Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 35

Thread: People that tell others to get abortions

  1. #1
    PhillyDancer1982
    Guest

    Angry People that tell others to get abortions

    OK the "childfree" thread opened the flood gates on a few thoughts that I've had recently. Bear with me here, please.

    If one chooses to be childfree, that is fine; they have their reasons, it is their body, and who am I to judge? HOWEVER, I *do* have a problem with one aspect of the childfree thing: People who tell someone pregnant(or someone who has a pregnant S.O.) to get an abortion. As if they think they can make/influence the childfree choice for them.

    I have a guy friend who was in that spot before. He was NOT a feeble-minded teenager who didn't know much about independent living in the real world. He was a college graduate, worked 2 jobs to get by, had established credit, and had recently moved out on his own. He finally felt like he was getting things accomplished in his formerly pitiful/unsuccessful little life. Then he got this girl pregnant. For moral and religious reasons, he was against abortion. Ideally he would have wanted to wait to have a kid, but he realized the consequences of his actions and realized that he had to do the mature, responsible, moral thing to do. Plus, he was not completely incapable of raising a kid...he had an education, a few jobs, basically he felt decently established. Yet a lot of his friends kept mentioning abortion as an option, to the point that it got really really catty. That is just wrong.

    Some of these "abortion influencers" were people who had kids themselves! Ohhhh it was okay for them to have kid after kid, but not okay for my guy friend(who was more established than them, or at least in my opinion) not to? They also kept pointing out my guy friend's "flaws," such as the fact that he had to work 2 jobs to get by(oh way to go, bash the guy's overambitious work ethic and never-give-up attitude!). That hurt my guy friend's feelings, because here he'd felt that he'd made progress(financial/career/etc) and apparently these people didn't think it was "good enough." And when I was in that spot several years ago, people did the same thing to me(although I actually *was* in a bad spot at the time, working a shitty retail gig and being thisclose to getting kicked out of my house).

    Please note: I am NOT bashing anyone who's ever gotten an abortion. People have their reasons, and I should not judge. The ONLY thing that I am bashing, are people that keep pressing the idea of "abortion" as much as a stripper offers lapdances or a used carsaleman pushes a sale. It is rude and messed up.

    Comments anyone?

  2. #2
    Featured Member flickad's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    1,860
    Thanks
    268
    Thanked 103 Times in 67 Posts
    My Mood
    Pensive

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    I think it's rude to comment on ANYONE's reproductive choices unless your advice is specifically sought.

    Please note that I am pro-choice. I don't think there's anything wrong with abortion, but I do think it's presumptuous and insulting, to say the least, to give unsolicited advice to terminate a wanted pregnancy. However, that cuts both ways. Unsolicited advice from pro-lifers to a woman seeking an abortion (such as 'please don't kill your baby') is also hideously unwarranted. Same goes for unasked for, unwanted advice to the childree such as 'you'll change your mind' , 'there's no greater joy than having children' and so on ad nauseum. People should keep their noses out of other people's uteruses (and beds). I don't see why it should be so difficult for everyone to just mind their own fucking business.

  3. #3
    PhillyDancer1982
    Guest

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    ^ Thanks for your feedback. Let me reclarify something though. The "get an abortion" advice wasn't completely unsolicited. My guy friend confided in his fairly close friends(me being included in that group) about the pregnancy, and asked for advice as far as what baby expenses to budget for, the best way to go about doing that, etc. He had some honest concerns that he was a bit of a worry wort about(although he's very sensitive and worries too much sometimes). For example, he asked a question to one of his friends(who has 2 kids), and the friend responded, "Yeah I have a solution. An abortion. I'm sorry I sounded so harsh, but I just think it'll be really hard for you."

    He never actually asked what he should do(abortion, adoption, raise the kid, etc)...it's more that he asked about advice on things related to raising the kid, and the people started judging him to be "not ready" and stuff that is really very annoying.

  4. #4
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Feb 2005
    Location
    whine country
    Posts
    812
    Thanks
    11
    Thanked 253 Times in 139 Posts

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    Um...No offense meant here, but even if the "abortion influencers" had changed his decision, the problem is he's not the one that's pregnant and what he wants at this point doesn't matter. If his religious and moral standards are so high, maybe he shouldn't be having unprotected sex with someone who is not yet his wife.

  5. #5
    Veteran Member
    Joined
    May 2007
    Location
    Melbourne, Aus
    Posts
    452
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    ok before I post this, I am not 'endorsing' abortions

    Ok, here is what I want to know!

    You have a very good friend, who since dancing has established a coke addiction (lives off it basically) she can not funciton with out it. She is suicidal and lives a very unstable lifestyle (lives off money night by night and always behind in rent)

    girl meets a boy 2 times older then her (she is in her mid 20's and he is 40-something years old)

    The boy and girl have been 'seeing' each other for 5 months, she is obviously stressed by him due to her attempt at suicide which include a goodbye note. I found her in her appartment tv going, drugs and alcohol all over the floor, shower is running, she is passed out in bed naked, flowers @ the door, which had a note from the fuckwit b/f saying IM SORRY ... You have to force her to go to the hosipital in an ambulance - with police escorting her.

    She comes to a photoshoot, she drinks a bottle of champagne just to get into the mood and then the next day tells you that she is 1 1/2 months pregnant

    When she told me she was pregnant, I said 'your not keeping it right' and she replies well yeah, we can live off his pay check and I will dance until my tummy is showing, then I will get another job I said oh ok, well good luck I gtg!

    Now I am not at all for or against abortions, but I do think that some where friends do need to step in and help one another. and I and many others know she is incapable of looking after herself let alone a baby who can barely fend for itself!

    I know that what I did was neither wrong or right, it was offering my assistance and opinion. As a friend I would rather not see her suffer with a fuck wit who is with her for the good times (money wise) His already bumming off her by living with her in her small (and I mean very small) apartment

    I only hope that what ever decision she makes is life changing, whether she keeps it or not!

    I am so upset with the fact that only 6 months ago my SIL was fleeing hospital and leaving a baby in the state care, until she realised that she had a baby (again due to drugs involved) the baby is now living a very happy life, with out the mother in it - as the mother was/has never been able to look after herself!

    I would hate to think another child ended up in the legal system and not living a normal life! I would also hate to think a baby is dumped again due to drugs!

    Flash backs on the weekend occured when this news story come a very heated debate http://www.bordermail.com.au/news/bm...al/785825.html

    Call me nasty or a bitch - I dont care. But until you personally have seen the effects of a baby bought up by a mother who is incapable to look after herself, then and only then should you be able to comment!

  6. #6
    PhillyDancer1982
    Guest

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    Quote Originally Posted by ALee View Post
    Now I am not at all for or against abortions, but I do think that some where friends do need to step in and help one another. and I and many others know she is incapable of looking after herself let alone a baby who can barely fend for itself!

    . . .

    I would hate to think another child ended up in the legal system and not living a normal life! I would also hate to think a baby is dumped again due to drugs!

    Flash backs on the weekend occured when this news story come a very heated debate

    Call me nasty or a bitch - I dont care. But until you personally have seen the effects of a baby bought up by a mother who is incapable to look after herself, then and only then should you be able to comment!
    I understand where you are coming from, with worrying about your coke-addicted friend being a good parent to this kid...or your fears that the kid will grow up traumatized, or grow up on public assistance that comes from our taxes. I can actually see where abortion might not be completely bad in this case, since your friend did a lot of drugs and drinking during pregnancy. This is because there is high risk that a baby exposed to high levels of drugs may result in being severely disabled. So perhaps suggesting it, and using the drug/alcohol thing affecting fetal development as a logical reason, isn't completely bad. It's only bad when it gets to the point that she decides to keep the kid, and you hotly disagree with her.

    I am against abortion for myself, but not against abortion in general(that's why I vote Pro-Choice). I believe that abortion is okay in the event of rape, the mother's life being endangered, or in the event that the baby might turn out to be severely disabled.

    Now here's where the BIG difference comes in. Whereas your friend was drug-addicted, psychologically unstable, financially unstable, etc...MY friend was educated, finished with school, sober/straight-edge, financially stable, had good credit, had a few assets, etc. The things that my friend was lacking, were:
    1) a serious relationship with the girl
    2) the ability to "get by" with less than 2 jobs(and I understand that being a parent means having to spend LESS time at work, since you need time to care for and look after the baby)

    But my friend was looking to improve on BOTH of those. You think he *wanted* to work that stupid 2nd job to make the bills?...he was jobsearching diligently(for quite some time) for a better day job so that he wouldn't have to work both jobs. He already had the degree to qualify, now it came down to what places would hire him. As for the relationship, he was willing to sacrifice a dating life and settle down with this one girl...just for the sake of raising the kid!

    So while my friend was a much better candidate for parenthood than this coke-addicted friend, people STILL said the same comments: "You're not keeping it, right?" Can you see why it was so angering? My friend was NOT a cokehead.

  7. #7
    Featured Member needtodance's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Dear FSM plz send money to Oregon K luv you bye
    Posts
    1,491
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    Anyone commenting on anyone elses reproductive choices is wrong in my book...

    IF your friend wants to keep teh child, then his friends should have limited themselves to answering his questions about expenses. Or saying ONCE "are you sure you're ready" and then dropping it.

    Nosyness and invasions of privacy occur on all sides of the abortion issue. Its between him, and her, no one else.

  8. #8
    PhillyDancer1982
    Guest

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    ^ Thank you.

    It also is weird when people congratulate certain people that aren't nearly as mature or financially stable as my guy friend was.

    By the way, I guess I should add...this happened like a few months ago, and the pregnancy never went through. My guy friend's girl ended up miscarrying(which is somewhat common for very early pregnancies).

    I guess it's more about the principle of it, than anything. In the end, my guy friend didn't have to worry about the expenses or staying with the girl for the sake of a kid...but it was still an annoyance for my friend to have people discouraging him, but then soon after see people congratulating another person who ended up pregnant but didn't appear to have any "added benefit" that my friend didn't(financially, maturity-wise, education-wise, etc).

  9. #9
    Featured Member Paintbaby's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2005
    Location
    canada
    Posts
    884
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    I agree Philly, no one should ever tell another woman what to do with her body--it is her choice to get an abortion or not. But just to clarify one thing I may have miscontrued in your post--"childfree" isn't about telling others to get an abortion. It is about making the choice for ourselves to remain childfree. We don't force our choices on others, and expect others to others to respect our choices. Anyone telling someone else to get an abortion is incredibly intrusive--although I can understand why concerned parties(the father, family members) would suggest it in less than optimal circumstances. Ultimately, it is up to the mother though--and her choice is to be respected.

  10. #10
    PhillyDancer1982
    Guest

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintbaby View Post
    I agree Philly, no one should ever tell another woman what to do with her body--it is her choice to get an abortion or not. But just to clarify one thing I may have miscontrued in your post--"childfree" isn't about telling others to get an abortion. It is about making the choice for ourselves to remain childfree. We don't force our choices on others, and expect others to others to respect our choices. Anyone telling someone else to get an abortion is incredibly intrusive--although I can understand why concerned parties(the father, family members) would suggest it in less than optimal circumstances. Ultimately, it is up to the mother though--and her choice is to be respected.
    Oh I definitely agree with you..."childfree" does NOT necessarily equal "supports abortion" or "tells others to get an abortion." They are two different and separate things. I am sure that there are some people who never want to have kids, but still might be opposed to abortion. Also, I KNOW that there are some people who HAVE kids, and keep having more, yet THEY'RE the ones promoting the idea of "abortion" onto my friends! Hopefully I clarified that point.

    But yeah, I agree with you saying that it is up to the mother. Thank you.

  11. #11
    Featured Member Fawn's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    1,650
    Thanks
    48
    Thanked 24 Times in 16 Posts

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    I have told completely unstable friends who had no buisness that if I were in that situation that is what I'd do... and that they should think about their options and consequences of all before making a descision.

    Recently, I thoguht i was pregnant, and I had one friend tell me that I'd go to hell if I had an abortion. I thought that was very very rude. And then she tried to ask about all the reasons I wouldn't hav ethe baby, like who the father would have been, because of his lack of good job etc. He had nothing to do with it. I was insulted, especially since I said that this was the only choice I would be making, and to drop it. She still kept trying to convince me it was against gods will, I would burn in hell, how could I look at her child etc. I started my period the next day. That was earlier this week.
    " Remember during each test there is some girl in Australia jealous of you who wants to do what you're doing."- Lilithmorrigan

    " If you're young and sexy, why not spend a few years
    Shopping and Fucking? Life is short, but youth is shorter. Ride the wheels off, I say." - FeministStripper

  12. #12
    God/dess Andygirl's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2006
    Location
    The VIP room
    Posts
    3,621
    Thanks
    47
    Thanked 187 Times in 58 Posts

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    I don't think suggesting abortion as an alterative is any worse than badgering and guilting someone into having a baby they don't want/aren't ready for.

    That said, it's a personal issue and I wouldn't put in my .02 unless directly asked.
    Check out my new eBay auctions.......

  13. #13
    Curious Guest Nightshift Nikki's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2007
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    11
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    I must admit I have thought to myself that some people should not be bringing kids in the world. I would never tell someone else such a thing though because I sure wouldn't want people telling to when or why have a baby or not to have one.

  14. #14
    Banned rozz's Avatar
    Joined
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Taxachusetts
    Posts
    2,369
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    I'm prochoice. I'm for choice. That doesn't mean that choice should necessarily be for an abortion. You choose what's right for you. No one else should have a say in it or push you in any direction.

  15. #15
    God/dess leilanicandy's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2005
    Location
    where they like American Boys
    Posts
    2,111
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    you know abortion is a big issues, because of the pain you can go thru after it! Is not good! Sometimes people get abortions and it affect thier ability to have kids in the future. It is your decision! I tell people. Yet their are differant reason why people get it and it is exceptable. It is the two adults who will have to live with that burden. That burden is not light! So I tried to be as supportive as I can, yet let them know this is a life changing decision.
    If you want the present to be differant from the past, study the past.
    Baruch Spindza

    It is what it is, not what you want it to become, that's important -- at least for now. Today, remember that things worth having are worth waiting for!
    The Stars

    Minds are like parachutes: They only function when open.
    Thomas Dewar

    Dont throw away the old bucket until you know whether the new one holds water.
    Swedish Proverb

  16. #16
    cameron_keys
    Guest

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    He didnt ask whether the kid should be born..he asked for advice on how to care for it. to me..that would mean he and the girl have already made the decision to have and raise it.

    Choice is choice..I agree with Rozz. Abortion can be the best choice for some, and the worst for others. Ditto with having the baby....best OR worst...it all depends on you.

    Even if I WAS asked for my opinion on whether to have the baby or not..I wouldnt give it. I would go over pros and cons for both and try to help THEM make a decision if asked.....but it is WAY too personal a choice to ake for anyone else.

    ANYONE who tells someone they SHOULD get an abortion or that they SHOULD have the baby is just wrong. Nobody can make that decision but the parents...and ultimatley in cases of differing opinions between the guy and girl...the girl has to have the final say.

  17. #17
    Picaresque
    Guest

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    Quote Originally Posted by Andygirl View Post
    I don't think suggesting abortion as an alterative is any worse than badgering and guilting someone into having a baby they don't want/aren't ready for.

    That said, it's a personal issue and I wouldn't put in my .02 unless directly asked.
    agreed, and agreed.

    honestly, whenever I hear of someone getting pregnant in less than ideal circumstances (not financially stable, doesn't really WANT kids but is being pressured into keeping it, in a toxic or unstable relationship, no education, etc.) my first thought is "why would you keep it and ruin your life? I thought you were smarter than that."

    But I would never actually SAY that out loud in response. I realize that's just my opinion and they didn't ask for it. Just like if I got pregnant and had an abortion, I woldn't be asking for all kinds of stupid "don't kill your baby" opinions.

  18. #18
    Veteran Member datchapin's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2006
    Location
    H-town
    Posts
    260
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    You know, I've been asked by friends or aquaintances about what they think they should do. I always respond by saying I don't give a fuck what they do. I'm not being insensitive, the way I see it is like this. Having a kid is a big decision and if you don't want one, take the proper precautions. It's like they have un-protected sex without using birth control pills or any other pre-cautions and then they end up pregnant and what they say is sobbing, I don't know how this happened. People that ask this messed up and I'm not about to get involved in their drama, people that don't ask know what they wanna do so I don't need to worry about them.
    The more I see, the less I know, the more I like to let it go! - RHCP

  19. #19
    God/dess
    Joined
    May 2004
    Posts
    6,336
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    No one should pressure anyone in such an important decision.

    But, we live in a world filled with outside pressures. Sometimes abortion is what is needed and sometimes it isn't. Do I think it's wrong for friends and family to make options known to the pregnant persons? No. But to keep pestering because they have the "right" answer? Yes.



    Because there ain't no tits on the radio

  20. #20
    Lola Rose
    Guest

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    Ya, people do a lot of things they shouldn't and this is one.

    When I was pregnant, I even had doctors advise it, sometimes pushy.

    it's unwanted advice, which is always innappropriate. Weather it's about a hair cut or a family decision, people should keep their mouths shut.

  21. #21
    God/dess xdamage's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2004
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    5,449
    Thanks
    74
    Thanked 165 Times in 119 Posts

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    I believe in ProChoice. Giving advice is something people do about many topics, but this is one that I'd say falls into the realm of best not done because the emotional issue and physical risks are complex, and very personal. However of course if someone asks for advise about this, that's another matter. That said, I guess I can imagine cases where it was so clear that the person is incapable of raising a child (e.g., due to mental illness, drug addiction, some other reasons) that I wouldn't feel completely offended if someone advised them to consider the abortion option.

    From a strictly practical point of view, advising someone to abort falls into the realm of advising them to have a medical procedure. That's not something people should advise lightly if at all. There are risks associated with it, and for someone who seriously does plan to have kids later in life, their is a very real risk that an abortion now puts them at risk of not being able to have children later. I think some people think of abortion as post-conception birth control, but the risks of abortion are often far greater then the risks of B.C.

  22. #22
    Featured Member flickad's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    1,860
    Thanks
    268
    Thanked 103 Times in 67 Posts
    My Mood
    Pensive

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    Quote Originally Posted by xdamage View Post
    I believe in ProChoice. Giving advice is something people do about many topics, but this is one that I'd say falls into the realm of best not done because the emotional issue and physical risks are complex, and very personal. However of course if someone asks for advise about this, that's another matter. That said, I guess I can imagine cases where it was so clear that the person is incapable of raising a child (e.g., due to mental illness, drug addiction, some other reasons) that I wouldn't feel completely offended if someone advised them to consider the abortion option.

    From a strictly practical point of view, advising someone to abort falls into the realm of advising them to have a medical procedure. That's not something people should advise lightly if at all. There are risks associated with it, and for someone who seriously does plan to have kids later in life, their is a very real risk that an abortion now puts them at risk of not being able to have children later. I think some people think of abortion as post-conception birth control, but the risks of abortion are often far greater then the risks of B.C.

    Actually, statistically speaking, abortion is less risky than carrying to term.

  23. #23
    God/dess jaizaine's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2006
    Location
    melbourne australia
    Posts
    10,144
    Thanks
    328
    Thanked 219 Times in 133 Posts

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    I am prochoice. I also don't agree with the set of approved reasons that one should be able to get an abortion. I think a woman should be able to get an abortion not just if her health is threatened but if she does not want the child.

    In Victoria abortion is illegal except if the woman's life or health is threatened. Of course this is given a wide definition and health includes financial health and her emotional health - thankfully.

    I don't think anyone should push another person to get an abortion but I think it's ok to express an opinion. I know if I had of gotten pregnant as a teenager my parents would have told me to get one. They would not have forced me but they definately would have advised it.

    My best friend fell pregnant to her boyfriend of 5 years and he threatened to kill himself (throw himself in front of a bus) if she didn't abort the child. He was crying like a baby saying he didn't want his life ruined by having a child. She aborted the child and it haunts her to this day.
    I understood his point of view. But he did choose to have unprotected sex. However she now feels that she made a mistake and she now has 2 children of her own. I don't think she will ever get over having the abortion. I think that goes to show that it should always be the woman's decision and not too overly influenced by others.

  24. #24
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    947
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    You know, the guy has an input but the bottom line is, it's the WOMAN'S choice. At the end of the day, having a choice means sometimes, ppl make the wrong choices- but that's the risk with being allowed to decide for yourself what to do- whether it's having a child and regretting it, or having an abortion and regretting it.

    I discuss the pros and cons with people whenever I've been consulted on this issue, and I give my personal opinion only when asked, but I never, ever pressure someone. Their body, their choice, it's not my life on the line.

  25. #25
    God/dess UtahMike's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Utah
    Posts
    2,998
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 64 Times in 43 Posts
    My Mood
    Amused

    Default Re: People that tell others to get abortions

    About some abortions:

    In the late 60s/early 70s, I knew a college girl that I wanted to date, but she never went out with anyone. Her brother told me to give it up. She never dated anyone because she had got pregnant, and went to a gynocologist to ask about getting an abortion. The doctor told her all sorts of things to try that could cause a miscarriage. (Abortion was illegal in Utah at that time.) She remained pregnant, so he did an emergency "D & C." She went home to the apartment she shared with her brother, and later that night went into false labor and was in labor for three days. She did not have to drop out of college and raise a child as a single mother, but she would never date, either, because of the guy who had sex with her and skipped out when she became pregnant. Her father's insurance paid for the D&C.

    Next abortion: I was at church and sang in the choir. A young couple also sang in the choir, but one Sunday, she sat in the choir and he sat downstairs. It seems she had told him on the way to church that she was pregnant, expecting a happy reaction, but instead he told her that his career as a radio disk jockey was just about to take off and he couldn't have a baby at that point in his life, so she wpuld have to get an abortion. I actually don't know whether they got an abortion or not, because they never came back to church again. I never heard his voice on the radio again, either.

    Next abortion: My friend's daughter was happily married and expecting her first child, when medical investigation determined that it was not a baby but a "hyatic mole." This is a condition where the fertilized cell does not develop into a baby, but into a mass of cells which looks like a bunch of grapes made out of meat, with perhaps a toenail here and an eyeball there. It cannot live outside the mother and will never develop into a baby. She had an abortion and went on to have three fine, healthy children.

    Next abortion: My friend's sister's baby died inside her. She could have carried a dead baby to term, but instead she got an abortion. She already had some children, but never tried to have another one.

    Last abortion: I think this is the ugliest one.

    My friend's sister from Las Vegas came to visit and we took her out to dinner, drinks, and dancing at a private club on top of a local hotel. The sister was the center of attention from all the single men in the room because she was beautiful, personable, a good dancer, etc. When we went home, the sister stayed at the club. I asked my friend if her sister would be OK, and she told me she knew how to handle men because...

    She was a professional mistress from Las Vegas. She had once been a concert pianist, but one night at a party while drunk, she fell through a glass coffee table and cut all the tendons in her wrists. She could never play the piano again, and she felt her only other talent was sex, so she became a mistress for wealthy men. She had had SEVEN abortions by that time.

    When I asked my friend why she didn't use birth control, she said that the men for whom she was a mistress would not have anything to do with her unless she was "natural," and that meant no birth control of any kind. But they did not want illegitimate children as potential heirs either, so every pregnancy was terminated with an abortion.

    So--were any of these right? Wrong? It's a decision to be made between a woman and her doctor, and hopefully there is also a husband or significant other who is involved and supportive who should have some input, too.

    But, if they outlawed abortion throughout the land, that mistress from Vegas would still be having abortions. Probably still is.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 13
    Last Post: 09-01-2008, 09:22 PM
  2. Death Certificates for Abortions?
    By gingerlee in forum Member Boards
    Replies: 39
    Last Post: 06-17-2007, 06:26 PM
  3. Married Lesbians getting abortions
    By BigGreenMnM in forum Political Poo
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 04-08-2005, 05:35 PM
  4. Replies: 11
    Last Post: 07-25-2004, 11:28 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •