give things away for free?

    Answer: Every day, every time he thought it would benefit him. I purchase items from industial salesmen every day. They generally don't let a few hundred/thousand dollars (depending on total value) get in the way of making the sale. When they were allowed by my employer to take me to sporting events, fishing or hunting they were lined up begging.

    In this specific case, the OP is actually feeling guilt about getting a freebie after returning to the same club. What are the chances he turns this girl down the next time he walks in with a $100 burning a hole in his pocket? From my observations, 5 dances in 6 songs isn't chopped liver. As the dancer, obviously you get to decide if it works for you.

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    Default Re: Got a free dance, kinda feel like an ass

    So what was the damn song that led you to this "free" dance?

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    Default Re: Got a free dance, kinda feel like an ass

    I would only do that for my very good customers and here Im talking about BIG and REGULAR spenders that treat me well.

    Maybe she was just in a nice mood. I have spend extra time (not dancing) with men who I noticed were particularly down just coz my conscience wouldnt let me walk away straight after the dance.

    I think u should have accepted the dance and then given her a tip afterwards.

    What we earn is irrelevant to the situation. If we all gave away free dances all the time we would loose a lot of money. The customer would have to be worth it.

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    It's not really that big a deal. I've done it before for custies that I liked and spent a lot. No dancer should make a habit of it, but just be happy you got it and give her a good tip next time.

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    Default Re: Got a free dance, kinda feel like an ass

    There seems to be allot of these kind of threads...

    My expert opinion, I think she hates you now because you excepted a free dance. Your defintely are a bad person. You should send her flowers to make up for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stldwarf View Post
    Since it's my first post, I'm going to treat this seriously.

    Your question: Would a salesman of a different trade give things away for free?

    Answer: Every day, every time he thought it would benefit him. I purchase items from industial salesmen every day. They generally don't let a few hundred/thousand dollars (depending on total value) get in the way of making the sale. When they were allowed by my employer to take me to sporting events, fishing or hunting they were lined up begging.

    In this specific case, the OP is actually feeling guilt about getting a freebie after returning to the same club. What are the chances he turns this girl down the next time he walks in with a $100 burning a hole in his pocket? From my observations, 5 dances in 6 songs isn't chopped liver. As the dancer, obviously you get to decide if it works for you.
    well.. the free dance was done after she already got the others. so how is doing one more, free, good for her? i dunno, just my opinion. if it was a free one to get into vip or whatever, thats different. but a free dance after youve already done some and you know youre done? you dont give things away for free in this business.

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    Default Re: Got a free dance, kinda feel like an ass

    I got a freebie last night. Of course, that was after buying ten and this is from a gal I have a long business history with.

    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    well.. the free dance was done after she already got the others. so how is doing one more, free, good for her? i dunno, just my opinion. if it was a free one to get into vip or whatever, thats different. but a free dance after youve already done some and you know youre done? you dont give things away for free in this business.
    You really answered your own question. If he's a customer that she intends to see again, he's never exactly done. He can always bring in more money on another trip to see her again. Mainstream business give customers these kind of perks all the time, to help ensure their continued business.

    On a side note, I got a freebie last night.

    Of course, that was after buying ten dances and mind you this is from a gal I have a long business history with. Totally unexpected. And yes, while I would never insist on such perks in the future, that little gesture will be remembered.

    As to the OP's question, Mark if you're feeling that guilty about it, just tip her the equivalent of an extra song next time you're in. Good karma tends to be infectious.
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    Who knows what the dancer's motives were?

    I seem to remember that she and he got on well when they met in the past - maybe she was pleased to see him?

    Maybe she was trying to encourage him to visit again.

    Maybe she was just in a good mood.

    There's nothing in the rules to say a dancer has to be 100% money motivated.

    And there's nothing to say Mak couldn't go back with a little present of his own to say thanks. Chocolates or such like?

    Courtesy makes the world go round.

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    Don't sweat it, I'm sure it was half good customer service, half hustle. She treated you well by giving you a dance you obviously wanted but couldnt pay for, trusting that in the future you'll be kind to her in turn. I'm sure she didnt intend for you to feel so uncomfortable afterwards, just happy and grateful. Heck I get free donuts every time I go to dunkin donuts- I always tip well and never feel bad about it afterwards! Sounds like a nice girl




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    Quote Originally Posted by azdd View Post
    So what was the damn song that led you to this "free" dance?
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=ikUNPIiUoDA

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    A nice way to accept a "free" dance is to tip her say, half the price of it. No dancer does a "free" dance just for the hell of it - it's always in hopes of getting more money now or in future. But then, you kind of ruin the whole "free" thing if you go ahead and pay her full price for it. So, IMO tipping her half price is the perfect compromise - you don't walk away feeling cheap, and neither does she

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    well.. it's true that one song won't usually make or break girls. but think of it in terms of another profession.. would a salesman of a different trade give things away for free? i personally wouldn't have done it, but if i did.. i might be trying to get a tip, vip, something.. i dont know. if i were you, i wouldnt have taken a free dance.
    Sometimes, but then again nothing is free. Sometimes in any business you give a client something for "free". In reality, it is an investment in future sales/earnings so it is really not given away.

    I have had a fair number of dancers give me "free" dances. But I had already spent a decent amount on them, and they want to stay on my favorites list. They know I will be back and will spend more another time. It is another form of marketing. I will also state I have never "asked" for a free dance, nor would I.

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    It wasn't completely free--it was there to ensure future business, and there's nothing wrong with that. My ATFs never bother to count dances--and I don't ever try to short them. Focusing on the money too much takes the fun out of it, for both people. If she knows you're going to pay her what she's worth, you're both going to have a better time.

    If you click with her, just patronize her again. Don't put yourself into counseling over it.
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    I thought that song was about cocaine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilyLove View Post
    I thought that song was about cocaine?
    "Its such a rush, to know you love me so much"

    I think that line is the one that does it for me. Haha, line....

    But yes I know its about coke, and no I dont care.

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    The song is "Viva La White Girl" but Gym Class Heroes....

    Similar thing happened to me. I was at Oasis in Philly and had 5 laps dances. Then as we were walking to the Champagne , she said she only had to pay for 4 and gave me 20 back. we both had counted 5 but at Oasis, there is a person who is time the lap dances. EIther way after the Champagne, I tipped her 20 buck - the cost of the lap ... Pays to be honest!!!

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    She was trying to get inside your head... and she did.

    I have a Top 10 list of why you would get free lap dances. Maybe next month on the Blue Side.

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    Consider it a blessing dude and give her a little extra tip next time around. And ALWAYS remember to thank her when that happens.

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    i think you may have swindled her on the sly.

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