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    I had two guys tell me today that I need to dumb it down. One even said I should drink.( I usually have a glass of wine early in the shift) The one guy I know pretty well and I trust his judgement- he should be a damn psychologist. If my body could have his brain I think I might rule the world.

    So apparently I have a great body. I get told this often enough that I am starting to think there is something to it. But for the life of me can't make the $$$.
    I was reading a little bit of hustle hut, but thought maybe a new thread might bring new ideas. How do I dumb it down???? Apparently I need a stripper personna. A dumb one. Der.
    Maybe I should pencil i a mole on my face too- right on the tip of my nose so they're not so intimidated. Geez.

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    You don't need to dumb it down.
    You need to learn ( takes practice and experience) how to read people and give them what they want.
    Some guys like smart girls, some want ditzy dumb girls. Everyone is different. If you dumb it down all the time, you would be turning off some peopel who actually like smart girls.

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    Default Re: How to dumb it down?

    Frig that I wont act stupid for anyone even if it means loosing a sale. I find ignorance and stupidity extremely unappealing and so do any quality individuals (and customers) IMO.

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    ^^ ehh..not always. My bf, for example is very, very smart. He likes flighty, ditzy girls. he cannot stand stupid people, but he loves flighty girls, he thinks they are fun. At a strip club, he don't want deep intelligent conversation, he wants fun.

    I'm not saying act stupid or clueless. I'm just sayin, not everyone is interested in smart at a strip club.

    I'm very smart, but Im also a very ditzy blonde. I can play up either quality to suite my audience.

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    ^^yep! I don't necessarily "dumb it down", I just act more like a flighty party girl and I have a lot of fun when I get to act like that in real life, so I'm pretty good at faking it too. Act like a smart girl that would rather spend her weekends partying than studying. I don't say anything serious, say things like, "ohmigod, I had soooo much fun last! My friend and I got soooo drunk and we went down on each other!" It helps if you tell a slightly slutty story. Get em thinking about sex, then get their money.

    For variety I sometimes sit down and say, "Is it okay if I sit here for a second? I am soooo drunk!" even if you're totally sober. Throw a hair flip and a smile in there too. It's an easy way to start talking to them.

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    Im not saying have a deep and meaningful conversation, a strip club is usually not the place for it. I just think stupid people are annoying to be around and I refuse to act stupid when I am not. Stupid and ditzy are not my personality and i wont play that card just to make a sale. Acting intelligent but fun works for me I make the $$$$

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    Default Re: How to dumb it down?

    Thanks - it makes more sense now. I need to act more playful and possibly drunk. Is there any good way to fake drinking?

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    Well I have heard some of the ladies on here say that they tell the bartender to pretend to serve them alcohol when the guy pays for it but its really just soda.

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    Tips for acting drunk: Giggle and smile a lot, flip your hair, and say things like, "I'm sooo drunk! Don't tell!" Or, "OMG, my friend just made me do a couple shots with her! I get soooo drunk off shots!" then giggle.

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    There are certain men out there that like to think they can "teach" or "tell" you some things you might not or might already know. Some don't mind a little debate because they don't have a ego problem, some do. I find that the men that "think" they know everything, it's best just to let them think that and long as it's not violating your rights. Some guys are there purely for the ego stroke.

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    Thank you, thank you - keep it coming. I had a really OLD man today tell me I was tense and was probably skinny b/c of my nervous energy. I think it was God and he's funnin' with me b/c last time he said I wasn't happy ( I wasn't). But tonight I sat down with him early to avoid the whole thing and he whipped out the tense thing. Funny thing is a few days ago I had a massage and my back was sooo knotted that it took me 20 min to relax.
    Apparently I need to write up a personna for myself and read it every day before work and be a more convincing actress.

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    I love it when customers tell me i'm a tease. I always say "AH yeah did you know that's why it's called a strip-tease". I make them feel really stupid for saying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mare View Post
    Apparently I need to write up a personna for myself and read it every day before work and be a more convincing actress.

    You've got it. Pick a personality, maybe even one from movies, and play that part until you start feeling comfortable "acting" that way.

    Some girls roll their eyes at this, but I am never me when I go to work. I leave me in the car and become so and so the stripper. Otherwise all my home life bs, bills, chores, everything would weigh on me and would keep me from making great money.

    I'm not a drinker, I can usually have one drink, two max and be fine for the night. More than that and I am useless. So I fake it. Redbull and OJ makes a great fake Momosa (sp?), Redbull and 7 on ice can be anything you want it to be really.

    To pull off acting buzzed, like the other girls said, lots of giggles, relaxed posture or sitting, I'll even go sit by a guy and lean my head against his shoulder and say something like "Whew, a little buzzed here! How 'bout you, are you having any fun?"

    So basically yah, just more relaxed. It may send a signal to guys that you are more fun, easy going and playful. I just don't over do it. Because not every guy likes a drunk blonde (seriously!).

    Good Luck! Give it a shot for a couple of nights and see if it changes anything.




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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    I love it when customers tell me i'm a tease. I always say "AH yeah did you know that's why it's called a strip-tease". I make them feel really stupid for saying it.
    This is actually one of my favorite things that customers say to me. My usual reply is "uhm, hello...occupational hazard?" Insert ditsy laugh and a hair toss here.

    But it tells me two things. One, he's enjoying what I'm doing. Two, he's teased, which means interested, which means he will more likely keep going!

    I'm not sure how this subject came up in this thread, but figured I'd comment on it anyway!




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    Quote Originally Posted by ExoticEngineer View Post
    Because not every guy likes a drunk blonde (seriously!).

    No, not every guy. But I would say a good majority do!!! Shit, I like a drunk blonde! What's not to like?

    And playing a part definitely helps. I can't imagine why anyone would roll their eyes at that. If you can't think of an actress, try to emulate another dancer that you admire.

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    I actually get that pretty frequently. I used the word 'acrimony' when discussing a fight between two dancers a few nights ago, and the guy I was sitting with gave me a dumb look, "Why do YOU know what that means?!"
    That's not even a big word! But I kind of have to put on this half ghetto/half super-party girl facade to 'entertain' the guys in the club.. oh well. I believe that the fact that my parents are educated and upper-middle class (and not from Texas) has given me this accent-less, 'wordy' vernacular. I'm not ashamed that I have a bigger lexicon than most other girls in the club, BUT I do feel the need to mask it occasionally, for the sake of fantasy.
    As far as advice on HOW to dumb it down. have a drink, and keep it 'causal'.. good luck!!

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    I don't even nessessarily think strippers need to "play a part" think abotu it. We are all strippers. For a reason. Which means somewhere, deep down, there is a natural flirty, fun, outgoing personality. Maybe for some, its deeper down than for others, but for every stripper, it's got to be in there somewhere or else you wouldn't be able to do thisjob.
    So all you gotta do is play up that natural ability that you already have. Find it, and play it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaRose View Post
    Tips for acting drunk: Giggle and smile a lot, flip your hair, and say things like, "I'm sooo drunk! Don't tell!" Or, "OMG, my friend just made me do a couple shots with her! I get soooo drunk off shots!" then giggle.
    ... LR, I would actually be careful giving out advice like this. And not just because I come from a no-alcohol full nude club... but because this could be an ENORMOUS turn-off to some/many men. I can think of a ton of customers right now that would NOT go for that. Being playful/flirty is NOT necessarily being DUMB, and is CERtainly not being DRUNK. let's please keep these separate.

    and being DRUNK should not be the mandatory signature of one's playfulness.

    I agree with Kaylinn. Somewhere, we all have what it takes- whether it's a role, our genuine personalities, or our alter egos. Mine is somewhere between my genuine personality and my alter ego. Embyr is the class whore who got straight A's but was too cool for school and hung around after class because she was fucking the professor. ha. See? No dumbing down, but I can be fun, flirty, sexy, and still out-fox (in the most tantalizing way possible) my prey. err, unsuspecting customers. Mare, that type of "role/persona" might be one for you to try. She knows when to know off her IQ and go in for the kill, but knows when to play coy and be reserved.

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    ^ I think it does depend on the club you're in. If you're in a "party" atmosphere club, the cute drunk girl thing usually works. The guys want someone who isn't all aloof and sober and cold. They want someone who's part of the big ol' party. But, I'd also say that the best "tipsy girl" act comes from a more sober girl. Makes you a better actor and more aware of what's going on i.e. what the customer wants. Oh, and it protects you in case you get a guy who's just trying to take advantage of the drunk girl.

    Basically, I guess it all comes down to reading the atmosphere and the individual custy.

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    ^^... um, i mentioned playful, sexy and flirty... where did cold and aloof come in?

    i agree with "it depends..." which is why i posted my response. it also depends dayshift vs. nightshift. good luck pulling off drunk girl act at 11 am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Embyr View Post
    ... LR, I would actually be careful giving out advice like this. And not just because I come from a no-alcohol full nude club... but because this could be an ENORMOUS turn-off to some/many men. I can think of a ton of customers right now that would NOT go for that. Being playful/flirty is NOT necessarily being DUMB, and is CERtainly not being DRUNK. let's please keep these separate.

    and being DRUNK should not be the mandatory signature of one's playfulness.

    I agree with Kaylinn. Somewhere, we all have what it takes- whether it's a role, our genuine personalities, or our alter egos. Mine is somewhere between my genuine personality and my alter ego. Embyr is the class whore who got straight A's but was too cool for school and hung around after class because she was fucking the professor. ha. See? No dumbing down, but I can be fun, flirty, sexy, and still out-fox (in the most tantalizing way possible) my prey. err, unsuspecting customers. Mare, that type of "role/persona" might be one for you to try. She knows when to know off her IQ and go in for the kill, but knows when to play coy and be reserved.
    I'm not saying act like you're tripping over obnoxiously drunk (that would be a turn off to anyone) and obviously not in a no alcohol club. I'm saying be flirty, smiley, girly, giggly, and FUN! Guys are there to have a good time and like to think you are having fun too. Acting drunk, okay not drunk, happily buzzed add to their experience and makes them think you're a lot more fun rather than uptight and serious. Obviously, it won't work for everyone, but flirty/happy/party girl works for me and it's a lot better than "dumbing it down."

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    I don't drink at work, and usually when a guy asks to buy me a drink I decline the offer or get a Diet Coke. I haven't seen it affect my sales at all. But my hustle doesn't usually include sitting at tables with custies. If they want to talk to me, I'll sit with them all day in VIP, but I don't wast my time at the tables. I sometimes also have the bartender put Sprite and a spash of cranberry in a wine glass, and then I carry it around with me. I've tried to get a system going where
    I ask the waitress for a non-alcoholic drink in code, for instance, "I'll have a wine spritzer," or "Vodka cranberry with a twist of lime." Unfortunately I can't get them on the same page to do that. It's frustrating.

    As for "dumbing it down," I can't imagine doing that. I'm not saying you should show off, but if you have a large vocabulary like I do it's pretty difficult to keep it under wraps. The way I see it, the man is buying dances because he likes you, thinks you are sexy looking, and enjoys your company. If some don't think you are ditzy enough, go on to the next. There are actually men out there who can handle intelligent women. And they are usually the ones with money to spend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Embyr View Post
    ^^... um, i mentioned playful, sexy and flirty... where did cold and aloof come in?

    i agree with "it depends..." which is why i posted my response. it also depends dayshift vs. nightshift. good luck pulling off drunk girl act at 11 am.
    I only meant that sometimes the assholes in party atmosphere clubs often tend to percieve the obvious sober thing as cold and aloof. That's where fake dancer drinks and fake tipsiness come in. They are drunk and partying, they want to think that you are too.

    BTW that's why I pointed out that the club I work at, and thus the club where my experiences come from is a party club. Obviously day shifts and no-alcohol clubs are different. And I also pointed out that even if you are faking tipsy, sober is better. Its all about perception on the custies part, and like I said, it depends on ATMOSPHERE.

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