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    if a thread is worth immediately closing out? Since we see the same threads over and over on body questions, money questions, rants, etc. Why does the ever unanswerable question of "How can I tell if a dancer likes me?" get immediately closed out.

    In my humble opinion, a moderator should moderate and not censor. While we should not tolerate pre-ejaculation, neither should we tolerate pre-closing. Once upon a time these questions would be entertaining for their simplicity.

    But, times change so maybe our time would be saved if the mod/goddess would just post all of the appropriate questions with the proper answers.

    We could then change this board into Stripperpedia. LOL.

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    Dude.

    Seriously...dude.

    It has been done to death. Even I am sick of typing about it. And THAT is saying something.

    It was the right Mod call.

    -gen

    P.S. Unanswerable? Hardly.
    Q."How can I tell if a dancer likes me?"
    A. She doesn't.
    See, now...was that so hard?
    "See, believe it or not (and I don't care whether you do), it's never been about the sex. I get sex at home, anytime, and we like it, and it's good for both of us. No, my stripclub experience has been about acceptance, and affirmation, and desirability...There have been some women who have a personality that just clicks with mine, and in the faux-sex atmosphere of the club, it's a mix that is completely seductive." - Jay Zeno

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    Sitri - it's a judgment call.

    If you have issues with a particular thread, by all means contact the mods of the section to make a case and we will review the decision.
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    Awwww c'mon Sitri! Time to get another job or hobby, you have too much time on your hands! Or, perhaps you are like me; want those threads around so you can be a dick to the innocent fool newbie posters. THAT, I can understand, lol, bwahahahah!!

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    I would have just nuked it but Jenny's decision was no doubt more measured because she offered a reason to the OP rather than the thread just disappearing. Also, I really do wish folks would take a moment to review the sticky at the top of the CC forum. There are links to all sorts of commonly asked questions. Jay and I (especially Jay) back in the day put a lot of effort into gathering and posting this information.

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    i don't see a problem with them closing it, although i think it's polite to give a kind response as to why first (as was mentoned) maybe with a search link. not every newbie has been on a message board before, so they don't all understand stickied warnings or search etiquette.

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    Where can I find out about stickied warnings? I never heard of the term before, and what does search etiquette mean? These are ignorant questions but if someone could direct me to posts on these topics it would be greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lio View Post
    Where can I find out about stickied warnings?
    At the top of most of the forums here.

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    and what does search etiquette mean?
    I think PP meant message board etiquette in general. Most online forums regardless of their topic matter have etiquette guidelines (often unwritten) that have been established by the long standing members there.

    People new to any online forum should tread carefully before making their presence felt. Introduce yourself too abrasively and you can make a lot of enemies very quickly whether it was your intention or not. In a lot of ways, internet communities are a lot like brick and mortar ones.

    Just the same, I've seen more than a few online communities implode because the regular members got a bit too parochial and began to treat the slightest indiscretions of community etiquette as acts of war. I sometimes wonder if in regards to some of the recent threads that SW is approaching that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish View Post
    Just the same, I've seen more than a few online communities implode because the regular members got a bit too parochial and began to treat the slightest indiscretions of community etiquette as acts of war. I sometimes wonder if in regards to some of the recent threads that SW is approaching that point.
    I think that is a real possibility.

    I have been an active member of many internet communities, including some of the earliest on the net, well before the web and popular access to the internet developed, and I too have seen it happen repeatedly.

    SW may not be too much "at risk" in this regard because there is a fairly steady and large stream of newbies arriving compared to the number of active long time regulars, I *think*. If this begins to change, it will be a bad sign for SW's future.

    The implosions you mention are most likely, in my opinion, for a community that consists mostly of long time regulars who know each other very well with newbies trickling in only slowly. The old timers tend to want the community to be a purely social "space" for them and their friends to have what amount to personal conversations rather than a forum for more abstract discussions of general issues, because they have already had/heard those discussions repeated endlessly and with every possible PoV expressed many times over. Understandable. However, the newbies are equally understandably uninterested in (or unable to understand for lack of the necessary background info) all the personal conversations and are more interested in discussing the general/abstract topics and hearing the various PoVs about them, because it is fresh material for them. I underlined "discussing" in the previous sentence to emphasize that it is not at all the same thing to read old threads or FAQs that the regulars have archived somewhere; that is not a discussion in which one can participate readily, and discussions and other forms of interaction are the whole attraction of internet communities. They are not particularly efficient or engaging for those who actually only want a bit of information.

    A different, but somewhat related, problem is that there is a moderation "instability" that tends to make moderatin gradually become heavier and less tolerant as time passes. Namely, the moderators gradually and often almost subconsciously discover that their (usually unpaid and thankless) work load is reduced by increasingly pre-emptive moderation. In other words, when they see a thread on a topic or course which has in the past led to big, messy disputes and bad feelings and such, it is a lot less work for them to stop it before it gets "out of control". While this makes life easier for the mods, it also makes the board less interesting for other participants, especially newbies. From their perspective, threads are getting killed for no obvious reason and just as they are starting to get interesting. Only relatively tame, banal and uncontroversial (i.e., boring and often low volume) threads are tolerated for long. Imo, SW is fairly far down this road.

    To be clear, I am not criticizing anyone here, mods or long time regulars or newbies, just noting that all these groups are following patterns that are common and as old as the net. And, as doc-c notes, they often eventually lead to communities dying, gradually or otherwise. But others then appear of course.

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    No need to get hostile Jay, I get it now, the thumbtack at the top of the list means stickied, but nowhere did I see the words stickied or warning. I did read the New Members Please Read a while ago and I will make sure to read them all again. I have no intention of making "deathless prose" I usually read much more than I write. I always enjoy reading your observations and have a great deal of respect for your comments. Thank-you doc-catfish for your kind advice, I'll try and tread carefully.

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    Just the same, I've seen more than a few online communities implode because the regular members got a bit too parochial and began to treat the slightest indiscretions of community etiquette as acts of war. I sometimes wonder if in regards to some of the recent threads that SW is approaching that point.
    I agree. We should be careful in this regard, and I say that as someone that thought Jenny's killing of the thread was justified given the sheer number of threads on the subject.

    While this makes life easier for the mods, it also makes the board less interesting for other participants, especially newbies. From their perspective, threads are getting killed for no obvious reason and just as they are starting to get interesting. Only relatively tame, banal and uncontroversial (i.e., boring and often low volume) threads are tolerated for long. Imo, SW is fairly far down this road.
    Agreed. If you take the example of the Houston Crackdown thread on Blue, you see there's very animated discussion and on average, while far fewer threads are created on Blue, they tend to be far more interesting and revealing than the volume we see on Pink. You couldn't have a Houston Crackdown thread on Pink like that without much of the readership getting their thongs in a twist. Granted, much of that has to do with those that contribute to Blue and their generally much thicker skins and greater detailed (dare we say, academic?) dissections of issues than we see on Pink, but the fact remains that we're far more forgiving of trolls like Derek and mark45y and the related n00b-like posts, if only because we're willing to beat them savagely on the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenWar View Post
    P.S. Unanswerable? Hardly.
    Q."How can I tell if a dancer likes me?"
    A. She doesn't.
    See, now...was that so hard?
    that was exactly what i was about to say in the other thread before i decided not to waste the short time it would take to type it, because certainly there would be a following post explaining that it's "different" this time. but yeah, what he said!

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    I heartily applaud the decision to close yet another "Does she really like me?!" thread.

    If you want to have an open, constructive, and meaningful dialogue between customers and dancers, you don't want to scare away the dancers with endlessly repeated annoying questions with obvious answers.
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