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    I've found that many times after I have tipped a dancer after private dances they try to hand me the difference in what I owe and what I'm trying to give to them as a tip. It's no big deal I just tell them to keep it, but it makes me wonder how many other customers are giving tips for their dancers. Unless it's a really bad experience, like yawning or burping in my face, I always pay 5 or 10 extra per song. I just kind of wanted to know if what I do is a common practice?

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    It's regionally specific. Around here, no, it's not common, but it's not really weird. I would still give you change unless you indicated that you didn't want it.
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    Many years ago, a place I visited charged $15 a dance. I asked the dancer if she had change and she said yes. She gave me 2 dances and I gave her $40. She gave me back $9. When I asked her why, she said "$30 plus tip." That just annoyed me. It's not so much the dollar, but that she tipped herself! Maybe she should have given back $5 and then 5 ones. Then I could have tipped her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lio View Post
    Unless it's a really bad experience, like yawning or burping in my face,
    LOl has this actually happened?

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    Its not customary around here, and dancers who ask for tips are usually shunned for doing so. For the most part, the ladies here are happy just to make the sale, particularly if the sale involved lots of dances. A little extra is always appreciated of course.

    I just usually add an extra $5-20 to the grand total owed. There's really no rhyme or reason on the exact number other than my mood at that moment.
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    I don't find it all that uncommon for dancers to offer change after a private dance. I'm sure for many, it's just them being polite. It's nice when a girl is appreciative of tips received. I don't doubt that it's more of an act for some than others but I admit, it positively reinforces the behavior from me.

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    whether or not the tip is expected or customary is a regional thing,I always welcome tips,but don't expect them and i think it is an indicator that whoever you got your dance from is trying to show you respect by attempting to ask if the extra money was intentionally given. If I were to keep one or two extra dollars like in the scenario mentioned above,it is probably a matter of me not having correct change at the moment and the night being busy enough that getting the one dollar seems like a pain,who needs an extra 3% so badly that they would go about getting it dishonestly,I mean if you are going to do that and risk losing the repeat patronage I would think that a larger sum would be more sensible???
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    It wasn't the amount that bothered me. It was that she decided to tip herself. She could have said, "Oh, I'm sorry, I don't have another dollar. Do you want it back later?" I would have probably let her keep it then.

    Here's another interesting tipping situation:

    Dancer: "Do you want a dance?"

    Me: "No, thank you."

    Dancer: "Can I get a tip for trying?"

    Now that's an idea! Get a tip for trying! I'm going to do that at work. I'm going to do this:

    Me: "Would you like to buy this lawn mower? It's on sale today for only $75!"

    Customer: "No, thank you."

    Me: "Can I get a tip for trying?"

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    I agree that is very tacky ^

    At my club I've probably get tipped like....hmmm....maybe every 25th customer or something like that. It's pretty rare. I sure like it though! Actually now that I think about it, when a guy hands me a larger bill and I give him change (usually without even asking) he is more likely to tip me. Something about having the extra cash right there in his hand maybe?
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    ^ i agree. a customer that ive known for about a year, before i was dancing and just waitressing, comes to my club now. he also frequents the well known extras clubs and is very obvious about it. we were talking one day (it was slow and i'd rather be talking to someone i 'know' than sitting alone) and he told me he doesnt think dancers deserve tips because "all they're doing is dancing." our dances are also $30, and he thinks thats too much. ok, so dont buy one! it really bothers me that people think we're overpaid. we certainly do, as jenny said, spend more than those 3 and a half minutes with the guy trying to make the sale, and for what we actually do during the dance, we certainly deserve it.

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    I always at least offer change. For two reasons...1)it tells me whether the guy is worth spending more time with...if he doesnt tip at all and demands his $5 change(or whatever) then he probably isnt going to spend any more on me...and 2) it would be humiliating for me to assume I was good enough to be tipped...and have the guy tell me he felt otherwise!

    Plus just the fact that I ask many times inspires guys to tip me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseWhite View Post
    It seems to me that, some regional variations aside, $20 per song is the general standard. Correct me if I'm wrong. And I also believe, again limited in my knowledge, that it has been the general standard for a very very long time. Is this correct? No matter the contact or nudity level? (I know there are exceptions, I'm just trying to suss out whether my perception of the average is off.)
    That is correct, although I point out when the price veers off of twenty in either direction, the regional inflation/deflation issue has little to with it. Phoenix for example has a considerably higher standard living than Des Moines does, but the standard price for dances in Des Moines is $25 whereas in Phoenix it is only $10. One issue of course if that most Phoenix clubs can sell alcohol whereas most Des Moines clubs are BYOB's and since they don't have a revenue stream from alcohol, they make the bulk of their money off a cut of dance sales. Dances in Des Moines also tend to be by most accounts gritter (although I haven't been to Phoenix yet to have a basis for comparison).

    Tabulate that into the fact that tipping single dollar bills on stage is still considered to be de rigeuer - and I know that's been the standard for a long time, yet something tells me the tip rail is seeing a lot more risque material than it used to for the same amount of money, no adjustment for inflation there either.
    This is true as well. With regard to both private dance sales and stage tipping, if you need to understand why the price has been stagnated for so long, you only need to look at the specific denominations of paper currency. There is no $25 or $30 bill. $2 bills are printed only in limited circulation.

    Now of course a customer can always pair a twenty with a five or ten, but for a lot of guys, preparation for a trip to a SC usually involves a trip to the ATM, which for the most part, only spit out $20's. Just the same, at the rail you can always use two $1 bills, but that means your precious stack of singles will disappear twice as fast, and some clubs aren't very good about keeping those things circulating.

    So hence, you have a dilemma between keeping your prices at a level where inflation makes the service increasing less profitable for dancers, or raising the prices and potentially losing customers who now can't afford them. I wish I had an answer to this other than say that mathematics ought to decide when it is the right time to move the price up.
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    I wait until they are paying to see how that scenario is going to play out. Either they have the exact amount or they'll ask if I have the change. And when they ask how much they owe I tell them the amount and then say, "And of course, you are more than welcome to add a tip to that if you'd like." It works about 75% of the time for at least a fiver or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseWhite View Post
    This is a tangent off the tipping topic (say that three times fast), but it's something that occurs to me once in a while and Jay & Jenny reminded me of it. It seems to me that, some regional variations aside, $20 per song is the general standard. Correct me if I'm wrong. And I also believe, again limited in my knowledge, that it has been the general standard for a very very long time. Is this correct? No matter the contact or nudity level? (I know there are exceptions, I'm just trying to suss out whether my perception of the average is off.)

    Tabulate that into the fact that tipping single dollar bills on stage is still considered to be de rigeuer - and I know that's been the standard for a long time, yet something tells me the tip rail is seeing a lot more risque material than it used to for the same amount of money, no adjustment for inflation there either.

    "Bargain of the century" definitely applies when the cost still reflects the economy of the PREVIOUS century - on one side only.

    (One more time, if I am ridiculously wrong on the numbers, please tell me, I won't take offense.)
    You aren't wrong, but I think that every market force at play is holding prices steady.

    Customers certainly don't want to pay more.

    I would imagine that owners don't give a crap what the girls make as long as they get bodies in the door, get their tipouts, and sell drinks. Hence 2-for-1s, which I had never seen when I started going to SCs.

    There are plenty of girls willing to enter the industry at current compensation levels. This isn't going to change as long as there aren't other jobs with similar pay and schedules.

    The other thing is that the Internet drives prices down. There are a lot more alternatives for adult entertainment than there were when the $20 dance became standard. Every customer can see what dances cost at their various club options, tending to limit price moves by dancers. The internet also gives easy access to all kinds of pornography and a discreet way to contact escorts.

    It sucks if you've been dancing a long time and are basicly stuck at the same pay, but prices don't go up universally. Be happy you're not a piece of consumer electronics. Then you'd be looking at $5 dances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lio View Post
    I've found that many times after I have tipped a dancer after private dances they try to hand me the difference in what I owe and what I'm trying to give to them as a tip. It's no big deal I just tell them to keep it, but it makes me wonder how many other customers are giving tips for their dancers. Unless it's a really bad experience, like yawning or burping in my face, I always pay 5 or 10 extra per song. I just kind of wanted to know if what I do is a common practice?
    Maybe I'm too eager to part with my money, but if I enjoy a private dance enough to get a second (third, fourth, ...), then I think the lady's earned a tip. I don't have any set formula or pattern, but it's usually somewhere between $10-$25. Usually I'm asked if I want change, but I can't remember a time I've handed cash over expecting to see part of it back. Bottom line, it's your money - tip if you think it's deserved. Never mind what the other people are doing, common is way overrated

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    I tip for time. I enjoy the conversation and understand the girls can't work for free.

    When it comes to dances, I take two, talk a while, take two ect.... No tip unless the convo gets lenghty.

    One experience that went well for the dancer & me, she does the above dance scenerio, and threw one in once in a while. She made money that night!

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    I have not problems tipping for a fun time.

    But I hate it when the dancer will mention "do you have a tip for the bouncer/VIP host?" I'm like you tip out the damn host at night anyways. Why should I do it too?

    If I've enjoyed myself then I'll voluntarily give a $20 to the dancer and tell her to use it to tip the VIP host.

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    I always tip $20 after 2 to 4 PDs IF enjoyed the dance and I am not referring to extras. Good dancers are hard to find and tipping is a good way to reward her.

    Sorry, I am sure there are many good dancers but my last SC trip just sucked.

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    In my area, yes, people do tip and I appreciate it. Not everybody. but I think you should, I mean, you would tip a waitress and I do more for you than she would! LOL
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    Many local clubs jumped to $30 several years ago. Unfortunately, my spending money didn't jump 50% at the same time, so the result of the increase was that I went to other clubs, or went less often. The ladies at the clubs that increased wound up getting less $ from me than they had before, and that's unfortunate.

    I usually tip, especially if I get multiple dances from a lady. I don't mind when a lady makes one suggestion of a tip, but it burns me UP when I offer a tip and am told it should be more. Nothing will make me put away the Wallyt faster than an ungrateful .... um .... businesswoman.

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    No shit, 1 out of 25 men give out tips after dances. Holiday's account does not suprise me at all because many custies seem to try and be almost sneaky about paying for their dances. This figure could be wrong, but I see very few hugs or kisses after the customer pays them. Anyway I always have, and always will enjoy giving out tips to the dancers, bartenders, and DJs. It just makes for a better over all experience at the club.

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    Around here, mostly there is no tipping other than the set amount for the dance. If I have a good time with the dancer, I usually tip, but that is probably the influence of SW on me. However, it is amazing what a tip does to make dancers remember you and seek you out the next time you go in. It is a good investment.

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    Use exact change. Sometimes the coctail waitress can help break bills. As far as tip it can vary. If there is good mileage during the dance, I tip well. Bad mileage, then no tip.
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