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    over the past year i've learned that my time is indeed valuable and that the services i do, which, amongst dancing includes: listening, making people feel good, comedienne, counselor, intellectual discussion partner, masseuse for the neck and shoulders, should be paid for because they are valuable.

    a lot of the dudes i meet don't seem to get this. example:

    me: "so you're not going to get a dance. my time has value and yours does too. i appreciate an investment for my time. it was good to spend time with you."

    dude: "what, you want me to actually pay you for your time?!!!"
    another dude: "i don't like to pay my women."
    some other dude: "dude, i don't spend money on strippers."
    idiot: "i thought you weren't all about the money like other dancers are!"

    what's a good reaction? i usually politely excuse myself, internally angry that these guys just don't get it.

    how do the rest of you handle customers' shock at you actually wanting to be paid for your time?

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    I don't like to waste any more time on the guys that complain about money than I already have so I usually just sprout a "You know you're in a stripclub, right?" before I flounce away quickly. It ain't witty but I don't really care about these guys.

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    After talking with a custy for a few minutes and after he says that he doesn't do dances or VIPs, I mention how much I love his company and I really don't want to leave his side. I lay it on thick. He agrees that he wants me to stay. I politely bring up that I must get back to "those other guys" to sell dances, but it is possible for me to remain with him if he chooses to tip me in advance. Then I name an amount.

    Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

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    Okay - while I do think being paid for your time is good, charging them retroactively when they didn't know they were being charged is... not going to go over too well. And they are under no obligation to pay - that would be a tip.

    On the other hand, I appreciate how annoying it is when you chat up a potential customer for ever and then they act like they are mystified by the dance process

    In a nutshell, if you expect to be paid, you have to inform them BEFORE they use the service, not after. Then, if they don't want it... well, that's just it, then. They don't want it. Keep in mind whenever you are sitting with a customer that they might not pay, and that they don't have to pay. Make your move before it gets to the point that you feel they "owe" you.
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    Your question as such has already been answered yet I can't help it..

    In real life I actually just up and walk away as it is quite obvious that they are wasting my time and thus I don't want to waste any more of my breath.. tho'.. I wish I had the nerve to be able to say the following back to them (without the club getting on my back for being rude to the cheapasses - argh).

    dude: "what, you want me to actually pay you for your time?!!!"

    me: "what? so you are telling me that you also work for free at your job? wow! that's awesome. I don't."

    another dude: "i don't like to pay my women."

    me: "i'm my own woman and not owned by anyone except myself so since i am not "your woman" ..." give him "the look" to say "pay up or shut up" lol.

    some other dude: "dude, i don't spend money on strippers."

    me: "that's awesome! I'm not a stripper... I'm an adult erotic entertainer... so how about a tip?"

    idiot: "i thought you weren't all about the money like other dancers are!"

    me: laugh in his face "look up the word naive sometime"

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    Lol ... "look up the word naive sometime... love it
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    Default Re: "you want me to pay you for your time?!"

    I would just say something simple (they are men, and probably drunk, after all) like: "A girl's gotta eat."

    I've never had a customer get rude with me when I say that. He might say something like, "well, I won't waste any more of your time." and send me away. The phrase is simple and succinct. It gets the point across that this is my job and this is how I can afford to live.

    Another way to handle this situation is to say that you have to keep working. After getting turned down for a dance/vip simply say:
    "I wish I could just sit here and keep talking to you. I like you and am enjoying your company, but I have to keep working. The house fees here are outrageous and I need to do XYZ more dances if I hope to go home with any money in my pocket at all."

    I've had customers offer to pay my house fees using this line. Of course, include tip out in your fees when quoting him the rate.


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    GCG, I think I love you. Those are great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gretchen View Post
    I don't like to waste any more time on the guys that complain about money than I already have so I usually just sprout a "You know you're in a stripclub, right?" before I flounce away quickly. It ain't witty but I don't really care about these guys.
    One of my regulars overheard me saying this one day, and now if he hears anyone complaining about tipping me (for my time or whatever reason) he will actually say this to them!! Cracks me up!

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    thank you.

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    I just cock my head, smile, say "well, you have a good night!" and leave. NEXT!!

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    Hmm, I'm with FemmeFatale, smile and walk away. Probably not the best thing to do, but I work busy nights, and there's someone in the club that IS willing to pay. :-)
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    Default Re: "you want me to pay you for your time?!"

    When they ask why just say that your club has a rule that if you sit with a customer for too long, they start writing down that you're making money. And you have to tip out on that money at the end of the night. After telling him that you enjoy sitting there first. This one also works for the "I thought you weren't all about the money one"

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    Quote Originally Posted by FemmeFatale View Post
    I just cock my head, smile, say "well, you have a good night!" and leave. NEXT!!
    Yep. And not waste more than a song or two sitting there if you aren't getting dances or tips. They need to learn that our company is not free.
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    I try to move quick. I find that when I approach the table the first thing I say is this....
    "Hi! Im Roxi!, would you like some company?" usually I can tell right away by their reaction if they.....

    A: want a dance
    the guy usually smiles, looks around or even sometimes stands right up and walks to the vip....

    B: wishy washy
    the guy will normally say, "sure, why dont you sit down for a little bit". Sit down ask for a drink, when you get your drink then ask for a dance after ONE song. If he says no to the dance but still wants your time offer a table dance if your club allows. If he STILL wants your talk time then tell him you have a few tables that are waiting for you and you will make it back around to see him later on. That might even pressure him to get a dance NOW.

    C: time waster
    the guy will normally make a face or roll his eyes as if he is annoyed and say have a seat, Ill just say "um... thats ok, ill come back if you're feeling lonely"

    Normally the phrase "would you like some company" is misintruprted for do you wanna a dance. Guys always mix it up, sometimes they say no I dont want a dace right off the bat. To that I respond with, "well I was just thinking about joining you for a chat, but you seem to be in good company with yourself, take care!"

    this is how I hustle.
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    I try to ascertain quickly whether they want a dance or not, based on how happy they look when I walk up to them, how they respond to me when I introduce myself, how they act when I sit down, and how the conversation is going. I think most guys know pretty quickly if they want a dance or not; if they seem to be on the fence I only give myself the length of a song or two to warm them up, then pop the question. If the answer is no, I just wish them a good night and take off. Paying for time is not common where I work, so I've never tried, though once in a while a guy will offer. I agree with Jenny, though, you can't ask for payment retroactively for something they didn't know they were purchasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kylie3183 View Post
    When they ask why just say that your club has a rule that if you sit with a customer for too long, they start writing down that you're making money. And you have to tip out on that money at the end of the night. After telling him that you enjoy sitting there first. This one also works for the "I thought you weren't all about the money one"

    I don't know- I think it's best to give customers the impression that there ARE NOT alot of rules and that you are a free enterprising hot chick who happens to come in sometimes. I think It would look bad for a guy to think you are this sexy slave in some industry in which they probaby beleive you don't belong in in the first place ya know?

    Granted my club has very few rues, thus girls are always leaving and coming without permission, and many times to "trick"

    However, it keeps them in a good mood, never ood to play the sympathy card when you can play the "too good/hot/fun for you" card....

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    The other night it was kind of slow and I sat down on the knee of a guy who was sitting at a table with his friend. No biggie, I often sit on knees for a few min. until I ask them for a dance. So I was having a nice conversation with these guys, really hitting it off. And when I asked the guy I was sitting on if he'd like a private dance, he declined politely, ditto on his friend. So I said, "Well, let me know if you change your minds, I'll be around all night, etc." And when I stood up I said, "Would you like to tip me for my time?"

    You would have thought I asked this guy for his firstborn. He stood up and started to get his wallet out and grumbling about he says, "This must be loserville if you expect me to tip you just for sitting here," and he hands me a dollar. I looked at him and laughed and said, "Yeah, you can have your dollar back, you obviously need it more than I do. And by the way, nothing here is free. If the idea of spending a little cash bothers you so much maybe you should go somewhere else." And then I threw the buck at him and walked off.

    Usually I don't bother responding like that, but he really pissed me off, especially since they thought I was so lovely and charming prior to asking for a tip. As if it was so audacious that I would expect money for my time. Some people just don't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kylie3183 View Post
    This one also works for the "I thought you weren't all about the money one"
    ahhh!! i hate this comment! or "is that all you want?".
    um...
    duh.


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    When they ask why just say that your club has a rule that if you sit with a customer for too long, they start writing down that you're making money. And you have to tip out on that money at the end of the night. After telling him that you enjoy sitting there first. This one also works for the "I thought you weren't all about the money one"
    Quote Originally Posted by KennedyWinters View Post
    I don't know- I think it's best to give customers the impression that there ARE NOT alot of rules and that you are a free enterprising hot chick who happens to come in sometimes. I think It would look bad for a guy to think you are this sexy slave in some industry in which they probaby beleive you don't belong in in the first place ya know?

    Granted my club has very few rues, thus girls are always leaving and coming without permission, and many times to "trick"

    However, it keeps them in a good mood, never ood to play the sympathy card when you can play the "too good/hot/fun for you" card....
    This is when they are scoffing at the idea of spending money. Not for your average guy, but the one who wants to sit and drink, and have some girl to sit and talk with all night for FREE. This lets them know they have to spend if they expect company.

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    Default Re: "you want me to pay you for your time?!"

    one thing that i've learned is to not reward bad behavior from customers. once a guy communicates that he doesn't want a dance, i'm out of there.

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    I don't waste time on people who are only there to waste my time. If they don't seem like they want a dance, I still try to get them to buy me a drink or tip me, because they shouldn't leave the club with the same amount of money they had coming in.

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    If you expect to be paid for a service, whether it be chit chat or a dance, getting your money beforehand is key. 5-10 min. tops is an ok investment of time to try to warm the person up, but if you spend anymore time than that w/o getting paid you're cheating yourself as well as the other dancers. Because then that customer expects every dancer after you to waste a reasonable chunk of her time free of cost to him... no fun, and makes selling a dance or just getting tipped extremely difficult. I've delt with this alot esp. in SF, alot of new girls tend to do it. It is a major pet peeve of mine. Argh.
    (I don't know how much time you actually spend talking with them, I'm not pointing a finger at you just generally speaking)
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    The last time I was in a SC this dancer sits next to me and we have a nice chat. I'm guarded at first but we hit it off so I'm enjoying the conversation. After about 3 songs or so my SW instinct kicks in (yes, I've learned things by reading this forum) and I'm actually worried about her just sitting there with me and not making money. She didn't ask for anything, just sat there talking. I was laughing to myself thinking how silly it was that I was the one worried about her making money. It's funny how reading these posts has changed my perspective. So, I ask her if I can give her some money. Her line was brilliant. She says, "save your tip, when you're ready we'll go into the private dance room." I was like, let's go now which seemed to surprise her, maybe most guys just expect to talk. I ended up getting several dances from her.

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