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    Default Re: Teaching your kids to speak English?

    No, you're right. Guess what??, she was probably high!

    No matter how hard she tries, those kids are going to learn English despite her! Its 2007, there ain't that much Telemundo/Univision in the world!
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    She was probably just drunk and spouting nonsense. My sister-in-law tried that exact same child rearing technique, and it completely backfired. Her kid has completely rejected their German heritage and refuses to speak any German, ever. She even ignores her mom when she is speaking in German to her daughter.

    I have a Mexican friend that is the same way. She won't even eat Mexican food! (Her parents were immigrants)


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    She was high, you were sane. & If she pays attention to World Events, being a marginalized Puerto Rican is the LAST thing she wants her kids to be.

    My parents made us learn English first because they didn't want us to suffer the same discrimination & hardship they faced as immigrants in the 1970's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Jade View Post
    That's what I was thinking! My parents came to the US in the late 70s and when they had me, they wanted me to learn English. Unfortunately, they didn't know much themselves. They would sit me down with Sesame Street every day so I could learn to speak and understand English, and when I got older, I was teaching them to speak and read. My father didn't really pick it up well, but my mother did. She is so unbelievably proud that I was reading before the other kids and that I can speak English without an accent. She cried when I went to college because I'm the first in my family to do have a high school diploma and the first to go to and graduate college. I am very in touch with my Chinese heritage. I speak and understand the language (reading and writing is a whole different story), practice a lot of the customs, and embrace my heritage. They never forced it on me, it was just all they knew - but they never denied me the opportunities in America that were available. I couldn't imagine living here, working here, and raising a family here without being able to understand what people were saying to me!
    Not to get too sentimental here, but this is a terrifically sweet and moving mom story. You sound like you have a pair of very culturally sensitive parents, who made sure that you knew what you needed to know to be a well-balanced person. And stories of moms crying of proudness always makes me mush out a little.

    But back to the topic at hand. I don't think anything is wrong with speaking another language at home; it's the idea of English sucking that is doing a huge disservice to your neighbor's kids. I am in no way trying to assert that ENGLISH IS THE BEST LANGUAGE or AMERICA IS THE ROCKINGEST COUNTRY... I am simply saying (and it seems like you feel this way too) that in order to survive socioecomically in a country where the national language is English, you have to speak English. It's crucial to be able to read English, it helps to speak English as properly as possible, and it's a great idea to write English fluently and correctly. And if your neighbor wants to make sure her kids grow up speaking Spanish, that's not so hard to do. She can speak Spanish to them, and her husband can speak English to them. They can watch both Spanish TV and English TV. They can read both Spanish and English picture books. Lots of kids are exposed to 2 languages early in life and enter school completely fluent in both. It's a great thing, so long as the proper balance between the 2 is preserved.

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    They will learn English anyway and will know 2 languages . Judging from yoru post about the mom , this will be good ( since they can probably use any possible angle to get ahead in life ). ~ C

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Jade View Post
    Then she goes off on how no matter what they do they'll never be accepted into society anyway since they're not white, so she wants to raise them purely Puerto Rican and not teach them English, etc
    Oh Jesus, no they're not. If she's going to raise them with that stupid mentality.

    And she really doesn't have to teach them English(although she should), bc they're going to learn it in school anyway. But um, hello in the US you have to speak English! Grrrrr. How is she going to avoid that? It's not going to kill her proud heritage, give me a break.

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    She is a fucking idiot. I would stridently avoid conversation with her. Speaking with her can only serve to bring you down.

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    Wow..if she feels THAT strongly ...why not just move her ass back to PR?? Obviously she hates teh US and feels that the US hates her too....


    psycho...yeah..she going to have kids who are afraid to bring friends home..

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    lj,
    ditto what everyone (including yourself) said. i'm chinese and actually english is my 2nd language even though i was born here (native ny'er). my brothers and i learned chinese at home first, being with mom all day and then school taught us english.

    your wacko neighbor wants to preserve her cultural? fine. but the kids are going to learn english no matter what she says unless she sequesters them completley (not entirely unheard of unfortunately). but guess what? she lives in the US, then sprechen zee english, puhlleeeze! jeebus!

    if we were to go to france, you're expected to learn some of the native tongue (no pun intended). i dislike it when people come here (my parents included) and don't make the true effort to learn to integrate. if you didn't want to integrate, then you shouldn't have immigrated.

    don't get me wrong, i embrace my rich history and culture. in fact, my daughters are in chinese school as i type this. but they're going to be integrated because they're going to live in the US (most likely). for me, it's a question of courtesy to your host country or adopted homeland.

    there are obvious economic and social reasons too. but to purposefully try and block out the culture and language of the country you're residing in? 'wacko' might be too lenient of a term. how the hell are her kids going to even function in most circumstances here? ideeot.

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    That lady is nuts, and you're totally normal. This is America, and even if she doesn't like it, her kids will end up learning English, one way or the other.

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    Hell..they speak English IN Puerto Rico. I've known several people who grew up there and learned english before they came to the US...it IS a US territory...


    Yeah...just when I think the level of stupidity and ignorance cant get any lower.....someone out there just goes ahead and digs a big old tunnel underneath...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Jade View Post
    I won't even get started about the crap she was spewing about her father's illegitimate children not being "real" because they're parents weren't married...
    So what are they? imaginary?

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    That means she needs counceling. LOL

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    Wow...you got one hell of an introduction. It really would have wasted a lot less time if she had just come up and said "Hi...my name is crazy"

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    Hahaha, you know what this reminds me of? You know Dave Chappelle's character Clayton Bigsby, the black white supremacist? After he found out that he was black, he divorced his wife of 20 years because she was "A n*gger lover."

    That reminds me of that lady. Her kids are half white, but she hates whites that much? Yeesh. My friend's mom is the same way too. She's Japanese, married a white guy, and my friend is half, but she HATES whites. She's probably still bitter about her husband leaving her crazy ass because she was so batshit insane.

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    Wait, she doesn't even have the rug rats yet?? WTF!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaRose View Post
    Wait, she doesn't even have the rug rats yet?? WTF!!
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    that chappelle is a frickin' genius! that bit is soooo appropriate here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Jade View Post
    Nope, no kids yet, but she's planning on having 'em.
    Oh good..please let her have dozens...those are genes we need more of in the world...

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    She had pudding pops at 2am and was speaking gibberish and you didn't think she could be high?!

    Hello... PUDDING POPS AT TWO AM!



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    ^^..I miss pudding pops....they were so yummy

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    I live in Texas, which is full of people who can't be bothered to speak the official language. When I go traveling, I'll have a bilingual dictionary and a Berlitz manual on me at all times. I also don't expect people to speak my language. Hello, I'm in another country. Also, I was in China for 6 weeks and managed to pick up some important phrases. I don't know how someone can be in a foreign country for years and still not know jack shit. Yes, there are areas that are highly populated so that you never have to know the new language, but how can you not at least learn survival phrases?

    People who don't speak English annoy me, but the ones who really piss me off are the ones who make no effort whatsoever to communicate. For example, I was in clinicals, taking care of a woman who had been in the States for 10 years and hadn't learned English. I was using my broken Spanish to try to communicate with her. She couldn't even make the effort to talk more slowly. Even though I had established that my Spanish sucked, she thought that talking MORE LOUDLY or more rapidly would make me understand. What really got my goat was the fact that she could dumb things down for her son. I could understand the baby-talk she was using with her son. Why couldn't she simply things for me, especially after I asked her to do so in Spanish? There are a lot of egocentric people like this. I don't begrudge them for not learning English, as they're in the hospital and it can't be helped at the time. However, the fact that they won't make any fucking efforts while I'm busting my ass trying to remember irregular verb conjugations gives me no pity whatsoever for them.

    That woman is a nutcase. She' sounds like she hates America so much that she's trying to create her own little utopia by having kids, who have no choice to be under her dominion. I'd flat out tell her that if she hates it so much here, then she should go back. It's not racist, it's pointing out the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatshepsut View Post
    I live in Texas, which is full of people who can't be bothered to speak the official language. When I go traveling, I'll have a bilingual dictionary and a Berlitz manual on me at all times. I also don't expect people to speak my language. Hello, I'm in another country. Also, I was in China for 6 weeks and managed to pick up some important phrases. I don't know how someone can be in a foreign country for years and still not know jack shit. Yes, there are areas that are highly populated so that you never have to know the new language, but how can you not at least learn survival phrases?
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    Man, Chinese is haarrrddd... the only thing I can say in Chinese is 'Can you please help me find my report card'. Yeah.

    But you're right about the whole IT GOES BOTH WAYS things. Mermaid can tell you how many people she saw in Japan that refused to learn Japanese.

    So remember folks, when going to another country, remember your books. It's rude the other way around too.


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    Lady Jade, it is your civic duty to ensure that this whackjob does not breed. Sneak a mickey into her Haagen Dazs next time you see her, and perform a quick tubal ligation. For extra safety, snip his tubes and cauterize them.

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    ^^^^agreed, that particular gene pool needs more chlorine.

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