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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    Obviously it's a different scenario in jaizaine's club where it's standard practice to charge 3/$50.
    Yeah u r right, it's a standard deal at my club and we cannot sell any dance for under $20.

    But often the customers do see it as better than getting one song at a time because then if they got 3 it would be $60. So I always say "it's 20 per song but the 3 songs for $50 is a better deal" and most guys pay it.

    But asking for multiples is the key. You save more time selling to the same custie than u would finishing that dance and then hustling a new custie for that first dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    i only worked in dallas a few weeks in 2004 when i had not been dancing long at all, and customers tipped on dances, without me even mentioning in most instances.
    Well, I can tell you I've danced in Dallas for quite some time, and I've never seen this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevieStar7 View Post
    In all my years of dancing here in Dallas, I don't know that asking for "tips" after doing lap dances in common practice down here....Not that it's not a good idea (i'll def. be asking for tips from now on ) but from what I've seen girls down here it's just not common practice.
    so what's if it's not common to ask for tips? I'm not sure why that would prohibit girls from asking for one.

    Quote Originally Posted by StevieStar7 View Post
    Also, I can't see where it would piss other girls off cause for one, I'm really not in other dancers' money making business...no one ever complains about asking or getting paid more than the "$20" for a lap dance. For example, if you do 3 laps dances and the guy is suppose to pay you $60, but offers $100, I don't think a dancer is going to turn that $100 away.
    completely different scenario. You are compromising the value of a dance to sell it less than the going rate. When you make the dance less valuable, then it sets a bad precedent. Do you really not see the problem with offering discounts on the bread and butter of our business?

    Quote Originally Posted by StevieStar7 View Post
    And let's talk about the "extra girls" and what they charge for the services they do! You got girls getting x amount of dollars for hj, bj, sex, ect. and I have to compete with that....I don't think anyones going to complain if I were to charge 3 for $50!....
    just my opinion
    I would. Anything that a damcer does that minimizes the value of what I do upsets me, including extras.

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    ^^^ First off let's get something straight, I've never even done 3 dances for $50, I was simple implying that the standard practice at jaizanie's club to sell 3 for $50 sounded like a good idea, esp. when dealing with a cheap custy...that maybe he would spend a bit more than the $20 he normally just spends. That's ALL....nothing more, nothing less...It was a statement!

    Second, just because it's not common practice to ask for tips after dances down here, doesn't mean that it would prohibit any dancer from asking for one....I never said or implied that...I'm once again just stating what it is like here in My City! I think asking for tips after doing lap(s) dances is a GREAT thing...just isn't the norm here in Dallas.....geeezzz

    Third, you said that anything a dancer does that minimizes the value of what you do upsets you (including "extras and compromising the value of a dance to sell it less than the going rate)...well News Flash....there's a hell of a lot of Extras going on at our clubs!!! That problem will not be going away anytime soon, so my point was.....let's level the playing field! They want to make my job tougher by offering hj, bj or whatever for $20...then I'll get my money any way I can too....!!! Even if you complained about the "extras" to the management....they don't care, they're not going to stop it from happening....so now what?

    My point all along was Wow...Jaizaine....that's pretty neat that at your club you can charge $20 or you can charge 3 for $50....what a good idea for the custy that never wants to spend more than $20 anyways....Not trying to devalue to $20 lap dance....just a simple little observation....excuse me

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    well, i was at the clubhouse, and i don't know if that had anything to do with it.

    also, buffie06 works (worked?) in dallas, and i remember a thread where she posted that she flat out sells a price-list of dances 20/40/60 or even 40/60/80. i remember reading that and being like 'now that is an excellent idea'.

    it is a variation of the 'good' dance for 20 and the 'great' dance for 40, but with more options to make money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    I would. Anything that a damcer does that minimizes the value of what I do upsets me, including extras.
    One more thing, you made the above comment in response to me saying, with all the extras being done, I don't think anyone would complain if I charge 3 for $50... see here's the thing, you dance in Philly and I dance in Dallas, so I don't think we'll be working together any time soon. So, if I did decided to do 3 for $50, you don't work with me to complain....so I could really care less what you think!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevieStar7 View Post
    .so I could really care less what you think!
    Okay, that's fine, but I think you missed the point of what I was saying.

    On a micro level, I don't care what you do because what you do obviously doesn't affect me, but in the SW sisterhood way I do care because I assume you came into this thread to learn how to be a high earner.

    I am trying to talk about how to be a high earner by getting more for the work I'm already doing, and you are talking about how to sell more lap dances in a way that can potentially hurt your money.

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    ...and I think you're missing my point! I did not come to this thread to "learn" how to be come a high earner. My earnings are just fine. Not that it matters, but I came on this thread because like many threads I go on to, I find what is being discussed interesting. I'm sure the way you go about getting your $$$ works for you and believe me the way I go about getting mine, works for me...I didn't ask for your money making advice...I simple posted my thoughts about what jaizaine said...so for the SW sisterhood..."agree to disagree"

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    wait a minute.. if you didn't come into this thread to learn how to be a high earner, why are you here?

    and jaizaine is in AUSTRALIA. and has posted about 3/50 several times on this board. devaluing a dance price is not a good thing. but instead, you could say "$20 for a dance, but $40 for a really good/naughty/hot one." that helps increase your earnings without devaluing the price of the dance.

    if you cut deals, with a basic $20 dance, you will piss off the other dancers in DALLAS not in philly, clearly that was obvious. what emily was trying to help you understand was that there are better ways to get a guy for 3 songs instead of devaluing the dance price, like saying that as you go on it gets better, or that you've enjoyed the first but you cant wait to get naughty with him.

    arguing isnt getting anywhere.. let's stop that.. and return to the thread's namesake.

    Love it!

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    *wondering if you two are reading what I'm posting*....once again, No I did not come in here to learn how to be a high earner...I found what was being said in here interesting....I didn't know that I could only post a comment, if I was wanting to learn how to be a high earner? Are you two in here to learn how to be high earners yourself?
    I also don't know what jaizaine being in Australia has to do with anything?....And I wouldn't piss off OTHER dancers in Dallas for doing 3 for $50? What about the extra girls that screw with reg dancers money all the time??!! I could care less if it piss someone off! They don't give a shit about turning tricks in the club to make their money any way they can...

    And from the beginning, all i ever said was (once again) was "Wow...it is $20 a song, but that the cheap ass custy might find it a better deal to do 3 for $50, because normally it would be 3 for $60" I have never even charged 3 for $50....I was just making a comment....I can't just come in a post a thought?

    ...you know, I feel like a dog chasing it's tail, this is just pointless!

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    i think you have missed the point several times. but that's long gone now. enough of this BS. good luck to you in dallas.

    Love it!

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    no, i don't think that i have...

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    In my opinion, as soon as one girl starts charging 50 for 3 dances, other desperate girls will do as well, and it will start a vicious cycle like the one with extras. Someone started doing extras and other girls felt they "had to" since they felt they couldn't make the same money any more by doing just dances. Which in turn did devalue our job and hurt our money. So now to be more inventive someone comes with the idea of doing 3 for 50, what's next, 2 for 20? With the inflation, hurting economy and the increasing cost of living, we are not making as much as we used to anyways, and even the 20 dollars we get for a dance today doesn't equal 20 dollars we got a few years ago. The cheaper we sell our dances, even if it temporarily helps one particular dancer to increase her earnings, the lower the cost of extras will be eventually, and so a clean dancer will have an even harder time to sell a regualr 20 dollar dance. I wote against 3 for 50. If I found out someone was doing it in my club, I'd be pissed. I work in Dallas. But I'd also be pissed someone was doing it ANYWHERE, even if it didn't hurt my earnings personally at the moment. I think we girls need to keep our standards high and if we change anything, go higher, not lower.

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    i posted a whole thread about the horrors of 3/50 (actually 3/40).

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65354

    and the dancer in question did manage to periodically piss off the other girls over the pricing, even though they were all friends otc.

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    ^^^ Thank You for posting that thread. I read it and enjoyed what was said. It looks like there are some folks out there that get it!

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    Sometimes I will do the 3/50 deal if a guy has already gotten 2 dances and says no to third one, sometimes I will ask and sometimes he will change his mind. I just have to read the guy. I don't do this with regulars tho or custys that seem like potential regulars. But I think it is common practice in my club. We also have a 2 for one half hour special everyday. So its flexible, we just can't charge less than 10$.

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    As a personal policy, I absolutely never cut deals with dance prices. It undercuts the other girls and I wouldn't appreciate it if other dancers were doing it in my club, so therefore I always charge full price.

    And, I tell ya, when a guy tries to negotiate, I simply tell him that my dances are worth every penny and I don't make deals, he always drops it and pays full price. Well, not "always" I think I've lost maybe 2 or 3 dances over the years. But I figure that's 2 or 3 $10 dances (from the regular $20) - versus the amounts I've made up by always charging full price AND I know I've done my part to keep customers from thinking they can get dances for less. Prices should be going up in my opinion! Inflation!
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    Oh ya - since this thread seems a little sensitive ... I'd like to add that I understand cases such as bellasera's where the club runs specials already. I'd probably do the same as her in that set up.
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    I don't usually cut deals but on a particularly slow night I have once or twice. The only problem is that these cheap assholes still want the most bang for their buck even if they have bargained you down.

    Sometimes these assholes even try to bargain even lower after the dance.

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    I always say, get MORE not less! I don't cut deals - well, I started using the "give you this (floor)dance for free if you take me to VIP right now" deal, and that works, but that's an UPsell, not a downsell. 3/$50 vs $20/song is a downsell - no thanks. I will never but never give away dances or time for less than the standard price, and I try to get MORE if possible.

    All strippers need to learn to negotiate UP, not down. Who the hell started this downselling thing, anyway??? Offering deals like 3/$50 when the regular price is $20, isn't going up, it's actually going down, because now you're doing more work for less money. The idea is to get more money for less work!

    One little thing I do in the Phx club where VIP is $25/song with a club-set 3song minimum: I do a 4song minimum. It's not much of a jump, but it takes zero extra time to sell it, so it's an improvement in my book. This also makes it easier for me to sell him additional blocks of 4 after the first set, instead of one at a time If there were more room for negotiation in this club, I'd surely do it.

    In other clubs where VIP is sold by the hour, I always name a higher price than the standard, and negotiate from there. I never agree to less than the standard. I often get a higher price.

    There's always a way to make more money, you just have to figure out how to work the club's system to your advantage instead of someone else's. Cutting discount deals, no matter what some girls think, is never to the girls' advantage.

    Quote Originally Posted by luvbuniz View Post
    I don't usually cut deals but on a particularly slow night I have once or twice. The only problem is that these cheap assholes still want the most bang for their buck even if they have bargained you down.



    Sometimes these assholes even try to bargain even lower after the dance.
    That's because you've opened the door to bargaining - once you do that, they'll try to see how low they can get you to go. It's the nature of bargainhunters. Keep your standards high and you'll avoid that. You may lose a dance or two here and there, but 1) you don't have to deal with the asshole insulting you for cheap and 2) knowing your worth makes you more money in the end because someone else WILL pay full price.

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    I just want to clarify and I think it's been said back a few pages in the thread but the 3/50 is a standard price in my club, I am not undercutting anyone.
    It's the clubs price not mine.

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    I can vouch that it is standard in melbourne to do 3 for $50

    Only @ rhino is it $20 for topless, $30 for niude (both one song) or $50 for 2 songs (but you work harder to sell then any other club on king street)

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    Thanks Alee

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    Emily,

    I know this must sound sad, but how do you convince someone that you are worth $1k or better? What is the appropriate way to ask a custie for a big tip? When I try my hand at assertiveness w/ the custies I feel like most of them can sense that I don't really mean it or that I'm not a pro and want to give me a hard(er) way to go. :-(
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    The problem with downselling, or cutting deals is essentially your implying to the customer your worth the lesser price. Which is saying your NOT worth the higher price. If you go around down selling, how the hell would you ever be able to upsell that customer, when you have already given him the impression you are worth a cheaper price? It's only setting yourself up for failure.
    And just because it's a cheap customer who would not have bough the dance at the whole amount..I think that is bullshit.
    It's onyl $10 more. If he will buy 3 for $50, then he will buy 3 for $60. It's 10 bucks. That 10 wont break him, and if you are a powerful enough seller, you can get him to spend the extra $10. And if you already got him to buy 2 dances, going for the third is the easy part, IMO. If he already bought 1 repeat, then tsellign a third is pretty simple.


    And how do you convince someone your worth 1grand or more?
    Believe it yourself. You'll never sell it if you don't truly believe your worth each and every penny. Which is pretty much why you shouldn't undersell your dances. It's implying your worth less. If you believe your time is worth a thousand dollars, and you believe your worth a thousand dollars, you can convince others of the same thing.

    Ok...so now I have a question

    In other clubs where VIP is sold by the hour, I always name a higher price than the standard, and negotiate from there. I never agree to less than the standard. I often get a higher price.
    B...At every club I've worked at out here, when you go into VIP, the host tells the customer the prices. " I'm sure the lady told you already, but for the hour, it's $400 for her, $100 drink tab"
    How do you get around that with naming your higher price? Tell the customer that it's normally this much, but you cost this much more because your dances are better? I think that might imply he's getting someone extra?

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