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    I come here for support and advice regarding how to succeed as best I can in this business while i'm in it. Generally, the information shared--especially in hustle hut--is beneficial.

    But every single day on here I am exposed to a ton of negative thinking about how great this industry used to be and how it's all going to hell, hookers are taking over and the end times are upon us. This doom-and-gloom attitude is impossible to avoid on SW.

    You may be right. But what are you accomplishing by repeating over and over ad nauseum how horrible things are and how it will never get any better?

    If you have any faith whatsoever in the law of attraction, positive thinking, etc. then you should clearly see that negativity accomplishes nothing positive and only discourages those who are currently trying to make the best of their circumstances and improve their lives.

    I get it. I could have made $1000 every night in 1984. But I was four. I could have made double what I make just 5 years ago. But it's NOW. I'm young and hot and make great money. I have many more good money-making years ahead of me.

    Can I get an AMEN?!

    Edited to add: I understand we gotta vent sometimes, but all I ask is that before you hit that "post" button, think about what it's going to accomplish for yourself and for hundreds of other women out there trying to make a living.
    Last edited by Dottie Rebel; 05-05-2007 at 12:58 PM.

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    Fuck yeah! I couldn't agree more.
    "We all must suffer from one of two pains: the pain of discipline or the pain of regret. The difference is discipline weighs ounces while regret weighs tons. In order to achieve what others don't, you have to do what others won't."


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    hmmmmm.....

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    thank you!!!!!!

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    I agree, although the last time I said work was good a few posters here and there gave me shit for making a grand a night , and were ..for the lack of a better word ..assholes about it. And were more than willing to bring it up when I said I was burnt out..how dare i be burnt out at a grand a night... damnit it gets tiring hustling. a grand just doesn't land on you nightly you have to earn it! But it seems sometimes on here ( and not a majority..most are happy when we all do well. ) get pissy and snide when girls really do make between 500-1000 a night.

    But back to the OP lol. Sorry that shit before upset me that people were hatin' pricks about me getting burnt out even though the money was there. Jesus H christ, I have a soul I gotta maintain you know.

    The business isn't all "that" bad., as you said. However but attitudes of most of the dancers are! and they are quick to say " no its the customers" ...well either they are projecting something that causes them to attract these kinds or they need to switch clubs. Or possibly just fucking quit. Sometimes people aren't cut out for this job. And like any seasoned girl knows, it goes in spurts. there are SLOW seasons! prepare for them ( although none of us truly do lol )

    there is money to be earned in almost all clubs. But it's about motivation and STOP BITCHING, or convincing yourself " im not going to make more than 100 tonight ". Honestly its pretty easy to have a good career in dancing.

    simple rules.

    Dont overstay your welcome with customers
    Dont be afraid to ask for a tip for your time. the worst you'll get is a no
    Dont get involved with a click
    Dont go there for social hour
    Do go in with the mentality that you are going to make your goal
    Do smile while walking around
    DO realize you aren't stuck at that club.
    Do remember you make more than most people do
    Do remember you'll get em' tomorrow if you didnt' get em' today.

    Oh and rent is due every month for those that seem to make a ton the first week of the month, blow it then cry about it the next 3 weeks. God Im going to make this my slogan! haha.

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    I have been guilty of this.

    Thank you, DR, for reminding me that a positive attitude is the most important factor in success, in any business.
    You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
    Friedrich Nietzsche

    Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
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    not talking about it can do more damage than the possibility of irritating some people by posting it. i know people post rants frequently, but i posted -one- "burn out" post in the last 2 years. most of the girls on here have only started one or two posts of the same context. no offense, but if you don't like them, don't read them. also there is a diff between "constant negative thinking" and being burned out or having a really difficult period of time. most of us understand the power of thinking positive. it is just impossible to do it 100% of the time.

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    Okay I use SW as an outlet, it lets me vent about my job as well as rave. I have had some 'burnt out' posts.. I have also had many many many many more 'im so excited' posts.

    I agree with you though about being sick of hearing how great the industry 'used to be'. I am so sick of hearing how the girls used to be hotter and the girls used to work harder and there was more money. Yes im aware that 5 years ago I would never have been a feature, but this isnt 5 years ago, this is now. *grumble*

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    ^ I dont think she was singling you out hon. ( damnit I meant this for penny but cally posted before me lol ) Or even the burnt out posts. I think it was more just the constant FUCK THIS PLACE posts that a lot of people make. And only make.

    Im one with constant sanity issues so I shouldn't talk, but there are girls on here that it's a consistant whoa is me, I never make money , no one likes me and Im dying of sars that I caught from a customer

    Or that people dont try and see it's not always all bad. Burn out is one thing but hating your job is another. I think most of us know that

    5 or 10 years ago was great easy money but um., most those chicks including myself didnt save lol so here we are. I think things have changed some for the better and some for the worse but what can you really do? Nothing.

    gotta make it the best you can and just worry about your own hot ass.

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    You're right, Tart. I was not singling anyone out. In fact, Penny, I read your post and sympathized. I wasn't really referring to "burnt out" posts--that's a WHOLE other issue.

    In fact, I wasn't even really thinking of OPs. What I keep seeing is OPs posting that they're burnt out, that the money sucks, hookers, etc. and instead of seeing practical, useful advice, I see post after post echoing how bad the industry sucks and how it's only going to get worse.

    That doesn't help anyone who wants to learn how to improve her money-making potential in this industry. All is does is bring everyone down. WE KNOW the industry has changed and continues to change. I'm sure ladies in the 80s were horrified at the advent of lap dances and longed for their "good ol' days." Times change. You can't avoid that. It's how you react to that change that determines whether you will succeed or fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dottie Rebel View Post
    Times change. You can't avoid that. It's how you react to that change that determines whether you will succeed or fail.
    thank you for that. that was what i needed to hear before i go to work tonight.

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    Everyone has to keep in mind Stripperweb is one of the few forums we have to vent about a marginalized occupation...Trying to confide in anyone else will result in getting backstabbed at work or verbally bitchslapped as a "whiny whore." YEP if anything, stripping will give you a clear lense on life...& It's hard to swallow.

    (PS Always remember, your posts here can be used against you...I've been busted & I'm pretty careful. Beware.)

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    ^ yep me too as far as mine being used against me. However, Dottie is right and so is everyone else.

    When someone new comes on here and rants about how they don't feel cut out for this , that they aren't making money and that everyone wants to bang them rather than get a dance.. a LOT of girls on here just call the customers assholes and what not and go on about how it is like that now but wasn't bck then.

    Yes it was, it was like that back then. Although a LOT has changed because society as an entire has changed.

    While it's great we have this forum , I agree with dottie that we should be giving constructive advice and a lil sarcasm instead of worthless banter about 20 years ago , everyone is a dirty whore and just hate the girls and do your job.

    Know what i mean? When I write this I can't think of a single person that this would apply to so im not posting this towards anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaxine View Post

    (PS Always remember, your posts here can be used against you...I've been busted & I'm pretty careful. Beware.)
    Oh, yeah. I'm fully aware the SW Police will pounce the instant I post anything the least big negative or ranty. But they will have missed my point, so I'm not really concerned with them.

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    I just want to add, that I fully understand the value of the site as a tool for marginalized workers to commisserate and feel a sense of comraderie. I really do. If you need to get something out and you feel that a rant post on here will benefit you emotionally, then by all means, do it!! I just feel there is a lot of wanton negativity at times, which is why I simply suggested thinking before posting. That doesn't mean I think every post should be sweetness and light. Hell no. We are strippers, after all

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    You're totally right about how important it is to stay positive! We all need to vent though, and sometimes need to get 2nd opinions about sticky situations.

    I think we need a designated board for rants to go under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dottie Rebel View Post
    Oh, yeah. I'm fully aware the SW Police will pounce the instant I post anything the least big negative or ranty. But they will have missed my point, so I'm not really concerned with them.
    On no, I meant people in your OTC life. I got busted for something one of my in-laws Googled & it popped up from here. Big stupid stink.

    & I have worked with a couple people who post here....People talk, "is all's I'm saying."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dollyrocker View Post
    I think we need a designated board for rants to go under.

    Me too. I think that would help those of us who would rather avoid negative threads, rather than having them all on the main page. And when we are feeling crappy and want to bitch, we have a forum to do that in where it won't bog down those who are feeling good.

    I don't do a whole lot of bitching about my job. I chose it and I continue to choose it this many years later. It's good money and the work is something I enjoy. And as a matter of fact, I do better now than ever before, and to me that is proof that today can be just as good as yesterday, if not better.
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    DR, thank you so much. This was an excellent and very necessary post. I'm grateful for my job and look at it as an opportunity. Sorry, but I think anyone who doesn't should look elsewhere. Yes, we have to put up with a lot, but we have so many pluses as opposed to the minuses... we all need to take a step back and look at what we COULd be doing besides dancing, especially the younger girls... or those of us without degrees. I fall into both of these categories, at least until I graduate... dancing allows me to do so much. A positive attitude is everything.

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    Just my two cents here:

    A woman in her mid 40s came into my club with her husband. She told me that she used to dance back in the early 80s/early 90s and that the industry as she saw it really hadn't changed that much. Some girls were nasty, some were classy, some made money, some didn't.

    Also, another thing to ponder: In her book, How to Make Love Like a Porn Star, Jenna Jameson said that in the early 90s when she was dancing the average stripper only made between 300-400 dollars a night.

    My point with this is: The industry is probably much the same as it has always been - I've started dancing 9 years ago and I haven't seen it change all that much. What I have seen change is my perception of the industry; when I was new I didn't notice things or was too naive to see what was really going on. I also thought that $500 was A LOT of money so what I made seemed like much more to me. OMGOD! I made $2000 this week!!! Now I take that sort of money for granted and have much higher goals.

    Venting is good, everyone needs to do that sometimes and this should be a safe place to do that - God knows we don't always get the support we need elsewhere. But I agree with Dottie Rebel, the good old days weren't neccessarily that good and we should be living in this moment, not one 20 years ago.

    After we vent let's spend our energy focusing on how to make this industry what we want it to be now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dollyrocker View Post
    I think we need a designated board for rants to go under.
    There is a whole huge thread devoted to ranting. Just that it has fallen off the radar due to no one really using it... so here it is.. revive at will!

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32339

    Here is the last page of it
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...=32339&page=11


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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaxine View Post
    On no, I meant people in your OTC life. I got busted for something one of my in-laws Googled & it popped up from here. Big stupid stink.

    & I have worked with a couple people who post here....People talk, "is all's I'm saying."
    Ahhhh! Ok. Sorry about your inlaws...ack!!

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    I disagree with the OP.
    Its a community, in a community you get the good, the bad and the ugly and thats what makes things so good.
    As much as I am for positive thinking etc, it would truely suck here if we only posted "positive' things, ugh gag.
    Forums are good outlets for people its nice to share and its nice for others to give their imput because we are all different. Guarenteed every post and postee isnt going to be to everyones taste, but thats life (-:

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    If you dont like rants.. dont open the thread... or if you know its a rant after reading a line or two skip it and go to the next.

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    Oh--and...WTF, Cally! What washed-up crusty old stripper told you you couldn't have been a feature five years ago? Just a guess....it smacks of jealousy to me. How nasty and rude.

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