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    A woman was found hung in the closet of her trailer park home, alongside her four daughters, also hung - I think they said they were 5, 3, 2, and 8 months old. The womans sister found them, the 8 month old was still alive and is in good condition. Here's the article, sorry if this was posted already.

    This is so horrible.

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    Bleh...that just makes me sick.

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    It is a messed up world!!! I can't even watch the news here n e more, there is to much crazy S*%t that goes on!!

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    You would have to be a severly mental disturbed individual to not only be able to kill one child, but then go on and kill the rest. Weather it be hanging, drowning, shooting....
    How?? I do not understand. I will never understand.

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    If it does happen to be that she did this to her children and herself as they suspect - - - if you're mental issues are so severe that you'd consider this....for the love of human kind GET SOME HELP....why? Is it like...when an animal in distress kills their young to protect them or something? I swear....humankind gets more and more like animals every day.

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    That is a lot of children very close together for a 23 year old woman. She had babies when she was 18, 20, 21, and 22-23.

    ETA: of course, I am not condoning her actions, I am just noting her situation as likely very difficult.

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    sounds like postpartum psychosis...


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    I'd hate to grow up being that 8-month old.. what kind of life is she going to have?? What a horrendous tragedy.

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    A lot of horrific crap goes on that the public doesn't hear about unless it ends in death and makes the news. There are children born and raised with no real chance of making it in the world on a functional level. Call it what you will, explain it how you want, but the fact is that there are seriously whacked people out there who victimize the helpless, even if the helpless are their own children. Be happy that you don't hear most of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyCurlieQ View Post
    I'd hate to grow up being that 8-month old.. what kind of life is she going to have?? What a horrendous tragedy.
    Provided that baby gets proper loving care from here on out, he/she will probably be fine. If not, though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PookaShell View Post
    A woman was found hung in the closet of her trailer park home, alongside her four daughters, also hung - I think they said they were 5, 3, 2, and 8 months old. The womans sister found them, the 8 month old was still alive and is in good condition. Here's the article, sorry if this was posted already.

    This is so horrible.

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    I have a good guess why things like this happen:
    1. When a woman says she can't handle raising her kids for any reason, all the sudden society looks at her like a horrible person.
    2. 47 million Americans have no medical care, including mental health care.
    3. Society pushes women who are unfit to continue to raise their children instead of putting the kids in some kind of foster care. In this case the father was not willing to raise the kids, either.
    4. I think this has always gone on, but today we have the technology to trace a child's death down to the minutia. In the past, a woman could smother her child and claim the child died of natural causes (not saying it's right, just saying it is likely to have happened all along).

    Each and every one of the cases involving a mother killing her children, she had asked for help with her depression. But people push it off like it is no big deal, or she loves her kids too much, or some other excuse until it is too late. Wouldn't it be better if there were a safe place that a parent could take their kids if that parent felt he/she may become a danger to his/her kids?

    I just think it is cruel to ostracize a parent who admits to his/herself that parenting is more than they can deal with, and turns their kids over to Child Protective Services for the safety of the children. That parent had to make a VERY hard decision, then to be marked with a scarlet letter on top of that is just cruel.

    The whole story made me sad that no one stepped in to help a mother who was slipping mentally. No one was close enough to her to see that she wasn't in her right mind.

    Maybe, in the future, when you hear a friend or family member say "I just can't deal with being a parent", we should sit up and take notice. Just like we are taught to look for signs of suicide and to take any suicidal talk serious, maybe we should be listening to parents who make comments about wishing they never had kids or wishing they could get away from being a parent.

    It might save the life of a child.


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    Why does someone who lives in a dilapidated mobile home have four kids, five years of age and under?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PookaShell View Post
    If it does happen to be that she did this to her children and herself as they suspect - - - if you're mental issues are so severe that you'd consider this....for the love of human kind GET SOME HELP....why? Is it like...when an animal in distress kills their young to protect them or something? I swear....humankind gets more and more like animals every day.
    If she was psychotic, she wasn't thinking like a rational person. There can be a driving force that pushes people over the edge, because to them it makes sense. All kinds of things run through their heads that would make 'normal' people scared.
    I am not saying that her state of mind made it ok, but honestly, somebody should have noticed this before she went off the deep end.

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    Andrea Yates, anyone?

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    ^ I thought the same thing.

    I also agree with Paris.


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    I wonder if she was ever diagnosed as suffering with mental illness or if she was left to wither and die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gingerlee View Post
    If she was psychotic, she wasn't thinking like a rational person. There can be a driving force that pushes people over the edge, because to them it makes sense. All kinds of things run through their heads that would make 'normal' people scared.
    I am not saying that her state of mind made it ok, but honestly, somebody should have noticed this before she went off the deep end.
    Didn't it say in the news article that her sister knew she was depressed? I'll have to see if I can find that...

    Edit: Hmm...didn't specify the sister, but it did say this:
    The sheriff said the hangings appeared to be murder-suicide because the trailer's doors were locked from the inside and a relative said the woman had been depressed.

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    That gives me a huge pain in my heart. Mentally ill or not, I have no sympathy for those who torture and kill young innocent children.. the very ones entrusted into their care and protection.

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    Okay - I agree with what Paris said too - sorry for thinking this is horrible? For everyone involved, including the mother. It's sad.

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    Before you judge what I have to say, read what I say first.

    For Latin Americans in the U.S. in general, the idea of being considered "crazy" and "unreliable" is a big stigma, aside from the fact that some are too scared to seek mental health services help (lack of proper citizenship documents or funds)... And there is a big stigma in being an unfit mother, like a woman has failed at the one thing God put her on the planet to do (again, I'm speaking as the daughter of Latin American immigrants.)

    I feel awful for this woman & knowing what her life was probably like, I hope God & her surviving child will forgive her.
    & This is yet another example of the mental health system in America not being able to help someone in time before others were hurt....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PookaShell View Post
    I swear....humankind gets more and more like animals every day.
    Um, last I checked... the human species was an animal.

    Oh.. and bravo Paris... you took the words out of my mouth.

    I am truely not shocked about this .. nor anything similiar.. due to how things "are" in this wide world.


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    Great post, Paris.

    Those poor children. How terrified they must have been. That poor woman. She must have felt so achingly alone. What a legacy for the little survivor to have to carry.

    It makes me so sad when these things happen, and makes me wonder if we have truly lost our ability to care about our neighbour. People noticed that something wasn't well with the woman---have we, as a society, become so insular in our thinking that we can't see the humanity in those among us who struggle? It looks that way. I think people are afraid to reach out to someone in need these days--not wanting to get involved, or get too much into someone's private business. There is definitely a shame and stigma against mothers struggling to raise their children. When things like this happen, I wonder if a kind word, and offer to help in some small way would have made a difference. I just keep thinking of the desolation this poor woman must have felt to drive her to do such a thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldCoastGirl View Post
    Um, last I checked... the human species was an animal.
    Right. I'm sorry. Holy crap.

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