I don't like that they've been shoved down our throats and we're forced to pay their salary.





I don't like that they've been shoved down our throats and we're forced to pay their salary.
“What a caterpillar calls the end of the world we call a butterfly.” - ECKHART TOLLE
We have 3 housemoms, but I've only worked with one directly. She is pretty cool overall and takes her job very seriously - handing drama, takes care of little issues and questions, helps with hair/make-up/clothing, etc. The two others work on different nights than I do - don't really know. I can see how it would be easy to abuse their position by asking for more money compared to services provided. I agree; everyone has their hands out.
"By 'them' do you mean people like me?"





wow, you girls tip your managers? ive worked with managers who, even when the've helped me out and gotten me a room or something, wouldnt take a tip from me. the only time i can think of that its been required to tip a manager was at one club when he doubled as security once a week. that's interesting..
as for the housemoms, luckily for me ive only worked at one club that had one. it was my first club, though, so when i left and didnt have one it took a little getting used to. but i always got the feeling that she didnt like me, and i knew what her reasons were, so because of THAT i didnt tip her more than was required unless i had a really good night and she knew and would bitch if i didnt, or i used her stuff (at most i used a baby wipe).



add me to the list of people that think a house mom is completely unnecessary. I usually do tip the housemoms above the minimum, but really...I never use them for anything. Only time I use any of their products or services is when a co-worker makes fun of me and I feel the need to throw a piece of candy or some other small food item at them.![]()
Well when there is a minimum house mom tip out I do use her stuff a bit. Spritz of hairsrpay, baby wipe. Hey..if I'm being forced to pay her anyway...why use up my own stuff too?



Ha! Our bitch housemom quit last night. I don't know the details yet, but I'm so excited!
Exactly - like why do we have all these hangers on? I never forget baby wipes or tampons, and if I forget my lipgloss I... do without. I would far, far, far rather do that than pay someone else $20 every night I didn't forget.
Cleaning the changeroom is part of their overhead - it is part of the normal cost of running any establishment (cleaning the rest rooms and stuff). There is no particular reason I should be subsidizing that for them.
I hate "make work" projects in strip clubs. At one club I worked at they had a guy standing by the stage to "help us" on and off (like, would take our hand) and we were expected to pay him for this. That is what he did. Stood by the stage and held our hands, and we're expected to pony up. Like, why is that person even there? I swear sometimes these people are just thinking up ways to take our money as pure recreation.
I will actually go out and say given the choice I will avoid tipping out. That's right. I will not pay anyone 1 cent more than I have to unless they have directly and specifically provided me with a service. A service I actually want. If a manager or waitress finds me a customer, I pay them about 10% (I round up to the nearest $10) because I'm grateful and I like money, but I don't like to pay people I work with just cause they exist. Exception being the DJ - I'll pay the DJ what I think is a reasonable minimum even if tipping is not the norm. But - I will lie, cheat and steal to avoid paying a percentage or more than what I think is reasonable.
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Woah! That's crazy. I'm really, really curious as to why you quit your good paying job that requires you to do fuck all. Please update!
When I worked there word was that she and manager dude were gonna end up owning the place when old girl decides to sell. Is that still the rumor?



Oh, you're thinking of the manager's wife. She only works every other Saturday now. She does nails instead. As to that rumor, her son will be the one taking over when she's done I believe but I don't think they will sell.
You know, I've worked with Housemoms and D.J.s who have expected 10% of your income!!! And if they didn't get it, Housemon would throw a fit, hound your ass every night till you were "paid up", bitch and say"you know you forgot to tip me last night" and keep reminding your ass till you tipped them, not only for that night but the night you didn't tip out!( that's another reason I never let her hold my money) D.J.s will fuck with your music, stages, and also bitch till your "paid up" with them! I mean if I have bad night, I've had a bad night...I don't come in the next night to give you extra!!! that's why I always try to keep what I make on the down low...there's a lot of hands trying to dip in the pot!



Our housemom last night ended up being the owner, who I might add is an older greek woman who you don't want mad at you to say the least. But the board was kept and there wasn't drama upstairs.


ok, now I am a housemom(former dancer too) when I started the definition of my duties was to keep the DR tidy, keep the order board up to date, keep track of why a dancer is not able to go up at her slot (VIP's, lunch stuff like that),be the eyes and ears in the back of the club and DR/BR keeping an especialy aware of drunk?drugged dancers,check tops and more imporantly bottoms and shoes, be available to fix costumes, and assist the dancers in anyway they need be it someone to help with back of hair to someone to talk to about personal problems in or out of the club. As a dancer I only had a house mom once, all she did was eat onion bagals(sp?) with pastrami on them, she could not even be bothered to help buckle a shoe when I had a neckache, so when I decided to housemom I vowed to be th best HM i could, I chose to bring healthy snacks for the girls to eat since what is available at the club is usually not what weight concious dancers want in their bodies and according to law they cannot bring anything in fro themselves. I agree that useless HM's should get as little as possible, ut if you have a good HM she deserves a tip, she may not diretly contribute to making money, however she is the one who is supposed to tell you that the nasty guy you just did a VIP with left a trail of something on your back or that one of the guys out there is being touchy with the girls
Put a little Magick in your night.





This is exactly how I feel about it too. All these bullshit jobs really only amount to more ways to get money out of us. Why does everyone feel they "deserve" our money for doing something we can do ourselves? Why couldn't the clubs just install a vending machine for things like tampons, mints, spray, etc, and lose the stupid housemom? They don't need a housemom to watch us either - that's what cameras are for. Only time I've seen a truly useful housemom was when she actually acted as dancer manager and/or when she doubled as makeup/hair person. Most of them sit around doing fuckall in the dressing room, and often stir up unnecessary shit.
Bouncers and managers - the club can pay their salary and we can tip them for helping us specifically. I get so sick of having to throw out 10% or more of my money to useless fucking dopes who are doing nothing but leeching off us.
I don't mean this in a bad way against you or any particular house mom - I'm sure that many of you take pride in your work and try to be useful. But... there is no reason I should be subsidizing the club keeping track of passed out dancers. If they choose to hire non-functional alcoholics, that is not my financial responsibility but their's. I can "check" my own outfit, and if I can't put on my shoes, I'm actually pretty sure I can't work. All the other grooming stuff - like really I can do it myself. In clubs where there are no housemom's it's not like we wander around with tampon strings hanging out wearing one boot. Nor do we run around bleeding all over the place because we forgot tampons, nor do we pass out from low blood sugar because as it turns out we are adults perfectly capable of looking after ourselves. It's not you; it's the job that is unnecessary. As for all the work you think you do for the club - do you think they would still find you indispensable if they had to pick up your full salary as opposed to offloading it onto us? Like can you imagine a conversation that went "Look up until now we've relied on the girls to pay you about $200 a night. It turns out that they really don't want to do that, and think they can bring their own tampons and talk to their friends about their problems, and work out themselves which customers are grabby. Fuck them. Ungrateful bitches - you don't need to cater to them anymore. But your service to the club, in tracking the girls, cleaning the room and making sure the rotation is uninterrupted is SO valuable that we are going to start paying you $160 a night for these services." I think we all know that if dancers weren't bullied into paying for these "services" that the services would cease pretty quickly from lack of demand.
By the way - honestly I know we play up the cattiness and drama, but where I work now I don't need to pay anyone to tell me if the back of my hair looks good. I'll ask any random girl in the changeroom "Does this look okay, or do I have a dent?" (I wear a pony tail sometimes) and they'll glance over and say "it's fine" or "You need to iron it a little". Like, it's not really a paid for service.
I have taught that the sky in all its zones is mortal and its substance was formed by a process of birth


the club i work at does pay my salary, there is no required tip out to me only the bartender and DJ. You would be amazed at the taveling dancers that come to smaller clubs, and the catiness that hapens between the house dancers and traveling ones in a smaller clubs, most of the dancer isuuses we haveare not from our house dancers whom all now the rules, but from the traveling ones who do not know the rules and some of whom do not care. I feel tha the need for a HM depends on the club, when I was dancing there were a coupl of clubs that would have been nice to have had a HM as i did not know the area or rules for some of the smaller clubs/towns that had different laws. My club in particular the dancers do not get any of their money for VIPs ntil the end of the night, just little tickets that i keep track of, the club acros the treet does not have that system. Also how does a manager at the begining of the night know that a dancer is part fish if she has never worked there before and what dancer is going to get rufied by a customer then have noone to get some water through her and call a cab?
Put a little Magick in your night.
Not to knock you as I'm sure the girls you work with appreciate your efforts...esp if they are not required to tip you...but on this specific point...a few months ago I was drugged at work. We had a housemom...she spoke no english and did not understand me when I was trying to tell her I wasnt ok. She FINALLY understood names when I asked for the bouncer and manager...who, along with the DJ (who used to be an EMT and put the system on auto play for a few minutes) were the ones who came back, took care of me, kept me awake and talking and called my husband to come get me. They also were the ones who helped me get dressed while the housemom watched and carried me out to the car when my husband got there.
Shortly thereafter the club instituted a rule that there was NO mandatory housemom tip. Wonder why....
I think that's great. If the girls aren't forced to use your services, and aren't bullied into tipping you and the club wants you around enough to pay, then I think that is great. And I don't think anyone here disagrees with tipping people when they actually do you a service (again, a service that you actually want). It shows that the club obviously DOES think you are providing them with a service. I think you'd probably agree though, in most situations, it is not the case?
And no, I wouldn't be surprised. I've been both a house and a traveling dancer in clubs with and without housemoms. I would disagree about the "direction" though - I find housegirls can be a little territorial and resent the fresh meat.
ETA - by "not bullied" I mean I can walk in, say Hi, use none of your services, walk out, change at the end of the night, not pay you a penny, say good bye and have you cheerfully say it back and nobody really thinks much of it. I mean, I'm not told "Oh well, she keeps track of drunk girls and needs the tips, so you really ought to even if you don't technically have to." You know? I also don't want to be put in a position where I have to or am pressured to use your services when I don't actually want or need them.
I have taught that the sky in all its zones is mortal and its substance was formed by a process of birth
I have taught that the sky in all its zones is mortal and its substance was formed by a process of birth





Jenny is right. The housemom job is simply unnecessary, and if clubs really feel they need someone stationed back there to watch us, why the hell can't they pay for it??? WHY are we required to pay for that shit? Or as I mentioned before, clubs can install cameras in the DR to monitor us. I fully agree that if clubs want to hire drunk/drugged out girls, THEY should be responsible for the expense of keeping us inline. Why the hell should I have to pay for the babysitter when I go to work sober and do my job without causing trouble??
We're not babies who need someone to dress us and all that. Come on. Furthermore, if some girl DOES need that much supervision, she shouldn't be working in the stripclub in the first place. Fire her sorry ass instead of make the rest of us pony up for her fucking babysitter.
She should also be muttering. Something about how much easier her life would be if she could just pay someone to dress her before work.
Upon re-reading I just quite enjoyed the possibility of a tampon string wearing a little tiny boot while the dancer went barefoot. And then she could mutter "I'm SO confused!"
I have taught that the sky in all its zones is mortal and its substance was formed by a process of birth
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