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    So anyone want to feel sorry for me for a few minutes?

    Anyone that knows me is probably bored out of their minds hearing me whine about work. So all you guys can skip this. I always say that you hit a certain downward mark - where you get used to making a little bit less, until that becomes normal, and then a little bit less than that, etc., etc. I don't want to say how much I expect to make, but let's say it's $x. Last night I was happy (well, happy-ish) to make $x-200. It has officially begun. I am too old and/or too cranky and/or too impatient and/or top unattractive for this business.

    I am now an aging stripper. Soon I will have to get a drivers license so I can get a car so I'll be able to live in it when I get evicted from my apartment.

    Dammit, I still have to finish with a joke; last night while heading out the door I said to my roommate "I'll probably be really late, and come home just as poor as I am now." She replied with "That's the wrong attitude. You're going to go to work, come home really late, and be really tired but with so much money that your underwear won't fit in your bag, and you'll have to carry them home in your hand." Feel free to print that out and stick it on your mirror or something.
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    That is a funny joke...

    but Jenny! I don't think it's you. You look better than many, many girls I've worked with. I'm not very good with compliments, and don't give them enough...but neither do I say what I don't mean. You're an attractive stripper! I mean it. You look the same age as I do.

    I know what you mean about expecting less money though...I don't know what I'm doing differently, or if I now look dramatically less hot than I did last year, but I don't make as much anymore either. I know this for a fact too...I look at the earnings I wrote down for myself last spring, and compare them to what I make now, and yeah...I used to count on $x, and now I'm happy with $x-200, almost spot on.

    So at least, please know, it's not you. I don't think. Or else, it's coincidentally you and me both. But I look around, and I listen to what some girls are saying, and it seems like maybe a slump recently? Which isn't really encouraging, since the end result (less money for the same bullshit) is still not cool.

    What I mean: Unless the last six months have been drastically unkind to you, I really, really don't think, based on empirical evidence, that you should take this stuff personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    "I'll probably be really late, and come home just as poor as I am now."
    And that is why you made crap money. You expected it, and as long as you expect crap money, that's exactly what you're going to get most of the time. I go to work every night knowing I'm going to make money, and it is a super rare thing if I don't. Like, a handful of times a year rare. I haven't worked much here in Phx lately but when I do, I still make what I consider decent money despite the fact it's really slow and we have WAY too many damn girls (just not ATL decent LOL), because I go in to work expecting it. Last time I worked, a week ago Monday, I went in at 5pm and walked out with $300 at 8:45 while everyone else LITERALLY struggled to make $50 - I just wanted some quick extra cash for the Miami trip, and that's exactly what I got.

    BULLSHIT you're too old. Just get that out of your head because it's bullshit.

    Anyway, point is, EXPECT to make money, and you'll make money. Your roommate is right about the attitude thing. Start telling yourself that you ARE going to make money, picture yourself walking out of the club with your pockets full and smile about it. Sounds really stupid, but it does work. Try it

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    I agree with Bridgette. Attitude is everything. You have to walk in there like you are the hottest bitch in the city, let alone the club. And you have to get the mindset that you will make money. Hell, I taped pictures of hundred dollar bills on my locker and I have these little inspirational notes to myself tacked inside my locker door. The girls think it's funny, but that shit works for me. The laws of attraction are a real thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andygirl View Post
    The laws of attraction are a real thing.
    I know what you've been watching

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    I know what you've been watching
    Yes, and I'm sitting here looking at the check I made out to myself in the amount of $10K. It will happen!
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    Default Re: And the downward spiral begins

    Attitude is key, however, it is summer, and I know where I am 25-40% of the customers are gone. Booooooo

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    ^^yeah, I agree about the attitude thing too...it has affected me, but there is no doubt in my mind there are fewer customers than there was twelve months ago (around here).

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    Haha, I like the undies thing.

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    Bridgette, you are, of course, wise and correct. However - and seriously, I know you might think this is naive - I am SURE - like SURE - that the customers are qualitatively different than, say, back in January. I remember back then actually enjoying my customers so much. It just made everything so much easier.

    I know, I know - who the hell said the job was meant to be easy?
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    ^^^ You're not imagining it! I went in to work like Rambo this season and the money isn't close to last year's for me and many other hustlers at my club.
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    Well, it's summer. Money's often worse in the summer, right? I've also noticed that my club is not getting all the business-traveler type of customer we were getting in the fall and winter. I don't know where they are, but all the customers right now are townies. I miss the out-of-town guys soooo much.

    And if you're letting it affect your attitude, your probably in a bit of a slump yourself. Beleive me, I know what that's like. They suck, but they pass.

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    Ladies, as long as you focus on the fact that there are fewer customers, you will make less money - again it's what you expect. It only takes one guy to make your night. You just have to EXPECT that he'll show up each night, or that the few who do show up will be into you. Quit focusing on the customers and just start expecting to make money!!! This is what I do. This works for me.

    I'm not making what I did last year at this time but it's not $x-200 either. And I'm nowhere near the $100/shift low.

    Monday night there were a whopping 8 guys in the club and way more girls. I didn't care, just knew I'd make money. I got a few dances from a couple of the guys, went for a walk around the room, and there was a guy sitting alone who saw me and sat up straight to signal I should come over. I went over and made $300 off him, and he wants to come back next time I work. The other few dances paid my fees, so I walked with that $300. I made this in about 3 hours on a slow-ass Monday afternoon and could've stayed to make more but I was happy and needed to get home and get ready for the trip. This isn't just luck - as long as you think that, you're screwing yourself out of money.

    Stop thinking about the negative!!! Just expect to make money. It works!


    Oh and Andygirl, I've got a $20k bill right next to me

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    It doesn't frickin' matter who the customers are, who they're going to be, or how the economy is. You're Stripperweb's Jenny. The hottest, badest, cagiest, most intellectual, most unattainable redheaded goddess bitch who ever walked the Canadian stage. It is the customers' destiny to shell out their money to worship in your proximity. They should pray to whatever deity they hold dear to thank him/her for this blessing in life to be in the glow of your aura. If these underdeveloped beings called men had to pay what you're really worth, they couldn't afford it, so they should be happy you underprice yourself out of a sense of charity for their benefit. So stop underestimating the intensity of a force of nature.

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    I agree 100% with everything Bridgette wrote. it's all in your head. You might as well go home if you are not walking in there thinking you are going to find Mr. Moneybags and have a huge night. It is tough, but it's not impossible. Nothing good comes from loser-talk.

    So when I read this, I was thinking, "good for her that she's finally realizing what it takes lots of girls much longer to learn."

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    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence View Post
    It doesn't frickin' matter who the customers are, who they're going to be, or how the economy is. You're Stripperweb's Jenny. The hottest, badest, cagiest, most intellectual, most unattainable redheaded goddess bitch who ever walked the Canadian stage. It is the customers' destiny to shell out their money to worship in your proximity. They should pray to whatever deity they hold dear to thank him/her for this blessing in life to be in the glow of your aura. If these underdeveloped beings called men had to pay what you're really worth, they couldn't afford it, so they should be happy you underprice yourself out of a sense of charity for their benefit. So stop underestimating the intensity of a force of nature.

    -Ev
    Wow.

    I'm printing THIS out and putting on my mirror.

    Ladies - thank you for the wise words and the commiseration. I shall try very hard to adjust my attitude accordingly. If I could, I would make you all capes to denote your superhero status.
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    Maybe you're just burnt out and need a break. I know I can only go for a few months straight before I want to strangle every dipshit that walks in the door! Maybe if you go do something else for a few months, you'll be thrilled to get back to dancing when you go back.

    I recently started back after an 8-month hiatus and I'm digging it again. I try not to set concrete goals or think about how much I'm not making; I just figure anything I make is more than I would've made sitting at home. And I've spent much of the last three years putting myself through considerable abuse 14-16 hours a day for $100 a day, so any time I work five hours and leave with $100 or more, I consider that a win. If you have any examples like that from your job history, use them! They'll make you so much happier about what you do make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence View Post
    It doesn't frickin' matter who the customers are, who they're going to be, or how the economy is. You're Stripperweb's Jenny. The hottest, badest, cagiest, most intellectual, most unattainable redheaded goddess bitch who ever walked the Canadian stage. It is the customers' destiny to shell out their money to worship in your proximity. They should pray to whatever deity they hold dear to thank him/her for this blessing in life to be in the glow of your aura. If these underdeveloped beings called men had to pay what you're really worth, they couldn't afford it, so they should be happy you underprice yourself out of a sense of charity for their benefit. So stop underestimating the intensity of a force of nature.

    -Ev
    Um, yeah, what she said.



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    Now this may be a blip. But tonight was pretty good (by god, you girls do a good pep talk!) I am now doing the computer chair lol with a mug (yes a mug) of wine.

    I think actually there are problems other than negative thinking. I think honestly, that I have a poor work ethic. Now this is not normally a problem because I'm not wildly friendly, so I generally have nothing to do but work. But I've now been at this club so damn long I've gotten to know some people. And it is so much easier and more appealing to chat with staff members with whom you are friendly than get rejected by 7 customers in row. But (for me) the 7 rejections are what gets me the "yes" on the 8th. So I need to soldier through. So - long story short it might be time for me to change clubs. Then I should be good for another 2 years.
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    ^^
    The power of SW woohoo

    Whenever I go in with a self-defeating, grumpy attitude I make no money.
    Last night for instance coz it was tuesday I had the attitude that I would not make any money - like not even $20!! So I didnt bother talking to any customers. Anyway this guy kept looking over at me and I finally said hi to him. SPoke for a little bit and took him for a dance. He asked me why it took so long for me to talk to him and I was honest, I told him I wasn't really feeling it and I didn't think I would make any money.
    He said he had been sitting there hoping that I would talk to him but he couldn't talk to me coz he has a stutter and he got really nervous.
    He had just won a lot of money at the casino and I ended up making good money off him.

    Then the rest of my night I kept up the better attitude.

    But Jenny I totally understand, when u r in that frame of mind where u convince yourself u wont make money u usually dont.

    Im glad the SW pep talk worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andygirl View Post
    Attitude is everything. You have to walk in there like you are the hottest bitch in the city, let alone the club.
    Heh, yup sure does work for me! Anyone who really knows me understands it's a work mindset and just giggle at the whole act, but most of the girls at the club don't so they loathe me and I have the nickname "stuck-up prude bitch". The fucked up thing is, I totally get off on it. When girls have that kind of attitude it makes me MORE competitive. So I get to bank AND piss them off... win/win situation in my eyes.
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    Okay, I'm all for having the right attitude. At the same time, I find that I have to be motivated in order to have that right attitude.

    Jenny, find something .. anything.. to aim and work towards.. find your motivation.

    For me right now it is


    Then it will be


    unless something else needs my focus before-hand.


    Whatever it is, find it.. find that one thing.. that something.. that will help motivate you... and once you re-start to make that money.. it will come to you.

    You have to create the momentum! Find your motivation and the attitude (the one that will attract QUALITY money to you easily and abundantly) will come as well as the confidence...

    This is the only way I know how to get out of a slump. It works for me whenever I am in a slump.

    eta: it's supposed to be the really slow time of year for the gold coast yet i'm actually doing pretty damn well ... so don't believe the "it's slow" bs. there is always money to be made!
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    See, ever since I retired, I'd keep thinking I should go back, I'm missing out, etc. I'd bug my husband about it.

    I'm glad I'm on SW, because I get to see how it really is out there. I know that it's super slow right now, and things will probably never pick up well again. After doing some numbers, that was finally enough to get the bug out. It's not worth it. I'll just let the girls that need this income to live, and just not a second job, and the girls that LIKE it to make that money I would have tried for.

    Oh well. I had my time. It's threads like this that tell me my stress is better placed somewhere else.

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    Yeah, changing clubs is always good for me. I can't let myself feel too stuck or stale, or I lose motivation. Power of positive thinking works wonders, but I can't think quite as positively when I feel too stale in a club.

    I would definitely make a move if I were you.

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    I friggin love this website. My good friend was feeling the same slump (crap, almost everyone is) and I told her what you all said, the next two night she came out on top! It IS about the attitude. If you let it get you down you start a nasty cycle....one that's hard ot get out of.

    I'm thinking I might split my summer up between two clusb, just so I can stay fresh longer this summer. There's nothing worse than sitting around wit hthe same girls night after night, listening to the same whining...it get's to you after a while.

    Keep your chin up Jenny, after all the posts I've read from you, you are the last girl I'd expect to see dragged down. You jsut march your hot ass self in there and make all that money!




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