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    Default Need help clairvoying outcome of new, possibly retarded, policy*

    *Also might need help coming up with less verbose thread titles, but look, I'm in schoolwork mode. Anyway...

    Backstory: Haven't been into the club for a while; busy with school. New manager since I was there last.

    Current issue at hand: New policy of no housefee. Club takes $10 out of every $25 dance. I didn't ask about VIP; was too confused and astounded.

    Future possibilties: I go in tomorrow, ending a 2-month hiatus, and if it's intolerably slow (which I worry it will be... it's really hit or miss at this club) I leave, owing the house nothing. OR

    I go in tomorrow, it's busy *hooray*, but then I start working and feel like I'm being extorted and find myself sobbing at the end of the night when I realize 40% of my income has been skimmed off the top. Still have to tip out. Have tantrum, kick manager in shins, get arrested, miss finals, fail semester, don't graduate, flunk at life.


    Am I being overly pessimistic?
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    Default Re: Need help clairvoying outcome of new, possibly retarded, policy*

    I know girls that work at a club with the no house fee thing and $10 from every $25 dollar dance. I can't remember what the cut is for VIP's. what I an tell you is that from talking to girls and staff that work there is that this is only good if you sit on your ass and don't hustle. The girls that do dances and VIP's end up paying more out of pocket than when there were house fees.

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    ^^^You're in Richmond... I'm assuming that you're talking about girls at the Paper Moon up there. Gadzooks, are they doing this nonsense at every Paper Moon everywhere?

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    Well, the 40% cut is what happens at the club I work in up in Darwin. The cut is also what happens also at two local clubs here with quite a few more in Brisbane also working on the percentage/cut method.

    It is a dis-incentive for me to work hard I find because with a house fee I have a better chance overall in keeping most of my money thus naturally I am going to work so that my profit is high........................... whereas in all the percentage clubs I work in I find I am the lazy stripper because I don't want to the club to take a cut of my hard work (and thus I try to encourage people to tip me on stage or for my time on the floor).

    It really depends on whether or not you have the option of working elsewhere and what you find works better for you.

    ETA: I have to as in both Darwin and back home here I do private party bookings due to the fact that both clubs work percentage (take a cut of every private dance). Whereas in places where there is a set fee, I tend to stick to the strip club primarily. Interesting...
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    Default Re: Need help clairvoying outcome of new, possibly retarded, policy*

    The clubs in Sacramento have done something like this before, since those clubs suck. A sure sign to do more private show bookings.

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    Default Re: Need help clairvoying outcome of new, possibly retarded, policy*

    Quote Originally Posted by teeth_of_the_hydra View Post
    *Also might need help coming up with less verbose thread titles, but look, I'm in schoolwork mode. Anyway...

    Backstory: Haven't been into the club for a while; busy with school. New manager since I was there last.

    Current issue at hand: New policy of no housefee. Club takes $10 out of every $25 dance. I didn't ask about VIP; was too confused and astounded.

    Future possibilties: I go in tomorrow, ending a 2-month hiatus, and if it's intolerably slow (which I worry it will be... it's really hit or miss at this club) I leave, owing the house nothing. OR

    I go in tomorrow, it's busy *hooray*, but then I start working and feel like I'm being extorted and find myself sobbing at the end of the night when I realize 40% of my income has been skimmed off the top. Still have to tip out. Have tantrum, kick manager in shins, get arrested, miss finals, fail semester, don't graduate, flunk at life.


    Am I being overly pessimistic?


    I'm up in Tampa...Are you working at Cheetah? If so, pm me...I worked for Dennis...

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    Quote Originally Posted by teeth_of_the_hydra View Post
    ^^^You're in Richmond... I'm assuming that you're talking about girls at the Paper Moon up there. Gadzooks, are they doing this nonsense at every Paper Moon everywhere?
    Are you at the Moon in Sarasota? I didn't know that was the dal at all clubs, just in Richmond. The Moon in Richmond has always had some of th highest house fees in town. I worked there last year, the way I looked at it was what I was taking home, as long as that was good, the fees didn't bother me. I left when I was paying more than what I was taking home.

    I don't know how they do 2-4-1's there but they ran ALOT of them here. $25, $5 to the house. Then they started charging girls $5 even if you didn't sell one. That was it for me.

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    I always prefer to work at a club with flat fees, because the dance cut thing only punishes the girls who hustle and sell. Why would I work at a place like that?? Especially with the cut being so HIGH. I'd find a new club. Fuck that dance cut bullshit.

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    Oh, that blows. It would piss me off to no end if my club did that. Say you do 20 dances, which would normally net you 500-you would end up getting 300 with the club taking 200. Fuck that!! I'd be pissed too. Are there any other non-extorting clubs in your area where you can work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan-Va View Post
    Are you at the Moon in Sarasota? I didn't know that was the dal at all clubs, just in Richmond. The Moon in Richmond has always had some of th highest house fees in town. I worked there last year, the way I looked at it was what I was taking home, as long as that was good, the fees didn't bother me. I left when I was paying more than what I was taking home.

    I don't know how they do 2-4-1's there but they ran ALOT of them here. $25, $5 to the house. Then they started charging girls $5 even if you didn't sell one. That was it for me.
    Paper Moon has always had some of the highest house fees in town, and they run too many 2-4-1s, totally. But I've always liked working there for a few stupid reasons, one of them being insecurity. The girls at the Moon here are kind of medium-caliber, and it was nice being a big fish in a small pond. And for a while management let me do pretty much whatever I wanted, so I could leave for a month and write all my papers and know I could just waltz back in there whenever I pleased, even if I had gained 5 lbs or something.

    But the money has pretty much sucked this year, which is why I haven't gone into work in a while... it's so disheartening. As I chose to focus on school and my other job, I kind of let myself go. I need a haircut, some new makeup and about 2000 crunches. I don't feel like a high-caliber club girl, which makes audtioning somewhere else so nerve wracking.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    I always prefer to work at a club with flat fees, because the dance cut thing only punishes the girls who hustle and sell. Why would I work at a place like that?? Especially with the cut being so HIGH. I'd find a new club. Fuck that dance cut bullshit.

    You're right. I appreciate you corroborating my theory that this dance cut was bullshit. Maybe I won't go in tonight and I'll write my paper instead and go visit clubs tomorrow so I can avoid auditioning on a Saturday.

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    ^I am sure you can find a better place to work, even if you're gained a little. I mean, even if I'd only get say, 15 dances at club A vs club B where I might get 20 but I'd end up with same money after the high dance cuts at club B. Why work harder just to give the club more money??

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    ^^^Yeah that's the idea. The very notion of not just a club, but a corporation ('cause Paper Moon's a chain) culling that much of my earnings makes me seethe.

    Thanks for the vote of confidence, B. I just tanned and did my toenails so I feel a little bit more like Chloe the Hot Chick, not Teeth the Nerd.

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