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    High_Heel_Lover
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    My husband gets kinda "ugh" when it comes to correct terms and names for a race or culture and he's got this thing about latin people, he says "I don't understand why they call hispanics latin they don't speak latin, no one does, it's a dead language and no one really knows if the pronunciation of the latin language is even correct" anyone care to educate me?

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    As one who taught Latin, we do indeed know the correct pronunciation of Latin (and it's different from the way the Catholic church pronounces it; they applied Italian pronunciation rules to Latin writings). Latinos are referred to as "Latin-American" because South and Central America were colonized by Latin powers - Spaniards and Portuguese. "Latin" doesn't just refer to the language the Romans spoke, but also cultures which grew from the Holy Roman Empire. Most often it refers to the Spanish (occasionally French, Portuguese, and Italian as well) and their descendants in the New World. Actually if I remember right, the French were the ones who coined the term "Latin America."

    "Hispanic," OTOH, is considered to be an offensive term by many Latinos. I forget why exactly, but I think it has something to do with the fact that white government officials created the term to lump all Latinos into one ethnicity, when in fact there are many different cultures and even languages among the world's Latin population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    "Hispanic," OTOH, is considered to be an offensive term by many Latinos. I forget why exactly, but I think it has something to do with the fact that white government officials created the term to lump all Latinos into one ethnicity, when in fact there are many different cultures and even languages among the world's Latin population.
    The term "Hispanic" was created by the U.S. government to classify those who have ancestral ties to Latin America, Spain and the Spanish-speaking Caribbean. Due to anger over the Spanish conquest of Latin America's indigenous peoples, many people of Latin American descent find it insulting to be labeled as "Hispanic."

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    ^^^ Makes sense. Plus many Latinos don't even speak Spanish (Brazilians speak Portuguese, Haitians speak French, etc). I can see how "Hispanic" could be considered offensive in that regard.

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    Good to know. Thanks guys!
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    Brian said this...ok so he didn't say it but he said read this.





    Hispano, Portuguese Hispânico, Catalan: Hispà, from Latin Hispānus, adjective from Hispānia, the Roman name for the Iberian Peninsula) is a term that historically denoted relation to the ancient Hispania and its peoples. However, when the modern day country of Spain was created in the 15th century, it inherited the term, and thus, since then, Hispanic is also related to Spain, its people and its culture. In this process, Portugal was excluded from the term, despite the fact that the territory that nowadays covers was also in the former Hispania[1]. Instead of Hispanic, Portugal adopted the word Lusitanic for the same purposes (in reference to the former Roman province of Lusitania, which was a part Hispania; ultimately, regarding to the Lusitanians, one of the first Indo-European tribes to settle Europe). With the expansion of the Spanish Empire, the peoples from Spain spread all over the world, creating new colonies and giving place to the Hispanophone. This expansion was mainly concentrated in the Americas, especially in what is called the Hispanic America, which comprises all those countries from the Americas that once belonged to the Spanish Empire and where the Spanish influence is still present (Brazil not being included since it was settled by the Portuguese, the separation between the terms Hispanic regarding to Spain and Lusitanic regarding to Portugal was already effective). These countries, inherited the cultural and ancestral legacy of the Spaniards, and in consequence, their peoples and their cultures are also considered as Hispanic. Nowadays, the peoples from Hispanic America who live in the United States have developed their own identity with an unquestionable Hispanic substrate, and are also considered Hispanic[2][3].

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    Actually, 'Hispanic' is the original term from the Romans, to refer to people living in what they called 'Hispania', which is what we now call the Iberian Peninsula. When Spain was formed in the 15th century, they inherited the term.



    The differences between 'hispanic' and 'latino' are illustratrated in the section entitled "Synonyms and Antonyms". Basically, both terms are used primarily to socially differentiate, and can both be discriminatory.

    With regard to the latin language, there is an institutionally accepted method of pronunciation which differs from the Roman Catholic Church's. As with any other dead language however, such as old english or many other ancient germanic tongues, there are 'fluent' speakers but no 'native' ones with which to compare our pronunciation. In defense of historical linguistics scholars, they're probably pretty close.

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