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    Whether you like it or not, gone are the days of roses, hastily scrawled love poems, and sweet serenades crooned lovingly outside a fair maiden’s window. Today, women may pretend like they want to be courted by a chivalrous gentleman, but in reality the chivalrous man has about as much chance of netting the girl of his dreams as Helen Keller has of winning a darts competition. Women want a good-looking, arrogant asshole to treat them like crap. You may think that’s overly-misogynistic, but it’s a scientifically proven fact* that once a woman finds out you are attracted to her, her level of attraction towards you drops by at least 50%. Chivalry, in all its forms, focuses on the man professing his endless love for the woman whilst doing quasi-romantic deeds – deeds that, today, immediately drive women away. It’s an unfortunate trend, to be sure, but an unavoidable one: the chivalrous romantic can write all the love songs and give all the gifts he wants, but outside circumstances aside (in this case, “outside circumstances” means “money”), the chivalrous man will end up with nothing more than his dick in his hands by the end of the day, while the cocky asshole who lifts weights and/or plays guitar chokes the girl of your dreams to death with his penis.

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    Do you believe Chivalry is dead?
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    A remarkable resemblance to an article by an Anthony Burch published here:

    I'm not trying to be a pain - well, obviously, yes, I am, but for a reason. If the article's copyrighted, it's not to be reprinted here without permission. And it's not cool to plagiarize anyway. You even reprinted the footnoted word "fact*" but left out the humorous footnote that put it in perspective.

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    no i do not believe it is dead. it has taken a beat down as of late. but it is not dead.

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    I ran over it with my car then backed up and did it again. Then got out of my car and beat it to a bloody pulp. Jk No, its not dead. Its out there in a different form like in a vibrator. hehehe Its just harder to find. A man doesnt have to write me a poem to be chivalrous anymore. Chivalry isnt something I worry about anymore its cheating, lying and communication. After all of those are talked about then is when I expect a guy to show a softer side.








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    I don't believe it's dead. And, last Saturday at SFNYC, it was proven to be VERY much alive.

    My fiance does little things like covering me with a blankie when I'm shivering in my sleep, writes a note inside every store bought card, putting my daughter before himself and loving my mother.

    It's those things that beat out guys with money any day, in my eyes. Brad could have nothing to give me but his great big heart and that's all I'd ever need.

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    It's alive and well in my house too. K cuddles me when I have nightmares, makes me CD's, holds doors open for me, saves me the last piece of fruit, etc. He called in a zillion favors and spent some of his own money to get my movie made. When we'd been apart for a couple of months last summer, he flew me to New York so he could see me and so I could enjoy a vacation. He even does the dishes before leaving for a 16-hour workday because he knows I hate washing dishes.

    Guys who whine about women only wanting jerks, in my experience, are generally just looking for an external target for their own lack of sex appeal.

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    No, I don't, I still hope to discover it one day myself.

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    Chivalry is alive, but in hiding. Like Jesus.

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    ^And Elvis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    Guys who whine about women only wanting jerks, in my experience, are generally just looking for an external target for their own lack of sex appeal.
    DING DING DING!

    Really, though, the question depends on what kind you're talking about. You have to define your terms - people are going to interpret this differently.

    The kind of chivalry that was, once upon a time, based on rigid gender roles is probably dead if not mortally wounded, and good riddance to that. But the kind that is just plain romantic - I can't imagine it will ever die as long as human beings are capable of love . . . combined with hardcore sexual attraction.

    (Dylan baby, your white knight was a treat to meet. Give him a big goose for me!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoseWhite View Post
    (Dylan baby, your white knight was a treat to meet. Give him a big goose for me!)
    Thank you and I will.

    You're absolutely right about the romantic part. I've seen the biggest assholes in the world become complete gentlemen when they meet "that girl".

    Perhaps, in many cases, it really is a "he's just not that into you" thing. When he is, you'll know it, by the little things.

    Of course, there will always be assholes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Zeno View Post
    A remarkable resemblance to an article by an Anthony Burch published here:

    I'm not trying to be a pain - well, obviously, yes, I am, but for a reason. If the article's copyrighted, it's not to be reprinted here without permission. And it's not cool to plagiarize anyway. You even reprinted the footnoted word "fact*" but left out the humorous footnote that put it in perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Zeno View Post
    A remarkable resemblance to an article by an Anthony Burch published here: http://www.bspcn.com/2007/05/29/manl...-longer-manly/

    I'm not trying to be a pain - well, obviously, yes, I am, but for a reason. If the article's copyrighted, it's not to be reprinted here without permission. And it's not cool to plagiarize anyway. You even reprinted the footnoted word "fact*" but left out the humorous footnote that put it in perspective.
    My bad, i just copied and pasted. I assumed you guys would know i didnt write the article.

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    I want to find some chivalry.

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    ^^^ You'll have to get out of Texas then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PookaShell View Post
    I want to find some chivalry.
    At your age, you should be thinking about one thing only; and it ain't chivalry.

    Use 'em up and throw 'em out...you won't even have time to notice if they're chivalrous or not.

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    It's only dead in men who haven't been raised properly IMO.

    For the record I dont want an arrogant asshole who treats me like shit, he wont last 2 mins with me before I tear him a new arrogant asshole.

    My boyfriend often covers my entire bed with rose petals, he will always give me his jacket if i am cold and therefore be cold himself, he holds the door open for me and in general treats me like a princess.

    I have also had a huge box of flowers delivered to my club from a customer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    Guys who whine about women only wanting jerks, in my experience, are generally just looking for an external target for their own lack of sex appeal.
    Beautiful. That is exactly correct.

    Guys who are interesting, successful, funny, physically attractive and generous have an infinitely greater number of options than the unemployed, whining, hand-wringing, self-obsessed, neurotic twits who want to blame women for their own lack of success.

    And these guys are simply disasters in bed (God I hear about this endlessly, and am growing weary of it, honestly.) Since they have no clue about women or their bodies, have no experience, sexual technique, enthusiastic energy or connection to their partners' minds, to say nothing about zero confidence in themselves -- or the ability to project masculinity, power, control, or physical dominance, or hell, even sensitivity or submission if that's their game -- their entire experience with women collapses like a snow cone in the July sun.

    Run, run, run as fast as you can in the opposite direction and simply never look back.

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    Its the confidence jerks have in them that attracts women. Its down to our animalistic insincts to go for the confident and aggressive lion, yanno? Survival of the fittest kinda stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Other Owner View Post

    And these guys are simply disasters in bed

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    I still write MrsC little poems, and sing silly songs to her all the time. (15 years in July!) If "chivalry" now has just become "being in love and respecting your partner", then yes. Tragic, if you don't. That old horse about throwing your cloak over a puddle, though...I dunno. Can't she just walk around it? Do I have to fuck up my swanky cloak? Geesh.
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    If I didn't think Nicolina were so amazing, I'd be allll over you TOO. But... Nicolina gets my panties wet. She's so smart and elegant.

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    I think too many people confuse chivalry with romantic gestures, which are another beast all together. Chivalry is taking a woman's arm when you're walking over rough terrain to steady her. Singing outside her bedroom window is a romantic gesture.

    Chivalry is NOT dead, there are still guys out there that know how pull out a lady's chair, open a car door and take her arm. However, there are so many people who lack basic table manners, how can we be suprised when true gentlemen are few and far between?

    There are women who don't care to have doors opened for them, and feel that this behavior patronizes them. But that's not really what this article was about. The author seems to think that women want assholes. Here's what I find interesting about that: If these women with no class, no taste, and no self respect are the "girls of his dreams"...what's wrong with him?? If these girls were such great catches, they would NOT exhibit such destructive behavior as seeking out guys who treat them like dirt. If you're going to lay your coat in a mud puddle for a girl, maybe you should pick one that's worth it. If the author of this article is going to call out the girls that seek the wrong partners, maybe he should be looking at himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlelo View Post

    The author seems to think that women want assholes. Here's what I find interesting about that: If these women with no class, no taste, and no self respect are the "girls of his dreams"...what's wrong with him??

    If the author of this article is going to call out the girls that seek the wrong partners, maybe he should be looking at himself.
    Exactamundo! He likes 'em weak! But they want someone who can ape strength out in the world. He just can't ape it.

    I didn't feel the writer was being a misogynist. I think he hated the MEN who choking his woman to death with their penises. He'd rather do the choking, dammit!

    That's some crazy-funny writing!!
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    If I wanted a "jerk" I wouldn't be single, there will always be more jerks & underachievers filling up the planet, taking up space.

    Even jerks can play smart to get ass- my best pal & I worked with a hot guy who would cheat on his wife with other girls we worked with....He was always boorish with me but since he wanted to fuck my friend, he would act "effeminate" with her, to play up to her good side. This guy was an ex-Marine and "cowboy" type, willing to play cute to get poosay on the side.

    My point- you think the jerks are always drooling knuckledraggers when they meet a tail they want bang? Noooooo, they dress it up & pull out all their tricks....
    And when they have what they want, the Real Him comes out.

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