AZ Club folk do you notice a decrease in business? I heard from a DJ that it was end of season, is it?![]()
AZ Club folk do you notice a decrease in business? I heard from a DJ that it was end of season, is it?![]()
Every year in Vegas, I see it getting slower and slower. When I moved here, it was May. I didn't know about the slow season, and I worked all through the summer, and it was good. I made descent money. Then the next summer it was worse, the next summer it was even worse....This summer, I expect the trend to continue. Even our good season this year sucked. I would look foward to certain conventions where in pas years I could make thousands a night...only to make a few hundred.
Sorry..I know this doesn't pertain to Phoenix, but I'm just pointing out that business is slowing down everywhere.





^That it is. I think it's just a bigger shock in Phoenix right now because it seemed to shift down all of a sudden. But I recall even last fall and winter I wasn't making nearly what I expected here, or what I'd made the 2 years before. It's just gotten REALLY bad really fast lately because of summer and everyone wants to blame it on the smoking ban.
running off to decide which city to travel to next





It's slowed down out in the rural areas I work in too. The farmers are all out working in the fields supposedly. Winter supposedly should be busy because the farmers aren't working, but every winter gets slower and slower.
EVERYWHERE there are more slow days than busy ones in my opinion. As DW says, it's better to stay put if you're in a club you are somewhat popular at and are in fairly good with the staff.
Let me give you an example.One of the clubs I book a week a month at, tracks dances, and we all strive to get 80 dances minimum for the 6 day week. We get an extra $10 tacked on to our weeks base pay for every 20 dances we sell (the club gets $5 per dance).
It has been slow, but when all the other girls sold 5 dances or less one night, I sold 13, over half of them attributed to guys I knew buying from me. My wealthy regular came in 2 nights and bought his usual 10 dances. Without him, I only sold 4 dances one night, and 6 the next. I am ahead of the other girls, and one of the top sellers here due to being known (I have been booking here for the last 4.5 years).
And several of these guys who used to come in every month I haven't seen since November. One has been sick, but that is not the case for the others.
Another club I book randomly I am not so popular at, but usually was able to make middle to upper teens for the week, including club base pay, and I barely hit $1000 the last time I was there. The business has been dropping there the last year or so.
Last week I had a good week at another club, and more than doubled what I earned the week before, but at that same club my fiancee' was in selling costumes one night this week, and only one girl bought. And her customer gave her the money at that. They looked, but complained it was slow. I know part of it is that many dancers are lazy, and live hand to mouth, but still money is hit and miss now. And I had some customers who know me, who contributed to about 1/3 of my earnings last week.
Bottom line, if you're in a club with somewhat of a steady earnings potential, you need to stay put, keep in touch with your admiring customers who generally buy a few dances from you every time they see you, and stick to a regular schedule. If you're dancing as your only source of income and you're not at work at least 18-20 days per month, how will you live? Even if you're having $50 to $100 nights, if you are popular, you WILL have some $200-$500 or more in the mix if you work this like an office job.
But, if those under $100 days (and those where you aren't making payout back are becoming the norm) , maybe it's time to look elsewhere.





Interesting Kaylinn, thank you for contributing.
Second only to tourism what do you think the #2 industry in Nevada is?
Also, keep in mind that averaging $200 per night IN CASH is the same as earning $75K as a full time employee. I'm not kidding: Do the math and then factor in the 28% income tax bracket.
Rebecca Avalon





Ditto Tina.
I just checked my stripper email. REGULAR CUSTOMERS are the only thing that will save your @$$ this summer.
My best client EVER just sent me a message to make sure I was in town the last week in June so he could "book" a three hour minimum on Mon, Tues, and Wed. He pays me the San Francisco rate (4 per hour) plus he feels guilty about missing our appt back in March.
BINGO there's my monthly household bills paid off with ONE sale.
Now, some might attribute this to "luck" but I beg to differ. The only way I came come across this opportunity was by sticking at the same place, and building a relationship with clients. I've known this guy for almost two years, and the first year he didn't have my email, but rather knew that if he came in on a tues or wed around 8 I'd be there. I gave him my email after I MISSED him last July because I was LAZY and played hooky one week because I felt fat. What an expensive lesson to learn!
Rebecca Avalon





I'm gonna go out on a limb here......do you HONESTLY report every single dollar you make at the strip club? Or MAYBE do you pay your groceries, gasoline, in cash. If so, kudos to you, but I'm going to bet that 99.9% of our peers do not. And not just strippers, EVERY business that gets paid in cash tends to under-report annual earnings (i.e. the "tax gap" Bush is working hard to close)
Secondly, the deductions that are allowed as a business owner that are NOT allowed as an employee will greatly outweigh the measly extra 6% Social Security tax you have to pay. To make the argument that $200 of net income before taxes for an employee is "better" than $200 of business revenue is flat out wrong. You can fool yourself into thinking that it is, but that mentality is EXACTLY the reason why the income gap between the wealthy and the middle class is widening.
The tax system was designed to give breaks to business OWNERS not the employees. This is why employees never get rich but the guy he works for does.
Even well paying commission based jobs.....you can be sure the business owner who is writing the check made more $$ than the person he is giving a "commission" to.
Unfortunately our "business" is self-owned and operated. We can't hire someone to go do the dances for us and collect a portion of the profits....(unless you own an escort agency/private dancer company)
Rebecca Avalon
Unfortunately, I think it's the economy going down the shitter in general, not just this industry. Even the deli I work at is slowing down! Tips sucked this week!
Didn't ever feel like season to me! And yes, whatever the reason, it sucks right now!! Thank God I've got my regs.





That would be my guess too, I'm guessing it's not just happening in AZ either, it's bound to happens when you have stagnant wages coupled with rising inflation and higher personal debt. There's just less disposable income available to most people nowdays. I doubt there's been a study on it, but I'm guessing your industry mirrors the economy very closely, the good news there being that it is also cyclical and as such bound to rebound at some point.
Last edited by Richard_Head; 05-19-2007 at 11:07 AM.
Hey, business reminded me of the SC yesterday. Know how dancers always say "It only takes one customer to make your day"?
Well, a nice doctor tipped me $40 on a $200 catering(And I didn't even have to set it up!)



That goes both ways darlin! Reading the pink and blue boards is almost always entertaining, but lately the tone has become very negative, with a sense that all this fun is about to end for everyone, dancers and customers.
That's why it is SOOOOOO great to walk into a club, see a familiar face, be recognized, and then have such an awesome time that you forget all your problems for awhile, and just soak up the fun with a gorgeous pal. THAT is why I go to SCs. I hope to see you (and Ms. M) again very soon!![]()
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