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    I'm gettin a paysite, I think.

    This is the same guy that worked with mermaidnz, so if she can bring something to the thread that's negative, maybe not.

    But I'm getting a paysite most likely.

    A lot of softcore stuff, like Darcy (oops, Ashlee!) and just cute soft pr0n people pay $20 a month to see my boobs at.

    I only get $7 a month of that though. Per member.

    Fair?


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    You're getting less than half of the monthly fee? Where is the rest going?
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    $6 goes to the credit card charge company/host that takes a % because they suck. 50% goes to the designer. 50% goes to me.


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    CC charge and host fees I can understand. I don't see why a designer would need to get that much though. Uploading new content doesn't take THAT much effort. And since you're the star AND doing all of the actual content... yeah. Majority should go to you.
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    He's still designing the entire website from scratch. We're still talking about it. I'm asking Jessica.


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    You are so getting ripped! BTW, the only paysites that seem to pay up are ones that are part of a network thus can generate initial and repeat/ongoing membership because you get the traffic due to being part of a network (or so I've observed).

    If you are getting a paysite that is independant and not part of a network.. how the hell will it be worth your while to have it? Can he guarantee you good traffic (quality traffic) that will bring you initial and repeat memberships?

    I can understand the initial cost of setting up a website yet after the initial cost it is actually due to advances in HTML etc to be really piss easy to update.

    Honestly, it is the traffic and the "guarantee" of memberships (especially repeat memberships) that I would be of concern about as you are in this to make money, right?

    ETA: Plus as for the content, you would have to be able to provide alot of content due to how competative it is "out there" these days to have a website (especially an independant one not with an established network of websites) and make any decent money with it.... are you prepared to do web cam, shitloads of photo shoots and so forth??

    How are you going to make yourself stand out amongst the thousands of other sites ???

    I'm all for someone having a paysite just make sure you have read the fine print and make sure it is the best deal you can get ... make it worth your while as you are investing your image (thus yourself) into it... and who knows what will happen if the 'relationship' you have with the guy goes sour etc for whatever reason....
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    ^^^ Yep. When I built adult pay sites, I got a flat rate. I didn't get more if the entertainer got more members. I also wasn't the reason people paid to see the site, I didn't do the advertising for the site, etc. I didn't deserve a % for the site, since I wasn't why the numbers were being generate. I was paid X amount to build it, and then Y amount every month that I did work.
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    Hey Vee, did you even ask me?! Because it IS part of a network! That's where all the cerditcard hosting money is going is the network. THAT'S who's taking my $6.

    Anyway, YES I AM PREPARED TO DO WEBCAMS AND PHOTOSHOOTS. Yes I very much am. I'm not stupid and going 'gee this'll be easy'. I mean, durr, I wanna webpage, I think I'll do NOTHING. It'll be piss easy!! I mean, c'mon, you didn't think I thought it would be work?

    I'm asking Jessica about the designer to be 100% sure about this guy who's working on it. Otherwise the domains are registered in MY name and I can just do it myself if it turns out to not be worth my while.

    Even Darcy ended up having to pay someone because she was overwhelmed with work to do it herself. I don't want to end up like that.


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    I was just going off the information you have posted on here. You never mentioned in any of your posts that it was going to be part of a network of websites so just like everyone else I can only go off what is typed here.

    I don't know. I'm just skeptical these days because the "golden age" of when pay websites were anywhere near lucrative have long gone that's all.

    Plus I'm not saying do the website yourself just make sure you are getting the best deal here by using someone else's talent as such.

    Also, make damn sure it is easy for you to get all your content back... any and all video and photos that are going to be available via the site... make damn sure that if the "relationship" goes sour or you want to get out of the deal for whatever reason that you can get all those images and footage back.

    Give us more information we can only go off what you have typed here.

    PS I type this out of concern and because there are video footage and content of me "out there" via other websites that I will never be able to get back (even tho' it is like your photos... all soft core.. no open leg etc) because I was naive at the time.. and didn't read the fine print.. and thus all those photos and footage are now copyright or "belong" in some capacity to those sites forever... or if the site doesn't continue to exist.. I bet the images etc can easily be sold off to someone... that's all.


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    your talking about blair?


    put it this way, i pulled the site after 5 or so months up,cos it wasnt making shit,blair expected me to cover the costs of everything-i had to supply photographer (and even tho it was just my partner,i cant expect to run a business and make someone work for free!!) and locations.i had to hire hotel rooms to shoot in.

    after 5 months i made a grand total of $870. w00p de fucking shit.

    i spentmore then that on locations.


    waste of fucking time.


    he took 4 months to sort out the site too.

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    Yup, talking about Blair. Okay then, I'll make it myself!


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    Almost all webmasters out there do it as a 50/50 split.

    I'm part of Spunkycash now and I get 50%, and that's fine because now literally all I have to do is pose for photos and make webcam videos, and send them to him. He takes care of advertising, PotD stuff, billing, design, updates, etc.

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    ^ That's exactly what he wants to take care of. He'll even do my 'blog' posts for me. So it'll not be a real me. hahaha.

    Crapo.. now I'm uncertain. :/

    Anyway, I know how to not pay location fees. Also, if you get 4 costumes for one shoot you can have 2 months of content... because you can do part 1 and 2 for each costume and spread them out. So I'd only need a photoshoot every two months or so.


    Oh darcy! Had a great idea for our photoshoot in the future (who knows when, but hey)....pillowfight!


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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldCoastGirl View Post
    Also, make damn sure it is easy for you to get all your content back... any and all video and photos that are going to be available via the site... make damn sure that if the "relationship" goes sour or you want to get out of the deal for whatever reason that you can get all those images and footage back.
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    morrigan-slayde.com is owned by me. It would be hard for someone to claim content on a site owned by myself. Even so, the contract says all photos are mine. All videos are mine. Everything is mine.

    I'm giving him access to my domain name using his own hosting.

    However, morriganslayde.com is for my personal use.


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    ^ lol... i've already done a pillowfight shoot for my site with a friend from work

    how many updates are you planning on doing each week? i have to add two photo sets, one video, and probably one or two webcam videos.

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    1 photo set and 1-2 videos for now. That much? Hrrrm.. I'm gonna need a lot of back-up content then. Phooo....


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    he doesnt actually bother writing any blogs after hes done about 3 entries.

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    Think lowest common denominator.... most people won't bother with a - so make the morriganslayde.com your paid site and the morrigan-slayde your personal one. People can't be bothered with - or _ and so forth ultimately... so make it easy for everyone to access. You may also want to register (and have them fwd to morriganslayde.com) other domains such as morganslayde.com and so forth for those who don't remember that it is morrigan in regards to you etc.

    I have vanessastacy.com and vanessastacey.com because people spell stacey sometimes like stacy .... just something to think about... I also took vanessatheundresser.com also for fun (have no idea what to do with it yet).


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    I already spent $60 just to make sure these are privately registered so nobody can get my details. I don't have $30 a domain name to be throwin' around here.

    And morriganslayde.com will direct to morrigan-slayde.com. I have it setup that way for a personal reason. morrigan-slayde.com is a tame little intro page like darcyfoxx.com before aussieashlee.com.. similar idea.

    And since I'm working off links and cards... if people can't spell my site, that's their reading comprehension problem.

    I really want morriganslayde to be mine. ESPECIALLY since morriganslayde can be read as Morrigan's layde. And that SUCKS.

    I want customers to realize where my first name ends and the other begins.


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    If the guy turns out to be crummy or doesn't do enough work to justify his pay, then definitely fire him. There are so many web designers out there who would absolutely LOVE to create and update a site for you (especially if they're getting half). Don't be afraid to remind him of this.

    Remember that it's your reputation involved more than his, so if he doesn't keep his end of the bargain it's better to cut him loose. I'm a web developer and have picked up some of my projects from people who got half the work done by someone else or had the last hire refuse to do it. It's not that common, but it does happen. I would also suggest paying for hosting yourself (or at least seeing how much it would cost). That way, if you fire him, your site keeps going -- plus that can be a bargaining chip for him to accept less. It's more cost-effective for him to own the hosting of every project he's running because all of his clients are paying for hosting. But it might be better for you to use Dreamhost or another host to have total control. (If you have any questions or anything, please feel free to ask!!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilithmorrigan View Post
    And since I'm working off links and cards... if people can't spell my site, that's their reading comprehension problem.
    And also money out of your pocket. You HAVE to have a site that people can remember, or else you will lose a ton of customers.

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    ^ agree! I mean people still get www.mild2wild.com.au confused with www.mildtwowild.com.au and even www.mildtowild.com.au (I own mild2wild and mild twowild) maybe something easy to remember like HOTMORRIGAN or MORRIGANXXX or MSXXX ... something that is easy to remember and easy to spell... even spelling morrigan can be spelt morigan or even morgan.... dont want to spend $$ on a good site only to have it not work.... good luck!
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    Your url names are totally un-intuitive and BAD- marketing.

    Sorry to put it out there but thats the facts.

    NO!body will remember those url names and you need to pick an easier to rememer domain name.

    The spelling of the url is not time to be eccentric.

    Yours are a bad brand / bad branding / 'what the fuck was her weird name spelling again - ah - forget about it'/ type problem.

    sorry. (I just read it 5 seconds ago and I already forget the name. mild2wild. I remember however)

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    it's a purely marketing problem not a "reading comprehension problem" morr

    have a look at all the successful paysites... the successful ones usually have an easy to remember and type (and thus spell) domain name.

    please think of something else other than your full stage name to use for your site (as unfortunately you do have a rather unique and hard to spell right off the top of your head type of stage name)... like "darcy foxx" did with aussieashlee ... that's easy to remember... it uses her stage name yet makes it also easier to remember with the "aussie" part.

    even something that doesn't have your name in it such as my goldcoastgirl domains? or even like www.rivercitykitty.com .....once again, easy for anyone to remember. I just typed that "river city kitty" one off the top of my head.

    http://whois.com.au/

    try a whole heap of variations and see if they are available or not

    you need to think marketing and realise the success or not of your site goes beyond peoples reading comprehension


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    I really don't agree with the idea of not using a full stage name, in general. Almost all features, porn stars, hell... even music and mainstream film stars use their full names as their domains.


    I do, however, want to add something. If you are putting ANYthing on your personal site that you do NOT want associated with your paysite, do NOT use your stage name AND a variation on it for the two. If someone googles your stage name, they will get both sites. If you want a total seperation of you and $$$YOU$$$, I'd suggest something more obscure but still about you for a domain for your personal site.
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