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    So.
    I had interviews and thought that it might be wise to remove my nose ring. I subsequently managed to lose the bead, and last night, the ring. Obviously I need a new one. Problem - I don't know the size and worse, the gauge. I have a gaping hole in my nostril and no idea what size it is. (Did I tell you this was going to sound dumb?)

    So. Anyone know how I do this?
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    Default Re: Piercing Help. This is going to sound so dumb.

    18 or 20 gauge. If it's the size of a earring stud, it's either 18 or 20 gauge. 20 gauge is the smaller of the two.

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    I think yours is a 20 guage Jenny... its like mega tiny. If you go to a piercing shop they can figure it out for you.

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    !!!! i would never put a 20 gauge anywhere but ears... that's asking for a keloid if something starts to close up. Girl, if you can SEE the hole, it's an 18. 16's too big for nostril. My nips are 14's and might have keloided at 16.

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    Hitting up a reputable piercing shop is your best bet, if possible. They'll most likely be able to help you figure it out. MrsChristopher has 2 noserings, and I think hers are 18g. They're really teeny hoops with a fixed bead so the bead never falls off, and she turns them in so you can't see the beads. If you can't make it to a piercing shop, try hitting up a Hot Topic or something, they have decent jewelry and it's inexpensive so if you try an 18 and it doesn't fit, you're not down too much cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Embyr View Post
    !!!! i would never put a 20 gauge anywhere but ears... that's asking for a keloid if something starts to close up. Girl, if you can SEE the hole, it's an 18. 16's too big for nostril. My nips are 14's and might have keloided at 16.
    I'm sorry but what are you talking about? There are pleanty of people with 16g in their nostrils. and 14g is the smallest you should ever get nips pierced at. And Sorry but the gauge isn't much of a determining factor in keliod scaring, genetics are. Nostrils are pierced (standard) at 18. Most nose screws are 18g. You are rarely if ever pierced at anything smaller than an 18g for nostrils...because at a 20g it is much more likely to cause a cheese grater affect where the metal is so thin is can act as a razor wire in the skin... this is why various piercings are done at different gauges.... Once you are healed you can go down to a 20g in your nostril, many of the nose bones (stud with a small ball on one end and bigger one on the other) and cheaper nose screws or L's are 20g and of a lower quality metal and jewel setting. I think of these as disposable.

    Go to a shop nearby and tell them you need an 18g CBR and you're not sure the diameter. They wont have a problem getting a ring for you. If you want something super thing ask if they have any 20g but I doubt it.

    I personally dont wear a nose screw, bone or ring in my nose. I have a threadless flatback labret/monroe piece with a 1.25mm diamond in it. If you are worried about it closing up and you cant get to a tattoo/piercing shop or mall to get a cheapie go to a hardware store and get 18g fishing line. snip a little piece and melt one end and pop it in until you can get some real jewelry.

    I worked in a tattoo/piercing shop for the past 3 years.... your question pales in comparison to some of the things I've heard... it isn't dumb for someone who doesn't know much about it.

    OH ALSO if the shop near you does custom orders ask them if you can get a seamless ring, and maybe an extra in case you ever have to take it out and lose it.... they dont have the bead to put in and you can hardly see the seam where the two ends meet. Industrial Strength makes them. Fuck it, find out what diameter you need and I'll get you some (if you're comfortable PMing me your address, or an address I can mail them to)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Embyr View Post
    !!!! i would never put a 20 gauge anywhere but ears... that's asking for a keloid if something starts to close up. Girl, if you can SEE the hole, it's an 18. 16's too big for nostril. My nips are 14's and might have keloided at 16.
    16 is too big you say? http://www.bmezine.com/pierce/03-nos...mepb507475.jpg

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    Oh come on sc0101!!! That's an extreme body mod... hahaha theres one dude I saw who had like 1 and a half to 2" holes in each nostril... you can see thru his septum and it's like a 0g or 00g.... but these don't really apply to the general population.

    I must say I am kind of amused that you posed that... the more I look at him the more I wonder if its an old pic of the guy I saw

    EDIT: I found him and I think it is the same guy but an old pic
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    I've worked in shops too...Roulette is right. I had two 16g in my nostrils. Aside from leaving a scar when I took them out, I had no problems with anything like keloids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Embyr View Post
    !!!! i would never put a 20 gauge anywhere but ears... that's asking for a keloid if something starts to close up. Girl, if you can SEE the hole, it's an 18. 16's too big for nostril. My nips are 14's and might have keloided at 16.
    Not really. Keloiding has little to do with what size you get pierced at and usually happens BEFORE any piercings close up (during healing, short time after healing), although if you get your belly button pierced at a 20g, obviously, that's not the appropriate or recommended size for that piercing. 20g, or 18g are the preferred sizes of nostril piercings. I think most shops pierce at 18, some 20.

    Like someone else said, genetics is the biggest determining factor in keloiding. Most scar tissue isn't even keloid scar tissue, people just assume it is.
    Keloiding with piercings usually looks like a big tumor, but it's quite harmless beside the fact that it can grow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette View Post
    Oh come on sc0101!!! That's an extreme body mod... hahaha theres one dude I saw who had like 1 and a half to 2" holes in each nostril... you can see thru his septum and it's like a 0g or 00g.... but these don't really apply to the general population.

    I must say I am kind of amused that you posed that... the more I look at him the more I wonder if its an old pic of the guy I saw

    EDIT: I found him and I think it is the same guy but an old pic
    It is. Honestly, he can be an arrogant prick sometimes...IMO. Everyone elses seems to treat him like God <- but I hate people like that. Think they know everything. Little do they know, I KNOW EVERYTHING. damnit
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    Default Re: Piercing Help. This is going to sound so dumb.

    Not only that, but keloids are much more rare than people think they are.

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    I'd guess it's a 20g. (Mine's super small and a 22g, but I have a nostril screw in - my CBR is a 20g.)

    If you go to a piercing salon their can size you up really easily.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette View Post

    EDIT: I found him and I think it is the same guy but an old pic
    WHY WHY WHY WOULD ANYONE DO THIS TO THEIR NOSE?!?!?!? To each his own, but geeeeeeez, you can see up his nose!

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    Guys, I know it's off-topic, but I've got to remark: I'm not squeamish ordinarily, but those pics made me curl up and wilt a little bit... oh god oh god I can see his cartiligineous skull components... oh god oh god the inside of his head is visible.... oh god oh god why would anyone make themselves so vulnerable to upper-respiratory infections... and also oh god it's unsightly like a horror movie come to life...

    *passes out due to graphic septum*

    *is administered figurative smelling salts and revives to say:*

    Good luck with your nose ring ordeal, Jenny. Get thee to a piercing shop; they'll have quick answers. What they might do is measure the gauge with a tapered needle (they did that to mine, because the same thing happened to me) and insert the proper jewelry. It will be no big deal and will take like 3 minutes, and no, they won't laugh at you, I think it's a common occurrence. Shit, i still have no idea what size my nostril jewelry is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Embyr View Post
    !!!! i would never put a 20 gauge anywhere but ears... that's asking for a keloid if something starts to close up. Girl, if you can SEE the hole, it's an 18. 16's too big for nostril. My nips are 14's and might have keloided at 16.
    Exactly. Standard piercing studs for noses are 18g, that's what they pierce with unless you ask for bigger.

    Go with 18g. I would be careful about putting 20g in your nose unless it's completely 100% healed, and you've never had a problem with it before. I put 20g in my nostril the first time I had it pierced before it was totally healed up and I developed a small keloid...I had to take it out, let it heal up, and get it re-pierced. (keloid went away btw, thank god.)

    Some people don't have a problem with 20g, but it's something to think about.

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    FYI - I think Iodine or Betadine gets rid of keloids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redvelvetrose View Post
    WHY WHY WHY WOULD ANYONE DO THIS TO THEIR NOSE?!?!?!? To each his own, but geeeeeeez, you can see up his nose!
    Well, at least it must be easier for him to pick his nose. I would truly hate to be around him while he had a sinus infection, though. *pukes a little*

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    Iodine or betadine does not get rid of keloids. You can cut them off, but you risk them growing back. A derm can inject them with steroids and they will flatten with time and multiple steroid treatments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxingdoc View Post
    Iodine or betadine does not get rid of keloids. You can cut them off, but you risk them growing back. A derm can inject them with steroids and they will flatten with time and multiple steroid treatments.
    Glad you clarified that! I was thinking hell there'd be a lot less people with keloids if that was true. Its not an issue of healing, some people are just genetically prone to getting them. People with darker skin are far more likely to get them than people with light skin pigments. They are a type of scar tissue caused by excess collagen production when a wound is trying to heal. Theres ways to treat them, such as laser or cutting them off, but they are likely just to grow back.

    Nostril piercings can be done anywhere between 20-14g (to start with at least) although I think 18g is probably the norm. I think any experienced piercer should be able to look at the opening and accurately guess the size. If you do buy an 18 and it happens to really be a 20 the 18 should fit through without any real discomfort anyways.

    I enjoy BMEzine and I've seen that picture before but it still makes me cringe when I can see all of his nose hair. I adore large gauge piercings but omg huge nostrils and labrets make me cringe when the jewelry is out. To each his own I suppose!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueJeanBaby View Post
    Exactly. Standard piercing studs for noses are 18g, that's what they pierce with unless you ask for bigger.

    Go with 18g. I would be careful about putting 20g in your nose unless it's completely 100&#37; healed, and you've never had a problem with it before. I put 20g in my nostril the first time I had it pierced before it was totally healed up and I developed a small keloid...I had to take it out, let it heal up, and get it re-pierced. (keloid went away btw, thank god.)

    Some people don't have a problem with 20g, but it's something to think about.
    If you had a "small keloid" that healed up, it wasn't a keloid. Keloids either stay the same, or get bigger unless you have surgery (and 30% of the time that doesn't work). Hypertrophic scarring isn't keloiding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xBlackBettyx View Post
    20g, or 18g are the preferred sizes of nostril piercings. I think most shops pierce at 18, some 20.
    No one should be piercing anything at a 20. Period. It can be done obviously, if the shop has the needsles to do so, but nothing should be pierced at a 20. 20g jewelrry should only be worn after a piercing is healed.

    Quote Originally Posted by hardkandee View Post
    I'd guess it's a 20g. (Mine's super small and a 22g, but I have a nostril screw in - my CBR is a 20g.)

    If you go to a piercing salon their can size you up really easily.
    Most piercing places do not have 20g CBR's in stock, nd def not 22g... metal that thin is practically too thin to have any integraty... depending on the metal of course, but still.... these are not the norm.


    Quote Originally Posted by xBlackBettyx View Post
    If you had a "small keloid" that healed up, it wasn't a keloid. Keloids either stay the same, or get bigger unless you have surgery (and 30% of the time that doesn't work). Hypertrophic scarring isn't keloiding.
    You said exactly what I was going to say. Those little red bumps that many people develop are easy to get rid of with tea tree oil, and are not keloids.
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    tea tree oil actually made mine worse. You have to be careful with it and dilute it well, or it can be too harsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueJeanBaby View Post
    tea tree oil actually made mine worse. You have to be careful with it and dilute it well, or it can be too harsh.
    Really you should do a test patch sonewhere alese first... That is odd that you had a reaction, most people dont. I mean obviously they do but it's in a good way. Anyway if you want to get all earthy on the problem I know one of the piercers at my shop uses chamomile(sp??) tea bags. He soaks them in uber hot water and uses them as a compress. just throwing that out there.

    So Jenny, have you gotten a new ring?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette View Post
    Really you should do a test patch sonewhere alese first... That is odd that you had a reaction, most people dont. I mean obviously they do but it's in a good way. Anyway if you want to get all earthy on the problem I know one of the piercers at my shop uses chamomile(sp??) tea bags. He soaks them in uber hot water and uses them as a compress. just throwing that out there.

    So Jenny, have you gotten a new ring?
    I've heard extended sea salt soaking also helps with hypertrophic scarring overtime. Just don't overdo it, a pinch is all you need! Maybe once or twice a day (if it's already past the 6 week healing period)
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