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    Was talking to another girl at work about VIP, and she said that she never discusses price with the customer herself on night shift.

    During the day, she will talk price and pitch it as a bargain, because rooms are 1/2 price before 6 p.m. ...and there are no floor hosts on.

    But at night with full-priced rooms, she leaves ALL of the price explaining and negotiating to the floor hosts. A custy will say "so how much?" and she'll say "let's talk with the host and make sure there's a room available."

    It seems to work for her, since she sells loads of rooms. And in my opinion it's good on a sales level too, as adding "let's make sure they even have an available room!" does good things for the supply-and-demand factor, makes it seem like a limited-quantity deal. And our hosts are amazing at what they do (including presenting the price in a very smooth way that sounds like no big deal ); *very* few custies will turn down the host.

    So, running this by the SW sounding board--does this sound like a good approach to you?

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    You should try it. It'sounds good to me!

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    Sounds like good game.

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    But my only fear would be once you lead him in the back and tell him how much it is, he'll say thats to much and walk right back out...







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    Default Re: Is this a good approach or not? (re: selling CR or VIP)

    that would only work if you have good VIP hosts that know how to sell; they can be good support if the customer is on the fence about whether or not he wants to go.

    however...I dont leave it to the host unless I trust them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cinammonkisses View Post
    But my only fear would be once you lead him in the back and tell him how much it is, he'll say thats to much and walk right back out...
    i was thinking that too.. but more when i thouht about if it would work for me at my club. i think that at your club it would work more times than not. try it out and see! you have good floor guys , and im sure they like you and will help you out!

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    I definetly think this is a good idea, I'm going to try it out myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    i was thinking that too.. but more when i thouht about if it would work for me at my club. i think that at your club it would work more times than not. try it out and see! you have good floor guys , and im sure they like you and will help you out!
    hehe yeah, our floor guys do know what they're doing. Except for one who sends me on "leads" that never go anywhere...and one that is okay except for the fact that he sings to me every time we have a conversation. Really.

    I'll say hi and he'll go into this really high-pitched falsetto and warble "hiiiiii (insert my stage name)! How are Youuuuuuu-uuuu!" And this continues throughout the night. ARGH make it stop make it stop make it stop!


    But yeah...generally they're good. And the two who are actually the night hosts, not just bouncers, are excellent at closing VIP sales.

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    i think those floor guys were my fav of any club ive worked at! well, them, and the guys at scores. when i came back for the week that i thought i might have changed my mind about not liking it, they were nicer to me than anybody! anthony is my favorite (and the reason i started working there in the first place!)

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    ^^ haha yeah...Anthony is who I was mostly thinking of when I said our floor guys are awesome. And we have one new guy who used to work at GGC who rocks b/c he'll just randomly give out positive affirmations whenever he's watching stage and I'm going up. The other night I was walking up to stage and he randomly whispered "remember, YOUR money is in THEIR pockets. Go take it back!"

    heh. Now I'm hijacking my own thread. Anyway, I will be trying this this weekend and see what happens.

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    who is it? haha, sorry, im totally threadjacking. thats my last non thread related comment.

    seriously, let us know how it works because it sounds like a good idea.

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    Picaresque, have you ever seen that dancer get turned down for a VIP once she walks the custy up to the VIP/Floor host?

    That's what I'm afraid of...walking up there and getting turned down cause he doesn't want to pay.







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    it can't hurt & i think most guys already at the door will follow through with it...ever get pressured into buying something extra at a make up counter b/c ur already there?

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    well, here's the thing imo, you can lose a sale at any point for random reasons. i have walked into VIP with the guy knowing that he can pay 100 for 3 dances and then the host tells him abotu the other two options (200/half and 400/hr) and he gets overwhelmed. or then hears he has to buy 2 drinks, and has a drink in his hand and doesnt want to pay 20 bucks more. he may say something like, ehhh i dont want to pay for the dirnks! ill say, oh come on, ill buy our drinks. (guys rarely let this happen anyways and if they do, ill tip the waitress so as not to mention that he didnt get drinks.) or, he may say, nvm, i just want a 20 dance or NO dance. and that will happen sometimes. even if you HAVE discussed price. but how often? not often. when it does happen, analyze the situ and realize why it happened. that way you can learn from your mistakes.

    actually, i was also thinking: if this works for her, she may also be nodding and saying things like, awesome! so you *do* have a room open! great, we can definitely play, ooh i cant wait, im excited! so that way, the guy would really almost feel uncomfortable to say no, and walkout? regardless, the added boost of positivity and subtle projectionary hints/nodding etc will help close it for sure.

    Love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy68 View Post

    actually, i was also thinking: if this works for her, she may also be nodding and saying things like, awesome! so you *do* have a room open! great, we can definitely play, ooh i cant wait, im excited! so that way, the guy would really almost feel uncomfortable to say no, and walkout? regardless, the added boost of positivity and subtle projectionary hints/nodding etc will help close it for sure.
    Yea, that sounds good BUT what about if he needs to go to the ATM? That will give him time to change his mind, especially if he's now far away from the floor host. This is still a great hustle technique though.







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    I think that's a really great fucking idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cinammonkisses View Post
    Yea, that sounds good BUT what about if he needs to go to the ATM? That will give him time to change his mind, especially if he's now far away from the floor host. This is still a great hustle technique though.
    well, you walk him there, talk to him while he's withdrawing, with your back to him of course so as not to see his pin, and then walk him back to CR/VIP. i do this all the time. and not once have i ever had a custy decide not to spend money when it's already out of the atm and in his hand. so, if he does, he's full of CS and didnt really want to spend/wasnt really gonna spend from the start.

    Love it!

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    ^^^Dam, I wish our ATM wasn't that freaking far away from the VIP room. Good ideas as always girls!







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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy68 View Post
    well, you walk him there, talk to him while he's withdrawing, with your back to him of course so as not to see his pin, and then walk him back to CR/VIP. i do this all the time. and not once have i ever had a custy decide not to spend money when it's already out of the atm and in his hand. so, if he does, he's full of CS and didnt really want to spend/wasnt really gonna spend from the start.
    OMFG. I had a custy last week who agreed to a half hour VIP at a set price. We walked to the ATM. He withdrew the money for a $14 transaction fee. We headed toward the room. Then, he smiled and said he changed his mind. What a fucker. He scammed my time. Evil does exist.

    I got mad. He tried to tipped me on stage later and I playfully ripped up his $2 so that the other customers could laugh at him. Laugh, they did. When a stripper rejects your money, God kills a kitten and your penis falls off.

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    I don't like letting the host do the price talking because I can often sell it for more than regular price. If I just let the host do it, I'll always be stuck with whatever they say. I don't like a club that limits us on prices - I like a club that has MINIMUM pricing but lets us negotiate for more. If we can get more, why the hell not???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    I don't like letting the host do the price talking because I can often sell it for more than regular price. If I just let the host do it, I'll always be stuck with whatever they say. I don't like a club that limits us on prices - I like a club that has MINIMUM pricing but lets us negotiate for more. If we can get more, why the hell not???

    That makes sense...but we can't do that at my club. It's a set price and the host gets the $ up front; we're not allowed to negotiate for more or less money.

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    That worked GREAT for me at a club in Tampa. The host sells you as the best dancer in the club and ups your value. I've had the host sell the room for me twice on the sam custy. The host who helps sell always gets a BIG tip.

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    I'll try it sometimes, I usually play it by reactions. Sometimes a guy doesn't even want to go into VIP without hearing prices but I have done it when I thought it was appropriate. I'll also tell guys that I can just tour them into the VIP and they can decide, that one usually works well for me with the specs in my club, once they're there it's 10 times easier and usually if they agree to a "tour" they've already half-committed themselves mentally.

    I think it just depends on where you work and who you work with. If I left all the pricing up to the host to explain, I'd be fine with some and screwed with others. Most of my hosts will leave the pricing open to an extent and a few won't.

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    Well, if it's a club where prices are set in stone, then this kind of hustle sounds great to me. Easier for the girl, and probably easier to turn some who are a little hesitant. I've seen it backfire on occasion - when the host can't sell for shit - but it sounds like this host is good, so all is well


    I did something similar at a club I worked with set pricing. The place was 2-story and all private dances were done on 2nd floor. The lapdance room was separate from the CR but both on same floor, and you had to pass the CR to get to the laproom. Sometimes I'd just sell a guy on a private dance, get him upstairs, and the host waiting up there would get him to upgrade to CR, and then I would get him to upgrade the bottle Only certain hosts were really good at this though, so I learned when to play this game and when not to - do it with the wrong host and it would sometimes backfire, turning the guy right off. Do it with the right host and I could be in CR all night

    I still prefer working in clubs where we're allowed to negotiate price because I like getting more if I can. I always get the money for CR up front in any case. One would be a fool not to.

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