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    Default What is acceptable behavior for bartenders and shot girls?

    I've been having an issue with both of the above recently. I work at two clubs, one more frequently (the 'main' club that is frankly better quality in a lot of ways, and one of the 5 other clubs owned by the same group), but the other smaller, more blue collar one once in a while too.

    At the main club, there is one bartender in particular who, I feel, steps waaaaay over the line. Yes, it's a strip club, but let me explain. Our club's main bar is inside the main stage, or, that is, the stage is built around it. This stage is notorious for being an arduous obstacle course, with all kinds of gaps and moats and narrow passages, we have to be very careful not to kick bartenders or customers in the head. The bartenders often need to get to customers via one of the 'moats'. Understandable that some traffic issues occur, but generally, everyone works as a team. All that's just background.

    This one bartender wears extremely provocative outfits - I mean, I'm talking basically stripper outfits. The other ones wear black, cute but not suggestive. Okay, fine. I know at least one of the other bartenders had a problem with this, because I overheard the girl in question defending herself to management. She said "It's a strip club! I don't want to see girls in turtlenecks when *I* got to a club!" The manager basically agreed with her. SIGH. There's a lot of middle ground between a turtleneck and a corset top with booty shorts and fishnets!

    But it doesn't end there. My bigger problem with her is that she ROUTINELY exposes her boobs to extract tips from customers. Every time she takes a tip she whips 'em out and takes the dollar by squeezing it between them. And to top it off, she'll do this RIGHT NEXT TO US as we're dancing. TOTALLY upstaging us. The other day I literally had my ankles on a big tipper's shoulders and she came over to drop off his beer, pulled 'em out and stood there waiting for her tip - and then had to BANTER WITH HIM!!! I literally sat there, ankles on shoulders, all but drumming my fingernails for this bullshit to be over.

    Did I mention that in addition to all of the above, she gives ALL the dancers serious attitude? Like WE are getting in the way of HER doing her job? All the other bartenders cooperate with the stage obstacles very well. Not her. Dirty looks, eyerolls, the whole nine.

    Am I overreacting? I mean, if you want to strip, then STRIP!!! Pay your fee, pay the DJ, and get up onstage where the competition is fair. This is a constant battle on every shift, yet management seems to suppport it - based on the conversation I heard. I worry that saying anything will only cause drama.

    The other club, the smaller, more blue collar one, has shot girl dances that are so outrageous I've literally never seen anything like it. The girls basically give them all-out lap dances right out there on the floor. Clothed, or maybe just a flash here or there, but I'm talking SERIOUS mileage. Hardcore, raunchy grinding, two way contact. AND THEY DO THIS FOR A DOLLAR.

    Let me tell ya, it's HARD to compete with that some nights, and the distraction factor is even more frustrating. I'll have someone on the hook from onstage. I get off & start over to them, and he and all his friends are now 100% absorbed in this shot girl dance instead. Why should they pay $20 for a dance with limited contact when they can get ground to a pulp and grope like mad for $1??? Apparently it's been this way forever, and this club is even sort of proud of this 'feature' of theirs.

    Anyone else ever have issues like this? How did you deal? And really, am I just being a diva for having problems with these policies?
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    No you arent overreacting. I HATE it when girls overstep the boundries by doing this shit. If you want to be a stripper..be a damn stripper. You dont get to have it both ways.

    I'd talk to management. Bring along anyone else who has issues with it(I doubt you are the only one) and gang up on them.

    And HELL NO would I have stood there waiting for the bartender to shut up. Bow down so you are right in his face and blocking her and talk to him. If he has already paid/tipped her...shes now taking away from YOUR tip time. In fact a GOOD bartender would wait a minute for you to collect your tip before she sets the beer down.

    Can you get a drink or shot for a custie? When she gets mad..just explain that since she is getting tipped for stripping..you should get tipped for delivering drinks. Hey...only fair.

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    Ugh. No advice here...just wanted to say you are NOT overreacting. At every club I've worked at management makes sure that waitresses and bartenders dress and act like waitresses and bartenders and leave the stripping to the strippers. It's a matter of professionalism. The customers like it? Well, there's a lot of things the customers like but if they were able to have them all the club would turn into a brothel. You have to set guidelines and draw lines.

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    Damn, did you take my evil bartender and fly her out to work with you? I'm sorry you have to deal with this shit, no you're totally not overreacting. I'd be pissed too. Don't really have any advice, but good luck.
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    As stated by all the other posters you are definetly not overeacting....I would also suggest getting the other dancers together and talking to managment....if she wants to strip she needs to pay the damn stage fee, if not she needs to keep her ta tas in her damn shirt....ERR just reading this makes me wanna choke her out

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    This is the way ALL bartenders are around here. It comes with the job. They are also allowed to do lapdances and are expected to jump up on stage when they are short of girls.

    I never minded it. I would mind, however, if a bartender did this while I was entertaining a customer.

    That just throws professional courtesy out the window. She should be an addition to the show, not competition.

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    i've certainly seen shot girls do a set on stage when they've been really short for dancers, but that sounds completely out of control...

    as a customer, i think i'd likely be offended if a bartender/shot girl behaved like that...
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    I really wouldn't care if our waitresses and bartenders occasionally flashed a bewbie or two once in a while, there's enough sexy to go around. But upstaging the dancers with it is unacceptable.
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    ^^ Right. A liberal atmosphere is a good thing, if the intent is to keep everyone upbeat and happily rowdy. But I think both of my scenarios go WAY too far.

    Thanks, y'all, for assuring that I'm not overreacting. Still unsure what to do, if anything. Other dancers at my club grumble quietly about it, but it's not clear whether there's enough support there to really take such a battle to management. I'll think more about that.
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    Default Re: What is acceptable behavior for bartenders and shot girls?

    You might mention to management that they are losing money by not collecting house fees and/or tipouts from women who are performing.

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    I know the club or at least type of club you are referring to and I was having a good oh, my god laugh not at you but because I was always kinda irritated by that scene; but thought what a ripoff. She's losing out on the real money. Don't worry you're probaly making more money than those girls and they dont' have the guts to get up on stage.

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    i agree. no one's clothes should come off unless you are a dancer.

    no bartenders. no waitresses.

    waitresses at my club sell dances for $40!!! i FUME at this. i always bitch when i see them doing it, because i think i should get paid by the hour as well, if they are letting them do that.

    but then i would have to be on a schedule. YUCK

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    I would find some way to upstage her now, when she trys to do this again. She seems like one of those stuck up bitches who thinks she is too good to be an actual stripper. She probably thrives off the fact that she can appeal to the customers and be "hotter than those strippers", without doing the hard stripping work."
    Seriously, upstage her somehow. Bring in a prop, make sure your outfit is better than hers....and get right in there once she starts taking away your tip time. Give her a taste of what actual stripper competition can be like! Good luck.

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    One club that I worked at allowed waitresses to do Champagne Rooms.

    !!!!!!!!!!

    I was so pissed! Not only do they get a wage (small, yes, but SOMETHING), they don't have to pay a house fee, or do stage shows! I can deal with competition form other dancers but not competition from the f-ing waitstaff.
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    the gold club in beaumont tx allows that. NOT COOL.

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    My rules for waitresses:

    - don't chat up the guys or give them your number.
    - don't interupt when I am hustling a guy
    - don't stand there chatting to guys for ages let the dancers hustle them

    I love waitresses who let us know who has money and who doesn't hehe.

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    I totally understand. We have a shot girl that will get up on stage while a stripper is up there and start dancing on the opposite poll, taking her shirt off and all. Nice and classy, eh?
    I'd grab my trumpet and I'd do a stripper sound, like the old Louis Armstrong, real raspy. And the people would go nuts! Then I knew that the sexual, sensual, guttural sound, that throbbing sound, is where it's at.

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    Actually, the 'shot-dances' are $5, but it still sucks. Not only are they doing dances - they put the shot-tube in the guys crotch and lick and suck on it. I mean, fuck, dancers don't get to use props in lap dances. Just to make it even better - I've seen shot-girls grabbing dick at the end of the dance. (Oh, just to clarify, I, also, work at the club with the shot-girls RW is talking about.) And, the shot-girls can do champagne rooms. For some reason, I assumed they had to keep their clothing on during them, but I was in the champagne room the other day when it was crowded, I look out of my 'room', and there's one of the shot-girls buck-naked. Christ, just start dancing already.

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    ^^ I was told that the shot itself is $5, and the dancer keeps $1 of it. I was balffled by that - so possibly I misunderstood . . . I did ask for clarification, though.

    STILL! Even if it were $10, and thus half the price of our dances, it's still bogus if you ask me. (Though I'll happily give you a dance off the clock in NYC next weekend . . . )
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    The bartender outfit really doesnt bother me. Our bartenders have a uniform that management gives them and it is - literally - a corset top and booty shorts with high heel boots. Sure, they get compliments and guys hot on them all the time, but they realize that they are the BARTENDERS not the strippers. In saying that, if any of the bartenders ever pulled one of those stunts while we were dancing, management would be all over their ass.

    Regarding our shot girls - they are all super sweet, but eh furthest Ive seen any of them go was putting a shot between their (covered) boobs and letting the customer take it. Sure, it bothered me a bit, but then the guy turned right around and tipped me, too, so I didnt worry too much about it.

    I'd personally talk to the girls myself, telling them how I feel and stuff. I'd be super polite about it though.
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    One night one of our bartenders was in the club as a customer, not working, dressed in nice clothes. I was sitting with a customer with a lot of money and she was trashed. She came over and tried to get the customer to go in the VIP room with her. While I was sitting there! Bitch, you're not even working!

    A few of our bartenders and waitresses are notorious for doing more dancer-like activities than drink serving.

    I think that toplessness should be reserved for dancers. If it happens once in a while, whatever. But for each dollar? That's crazy. I'd call off one night and say that I'm sure the bartender will cover for me since she shows her tits all the time anyway. Haha.

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    the outfit doesn't bother me at all, like, on a personal level, but I think it makes the club look less "professional" and upscale. Both clubs I work at have the bartenders where uniforms, which I like. As for her behavior? Showing her boobs? That is NOT cool and totally tacky! If she wants to be a stripper, she should be a stripper, but does she need to show her boobs? That sounds fucked up to me.
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    ^^ I was told that the shot itself is $5, and the dancer keeps $1 of it. I was balffled by that - so possibly I misunderstood . . . I did ask for clarification, though.

    STILL! Even if it were $10, and thus half the price of our dances, it's still bogus if you ask me. (Though I'll happily give you a dance off the clock in NYC next weekend . . . )
    Ah - I see - yeah, I think they get to keep a dollar - I was stunned the first time I heard as well. On top of that - they have to pay some huge amount for each tray. It's just a shitty situation all round really - they're getting screwed over, and we, in turn, are getting screwed over by them. The club's the only one winning - shock! Of course, to some extent, it's their own fault for universally giving such hard-core dances - I can point out exactly which one started it too , if the three of us are ever there at the same time.
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