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    Sorry this is so long, but what would you do in this situation?

    A friend of mine hooked me up with the job at my first club. She was very supportive of me getting into dancing and has been an overall good friend. But, I quickly realised that shes also prostituting. A lot of times, she'd come into the club, pick up a john at the bar, and just leave. Or she'd poach customers buying dances from the club, end her shift early, and go fuck them. A lot of times, she blatantly tells guys that if they buy X many dances from her, she'll go home with them - which she does. Naturally, a lot of guys take her up on this offer.

    Shes a drug adict, and so is her unemployed boyfriend. Their drug habit alone costs her about $3,000.00 a month. And as an adict she can hardly complete even a 3 hour shift - which is why she'd rather fuck a customer for 10 minutes to make the same amount of $$$. You can't look at her and tell shes an adict though - she isn't too skinny, doesn't have track marks, etc.

    A LOT of girls at this first club have probloms with her and her bad ethics, to the point that some outright refuse to work on the same shift as her. She gets complained about there more than anyone else.

    Needless to say I had to get away! So I moved on to my 2nd club.

    This club used to be one of the best, then took a baaaad turn, but is in the midst of revamping. Now it's about 50% classy girls and 50% ghetto/white trash girls. The owners long term goal is to get rid of all the ghetto girls and restore the club to it's original upscale state. The club is very eager to hire pretty, classy looking girls!

    I got hired on the spot and start BANKING, making more than double what I did at the first club. Meanwhile, my friend was struggling to make $100.00 from dancing and was doing more and more prostituting to compensate.

    I hid that I was making $$$ from her because I didn't want her working alongside me - aka poaching customers for her prostituting at MY club!

    Well, I've been home sick this week, and today I get a call from her. Turns out she came to my club as a customer on Monday and management begged her to come work for them.

    Now shes banking at my club, but is still up to her old tricks and, well, ending her shifts early to pull tricks with customers!

    She's already gotten in 3 fights so far, but because the girls were 'ghetto', and shes pretty (and APPEARS to be classy), management automatically took her side and fired those girls.

    To get in good with the staff, she tipped everyone out more than triple the minimum, and even offered to pay a $100 house fee, when our house is only $30.00. So now management thinks shes a godsend, one of the classy girls they *think* will turn the place around. Ha!

    I'm going to switch my scedule around to avoid working with her as much as possible, but frankly, I don't want to work with her at all!! I just know that it's a short matter of time before she starts hurting my business and fucking my regulars.

    So should I have a talk with management about this? Would they even believe me, or will they just dismiss it as jealousy? Or should I just move on to yet another club?
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    I don't blame you for not wanting to work with this girl. You're in a very tough situation. I doubt management will believe you if you tell them, either- it suits them to have a classy-looking girl who pays extra fees over and above what's required. What I would do would be to try and avoid doing shifts with her or, where that's not possible, to take steps to minimise her effect on your earnings and distancing yourself from her in general. If this fails, unfair as it may seem, you may well have to find another club.

    The other thing you could do is have a chat to your 'friend' about how her behaviour in the club affects you and asking her to modify it, at least in so far as it has an adverse effect on your earnings. She might not listen- in fact being a drug addict and likely a desperate person she probably won't- but it's possible that you will get her to make some sort of change. You never know unless you try.

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    Yeah, it's the $$$ issue that works against me more than anything in this situation I think. I'm afraid they'll keep her JUST because shes tipping out more.

    I don't know that theres much I can do to minimise her effect on my earnings if I work alongside her since we're both pale brunettes with a similar look and people sometimes think we're related. But.... shes the one who lets custmers suck on her tits and even french kisses them : (. Not to mention the other services she offers.

    I know that if I tried to talk to her about it she would just flip out since she's very bi-polar. *sigh*

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    Oh thats a tough one.
    My guess is that she wont keep tipping out more than nessesary for long. Shes an addict and its quite likely that if she is regularly making more money than usual her and her boyfriend will just buy more drugs and end up with a bigger habit to support and sooner or later somethings going to give.
    Whats your club management like? If theyre on the ball and really wanting to clean the place up surely someone else would have complained and surely theyed have looked into the problem?If theyre really crap management just be careful what you say because you dont want it coming back on you in a bad way. Meantime I think you should limit your friendship with her as much as you can, dont work alongside her just do your own thing.

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    I think I'm gonna suck it up and at least talk to the owner about it. To make herself sound good, she lied and said she came from Skin, one of the best clubs in our area. But in reality, Skin fired her on the first day, and that was over a year ago!

    Instead shes one of the biggest 'extras girls' at a club that has a bad rep. in town. You know theres a problom when the dancers at a club known for it's extras are complaining about HER dirty dancing... I think that once he realises this, he might view her differently. We'll see.

    You make a really good point about the increase in drug use factor. That makes me all the more worried, she'll just get more and more desperate and conduct more and more bad business.

    Shes too new to the club for anyone to know what her real probloms are, so her rep. as a junkie hooker hasn't caught up with her yet.

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    At least your problem is easy to see and identify. I've heard of a girl in NYC, she also posts on SW alot, and she claims to be the cleanest dancer, won't work with girls who do extras, but in reality, she posts everyday on CL and will meet the best custies directly at a hotel without even making them come to the club and that way no one at the club suspects she doing extras OTC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dollyrocker View Post
    Shes too new to the club for anyone to know what her real probloms are, so her rep. as a junkie hooker hasn't caught up with her yet.
    ...then you should wait until you know a few other girls will backup your story. Otherwise, unless you are one of the known trustworthy club favs, you may be just "one of those jealous complainers" in their eyes.
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    I'd just avoid her and her problems for a little while - it usually doesn't take long for shit like that to become obvious to everybody. When it does, the problem may solve itself - or the other girls might solve it for you by complaining and then you don't have to be involved. Or, wait to say something for a little while until other people have seen the truth as well.
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    Wow... that's... just unreal. What a bad situation! I would have a very hush-hush talk with management... Don't tell them to fire her.. Tell them to keep their radar up. You're pretty and you said you bank so they most likely won't think it's a jealousy thing. I can definately see them firing the ugly girls if they got in a fight... it's a great excuse to get rid of them. However, I'm sure they don't want ot lose YOU over a prostitute (even if she's a cute prostitute).

    Definately avoid her. You don't want her trying to buddy up with you.

    Does she bring her drugs to work? You could let someone know and hope she gets fired...
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    Im so sorry this must totally suck for you.If I was you I would work at another club part time that way if you decide to completely quit your currant club you can tell all your custies where your at.Plus if your trying to aviod working with that hobag its gonna be alot easier if your only there part time.During your shifts at your currant club tell your custies that your working at such and such club on whatever night and you want them to come see you.Thats what Ive done when I decide ive had enoungh.

    Good luck and stay beautiful

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    What a sticky situation. Sorry. I don't think that this friendship is healthy and I think you should start trying to back out of it... changing your schedule would be a great idea I think. And even though she supports you stripping I dont think that's enough to warrant keeping this friendship. I would not talk to her about her behavior because 1) I doubt she'll listen and 2) when she does get fired she will probably blame you which will could cause all sorts of problems, esp because you two know each other otc.

    Would it be at all possible to put in an anonymous note or letter or anything saying what she's up to. Something like "To whom it may concern, I am concerned about one of your dancers. I have come in regularly for the past 2 months as you have been attempting to make the club more upscale again. I used to come in more often until around (date it started to go down hill) and really enjoyed myself. But recently there is a girl named blah blah blah I think she is an extras girl, based on my experience and how I've seen her act toward other customers... honestly if she were my type I would take her up. She has approached me multiple times implying that she is willing to meet otc for paid sex. I don't know if you care about this sort of behavior, but I thought I'd give you a heads up if you do frown upon it. Keep an eye out, she seems to be classy but my suspicions are that she's running a whole different business otc. Thank you for your time - Concerned Customer" That way you're not involved and the management has been notified. That is unless the other girls dont start complaining. At your old club did she bring any works to work, leave anything around? Do you think she will do the same here at your new club? I dont know if that was of any help, but I tried. This is difficult.
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    Tell her you can't be friends anymore because: 1. She is a drug user and you are uncomfortable around that activity. 2. She is making it difficult for you to earn $ at your job by breaking the rules. 3. She is contributing to an unsafe work environment for everyone.
    Tell her you want her to get help. DO NOT work shifts with her. She may flip out on you, so be prepared for that. Stick it out at this club unless it becomes unbearable. You simply CANNOT be friends with people like this. It will end up having a severely negative effedt on your life! Trust me, I've been there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minette View Post
    I'd just avoid her and her problems for a little while - it usually doesn't take long for shit like that to become obvious to everybody. When it does, the problem may solve itself - or the other girls might solve it for you by complaining and then you don't have to be involved. Or, wait to say something for a little while until other people have seen the truth as well.
    See, I'm worried that it won't be obvious to others. The first club she was at is sooooo small;the dance arena had regular chairs and was the size of a small studio apartment at best - so everything was out in the open. But this new club is much bigger and has private dance couches, a champagne room, and v.i.p. , so it's much easier to sneak around. People usually don't overhear your business as this club.

    So I'm afraid that it would take a long time before anyone caught on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bella21 View Post
    Wow... that's... just unreal. What a bad situation! I would have a very hush-hush talk with management... Don't tell them to fire her.. Tell them to keep their radar up. You're pretty and you said you bank so they most likely won't think it's a jealousy thing. I can definately see them firing the ugly girls if they got in a fight... it's a great excuse to get rid of them. However, I'm sure they don't want ot lose YOU over a prostitute (even if she's a cute prostitute).

    Definately avoid her. You don't want her trying to buddy up with you.

    Does she bring her drugs to work? You could let someone know and hope she gets fired...
    Yeah, a hush-hush talk is what I've been thinking of doing. If I approach it from an 'it's either her or me' angle it'll sound like jealously. But *hopefully* the owner will understand that I genuinely have everyones best interest in mind by wanting to say something.....

    She doesn't bring her drugs to work.

    She wants me to come work the same shifts with her so she'll have a buddy, since she tends to get hated fast by other girls for starting other petty drama. But I don't want this association interfering with my money! And I can't imagine making much money alongside a hooker anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette View Post

    Would it be at all possible to put in an anonymous note or letter or anything saying what she's up to. Something like "To whom it may concern, I am concerned about one of your dancers. I have come in regularly for the past 2 months as you have been attempting to make the club more upscale again. I used to come in more often until around (date it started to go down hill) and really enjoyed myself. But recently there is a girl named blah blah blah I think she is an extras girl, based on my experience and how I've seen her act toward other customers... honestly if she were my type I would take her up. She has approached me multiple times implying that she is willing to meet otc for paid sex. I don't know if you care about this sort of behavior, but I thought I'd give you a heads up if you do frown upon it. Keep an eye out, she seems to be classy but my suspicions are that she's running a whole different business otc. Thank you for your time - Concerned Customer" That way you're not involved and the management has been notified. That is unless the other girls dont start complaining. At your old club did she bring any works to work, leave anything around? Do you think she will do the same here at your new club? I dont know if that was of any help, but I tried. This is difficult.
    Interesting idea.......

    I think I'd feel a bit uneasy with this one though. While it's great in theory the thought of posing as someone else just doesn't appeal to me. I'm thinking of just giving the owner a heads up, in a hush hush sorta way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hearts View Post
    Tell her you can't be friends anymore because: 1. She is a drug user and you are uncomfortable around that activity. 2. She is making it difficult for you to earn $ at your job by breaking the rules. 3. She is contributing to an unsafe work environment for everyone.
    Tell her you want her to get help. DO NOT work shifts with her. She may flip out on you, so be prepared for that. Stick it out at this club unless it becomes unbearable. You simply CANNOT be friends with people like this. It will end up having a severely negative effedt on your life! Trust me, I've been there!
    You're right. She's been a very loyal friend to me and I feel bad for that, but theres potential danger in being associated with her and I really should distance myself. At our old club, one of her johns would try to get me to call her on their behalf (the fool didn't even have his own phone, ha!). Other johns would drop in at random and when realising she wasn't there, would attempt to pick me up as a hooker instead, etc. etc. This could cause a serious legal problom for me, I don't want to be busted as an accessory to this kind of crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseLeigh View Post
    Ew. I worked and lived with a girl like this. Half our mutual friends think her ass is gold b/c she always has money to lend and tells people what they want to hear. Claims to have been a feature, looks pretty, seems to be a good mom-it's all crap. Stay as far away as you can, 'cause they'll drag you down. I moved and lost a bunch of my friends b/c of her.

    I like the idea of an anonymous note or mentioning you saw her leave with a custy if she leaves early in her shift. Seriously, it's shifty, but if management is honestly trying to shape it up, they'll listen.

    Rose
    I really, really hope so. Shes smart enough not to leave WITH a customer. Instead she tells them to meet her at some other public place or worse yet.... has them meet her at her own apartment. She'll have her boyfriend leave the apt. and tells him she's just giving the guy a 'private dance'.

    *sigh* Life would be so much easier if she were sloppier in her actions!

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    I like te way you individually responded to people. The posing as someone else I can see bothering you, but you could always write it as your self say something like "I dont want this to come off as a jealousy thing but I tink you should know x,y, and z about blah blah blah. i worked with her previously and she did not come from Skin, she came from yadda yadda, this is managements # and name, give them a call, they'll tell you about everything I'm mentioning here. I dont want to cause trouble, but I do no feel comfortable working with her and I think she will be bad for the business of other dancers and the ability for this club to be one of the classly clubs again. thanks for takinng a minute to listen - concerned dancer"

    Sorry I'm just a really big fan of dont let it come back to you if you're going to rock the boat. It seems like this place is working well for you with the exception of blah blah blah and it would be a shame if you got fired or looked down upon because you're questioning their new golden girl... that's all.
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    That sounds much better to me. I have a LOT to tell them about this girl and by sending a letter I'd be sure to make every point.

    Theres no way anyone else there would have that info, so if it came back to her in any way theres no way I can deny it. Oh well though. Business first.

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    please let us know what you do and how it goes, I'm very interested. and please please be careful!!

    If you do write a letter you could let them know that you are concerned about keeping your identity safe because she knows you otc and you're worried about her acting dangerously toward you. Tell them you really like this club and will be really dissapointed if you have to leave because they are unwilling to investigate this or because you are scared for your own safety. but if you write a letter I'd suggest asking for different hours and telling them you're taking a class or something that requires you to change before sending it... just my thoughts.
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    You're so right.

    And he's in denial, but definately knows the truth. It just boils down to them loving dope more than loving themselves or each other. Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette View Post
    please let us know what you do and how it goes, I'm very interested. and please please be careful!!

    If you do write a letter you could let them know that you are concerned about keeping your identity safe because she knows you otc and you're worried about her acting dangerously toward you. Tell them you really like this club and will be really dissapointed if you have to leave because they are unwilling to investigate this or because you are scared for your own safety. but if you write a letter I'd suggest asking for different hours and telling them you're taking a class or something that requires you to change before sending it... just my thoughts.
    All great ideas. Thanks so much for your concern. I'll keep you posted.

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    you know... another option, really shittty to do if she's a friend but you could always break the code and call the cops. I dont know the extent of your friendhip but I wouldn't think she'd think it was you - why would you in her eyes? and then 1)she's dealing with cops and not customers and 2) the club will probably be suspitious if she is not showing up for work. I'm sure you could either tip them off about drug use or tell them her stage name and ask them to bust her for hooking. but this is if you're ready to let go of that friendship and get her out of the club. potentially this will help her kick dope, but I doubt it... either way thats a much more serious decision as it will involve jail for her at least... just something I thought I'm not trying to be a dick either, just you gotta take care of you first and foremost.
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    Does vice act on a tip alone, or do they require some soild proof? Would they actually go out of their way just to bust a single person?!?

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    Why don't you go to a club where they don't put up with that shit??

    I don't think calling the cops on her is a good idea. It could create a lot of problems for your club.

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