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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    If I ask a guy to pay up front it is because I think he's shifty. I lack prevarication so I'll tell him that if he is insistent about asking ("I'm worried that I might not get paid if I do it after. Please pay me now.") If they get offended and refuse, I generally accept that as confirmation of my feelings. That is, I don't look at it as a lost sale, I look at it as a failed attempt to rip me off. Hey, I trust myself.

    If a guy doesn't pay me immediately after the dances I say "Shall we settle?" It's polite, it doesn't necessarily end the conversation or interaction it just reminds him (because sometimes they are unsure about when to pay - they frequently don't want to get out their money and hold it out while I'm like putting on my panties or something). It's a signal that yes, this is a good time.
    Best answer I've ever read. If a dancer has recently been ripped off, she may distrust every customer, and they in turn will feel distrusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2 View Post
    Best answer I've ever read. If a dancer has recently been ripped off, she may distrust every customer, and they in turn will feel distrusted.
    Well... except that doesn't bear even a slight resemblance to what I said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    Well... except that doesn't bear even a slight resemblance to what I said.
    I should have begun with However...

    You have an intelligent process that works for you. In my metro area, dancers always collect after the dances. The very few who ask everyone for payment up front have typically been ripped off that week. It's easy to guess what happened.

    When they recount the incident, I suggest a loss prevention model that makes them more attractive to honest customers. Hereafter, I will suggest your process and reasoning as well.

    Theft of intimacy at whatever level can be traumatic. I try to have empathy for dancers, but I don't care enough to have thought about it the way you did.

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    I prefer to get the money for the FIRST song upfront, not so much because of the ripoff risk, but because I don't know if the guy is going to be really grabby. I want the option to stop the dance at any time if he breaks the rules & not have to worry about haggling over the cost. After that, if we're continuing, I just collect all the remaining money at the end.

    That said, I don't make a huge fuss about ALWAYS having to have the first $20 upfront, though I will insist on it if the guy has shown blatant signs of being touchy. Generally, though, if it fits with our flow to get the first dance upfront, great. Just saying that is my preference.
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    I very rarely ask a guy to pay up front. If I do he's probably been rude to me or is super wasted and I'm not sure if I will get paid.

    Generally, the end of the dance/ dances is what's expected...

    EXCEPT IN VIP

    VIP is ALWAYS up front, esp where I'm from.
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    Perhaps you stopped spending money on her. Strippers need money to operate. They are like coin operated juke-boxes of love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2 View Post
    I should have begun with However...

    You have an intelligent process that works for you. In my metro area, dancers always collect after the dances. The very few who ask everyone for payment up front have typically been ripped off that week. It's easy to guess what happened.

    When they recount the incident, I suggest a loss prevention model that makes them more attractive to honest customers. Hereafter, I will suggest your process and reasoning as well.

    Theft of intimacy at whatever level can be traumatic. I try to have empathy for dancers, but I don't care enough to have thought about it the way you did.
    Oh, yeah, you don't want to hear me get started - and yet I will anyway. What makes me nuts on being ripped off is not so much the loss (it's seldom that much) it's that customers seem to view stealing from me as "not stealing"; like the act of paying me for the damn service is a fucking gift or something. Like, the money isn't really mine, I'm not really working, the money really belongs to whatever guy gave it to me, and some other guy is just going to make it up anyway. It makes me really, really mad. But - doesn't happen often, and I don't think I'm more suspicious afterwards. Just like - situations where I have a guy trying to make a deal with me - "Well, I only have $15...." "Well, okay, I'll see you another day..." "Wait..." blah blah blah "Okay, I do the $20 dance." "Okay - you just said you only had $15... I'm going to need you to pay me upfront." If he says no - I'm not likely to feel like I've lost business.
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    upfront before dances.

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    I typically would pay via money order or paypal...
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