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    Default Whinging drug addict STFU

    I might get flamed for this but anyway here it goes.

    I am watching Dr Phil, it's an update on those twin sisters who are addicted to heroin and crack. They are detoxicing this bitch and all she is doing is complaining about feeling like shit and yelling at everyone.

    Man this is pissing me off. She is lucky that anyone actually wants to help her. She got herself into this shit. I cant believe she is complaining about feeling sick, what about how shit she felt when she was on heroin?

    This girl is just an effin write-off.

    I mean it doesnt even seem like she wants help.

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    Default Re: Whinging drug addict STFU

    Addicts need something to fixate on. When it isn't drugs, it's usually attention, usually from bad behavior.

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    Default Re: Whinging drug addict STFU

    have you ever had withdrawals from a drug?

    its kind of hard not to complain that you feel like shit.
    especially a drug like heroine, it probably feels like you're going to die.

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    She's in the worst pain she has ever felt in her entire life. She didn't feel like shit on heroin. She did the heroin to avoid being in the worst pain she's ever been in.

    (And she's a drama queen drug addict.)

    But it's not easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfatrabbitx View Post
    have you ever had withdrawals from a drug?

    its kind of hard not to complain that you feel like shit.
    especially a drug like heroine, it probably feels like you're going to die.
    I have. Even though I knew I had gotten myself into it I sure as HELL complained. I felt so sick and like I was going to keel over.

    And then just.... SUDDENLY.. hey wanna go out to eat? Man, it's a bright sunny day!

    So fricken weird.

    But so painful.


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    i never did heroin, but i know that i wasnt an easy person to be around when i was coming down off coke. it would last a long time because i was so f'ed up, and like someone else said, i kept doing it not even to get high, just to keep from feeling that way. its not a fun way to be. the girl probably cant really help it (i know its her fault for starting and all.. but at this point she really might be doing the best she can. i know i wouldnt have wanted to be on tv.)

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    I have never had withdrawals from a drug because I have never done drugs.

    Well Dr Phil has gone to the house to intervene and she seems to be changing her tune a bit. I do like his no nonsense approach.

    WOW he just showed her a digital imaging of how she will look at 47 if she keeps on it and he said "That's one skanky looking coke whore". Weird coz she is on heroin not coke.

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    Until you've been there, don't be so quick to judge.

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    EDT: Dumb, dumb thing to say.
    Last edited by jaizaine; 06-11-2007 at 09:35 PM.

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    Symptoms of withdrawal include:

    Dilated pupils
    Diarrhea
    Runny nose
    Goose bumps
    Abdominal pain.
    Sweating
    Agitation
    Nausea
    Vomiting


    The site I got this from makes this seem mild, I've worked with drug addicts trying to get clean. What they term here as cramps can range from mild to nothing short of worse than having a baby sort of pain.

    The diarreah is well, not to be to graphic but I used term explosive.
    So you sort of get the point..

    First off, someone who is actually, really, trying to get clean. Why the heck would they want to be on TV? Personally if it was me, I would want to be locked away in a dark room and not let anyone see me.
    There are so many issues that go with addiction, it's hard to judge unless you are there.

    But, being on television and laying yourself bare before the nation is really not a good way to do it.

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    Heroine isn't the only drug you can be addicted to.

    And if I'm making excuses,so be it. I'm just one of those "stupid" people who got herself addicted to drugs at one point

    Gosh, you sure are an offensive human being. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about or what it's like for people, why they get addicted, or anything. Yet you act like a goddamn expert on how they should act.

    Shame on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    ^^
    See that attitude annoys me too. I get it that I haven't been there but that's coz I have never been stupid enough to inject a drug into my veins.

    Too many people make excuses for these people.
    Until you've hit rock bottom you have no fucking right to judge.

    Have you ever lived a life with your family beating the living fuck out of you? Have you been raped by your father? Have you ever ended up on the streets because you have no where else to go?

    No?

    Then you have no right to judge.

    Live it then state your opinion.

    Now take your holier then thou attitude elsewhere.

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    Thank you Cally. Grr.

    People get addicted for reasons you'll never understand until you've been there. And they don't need you making them feel like shit for making a bad choice when they already feel bad enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    ^^
    See that attitude annoys me too. I get it that I haven't been there but that's coz I have never been stupid enough to inject a drug into my veins.

    Too many people make excuses for these people.
    Wow. What an absolutely horrible thing to say. Some degree of sympathy, empathy and "there but for the grace of god" etc is NOT the same as making excuses. Coming off heroin is HARD when you are an addict. Really hard. Likely harder than anything you've ever done. I'm sure you're perfect, but sometimes we mere mortals screw up - we even screw up badly - and need help and sympathy getting back up on our feet. Sometimes (and I know this is not something you've ever experienced) we don't succeed the first time, and we actually have the nerve to want MORE help and MORE sympathy when trying again.

    I'm glad that I and those who are close to me take a different attitude with out loved ones than you are advocating for here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorsicaFire View Post
    Until you've been there, don't be so quick to judge.
    I agree there. I believe when people are addicted to something its like they are someone else. They can't make rational decisions - they are on drugs equal not thinking clearly. Also, if many addicts could just stop using I'm sure they would but they are so deep in the drug the drug has become their mind.

    In fact I feel bad for these people that they can't just snap out of it but instead require a long form of treatment. Of course getting away from drugs isn't easy. Dealing with the pain one has covered with the drugs for so long coupled with the pain of detoxing seems like hell to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorsicaFire View Post
    Thank you Cally. Grr.

    People get addicted for reasons you'll never understand until you've been there. And they don't need you making them feel like shit for making a bad choice when they already feel bad enough.

    Exactly... hell I knew better when I started... I was well aware of the damage it could cause but it didn't stop me.

    I had no where to go, no one to help me... I was so lost I just wanted to numb the pain and I found my way.

    I realized the harm it was causing me, and I stopped... I didn't want sympathy when I quit because I was well aware I had done it to myself, as are most addicts when they start and quit... but when you are coming off it you just can't stop yourself from lashing out and hating the world... because it was the world that put you there to begin with.

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    Quitting a drug addiction is fucking hard work. I quit a year and a half ago, and I STILL struggle with staying away from the drug I was addicted to. It's a DAILY struggle.

    And I was a bit different. I became addicted because my doctors would have rather throw more prescription Vicodin at me rather than trying to fix or even just treat my problem. They fed my addiction they caused and I carried it on my own when my life started to go down the toilet when I got into the accident that fucked my back for life and I sank into depression.

    I...can't even put into words how angry I am right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CorsicaFire View Post
    Quitting a drug addiction is fucking hard work. I quit a year and a half ago, and I STILL struggle with staying away from the drug I was addicted to. It's a DAILY struggle.
    *hugs CF* we're very proud of you for quiting too. You've come a long way sweetie.

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    Now now.. don't be mean to the ignorent. Some people can't help being hatefull when they are clueless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow2 View Post
    Now now.. don't be mean to the ignorent. Some people can't help being hatefull when they are clueless.

    Yea your right... I guess we just can't all be born with a silver spoon in our mouthes...

    I wish I knew it all like jaizaine

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    What bothers me is this isn't the only topic she acts like she is holier than thou on. But, I don't want to pick on her, because when she isn't offending me she has a lot of helpful things to say.

    J, don't think I'm hating on you, you've just stirred a lot of feeling up in me and I feel you need to be more informed.

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    I'm not saying I'm perfect, I never said that. I just think there is a lot of excusing of their behaviour. I was well aware that this post would get me flamed but I felt like writing it anyway coz the show frustrated me.

    What pissed me off is that when Dr Phil put her in that house to help her with her own doctor all she could do was complain about how hard it was.
    The physical symptoms do seem terrible but she was living on the street giving blowjobs to pay for drugs, she couldnt even eat food without throwing up and she said she coughed up all this mucus shit all the time.

    What I don't get is what is wrong with me being proud of the fact that I have never touched drugs? That is a positive thing.

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    Its one thing to be proud... another to out right attack someone when you have no fucking clue what its like to be there.

    miabella had it right... your whitebread middle class and 'slumming it' for a few years.

    You need to lose the holier then thou attitude and realize not everyone can have the perfect life you lead.

    /end rant.

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    I'm proud of the fact that I have touched drugs and never became addicted. I know what it feels like to be on E ... to have a trip... to have had speed.. to have had some coke... to have smoked some weed... done it all and now i am here sober as can be... and can say NO to drugs because I honestly have "been there, done that" and don't see the point of doing it again.

    I had the experiences. I enjoyed all of them (didn't have bad experiences). I can say NO and know that I havn't missed out on anything etc.



    honestly, i'm not going to judge this dr phil girl (yes i watched the show) as i am not her. I have never been addicted to drugs and thus I really can't fathom what is happening with her etc. in the end it is her life and if she wants to do what she is doing with it... free will.


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    It isn't that, it's the way you feel like you think you have the right to dictate how these people should act without ever going through it yourself. I'm sorry if we aren't as good as you are because we were "stupid enough" to get addicted to drugs.

    Hell yeah they're complaining, it's hell all the way around! They don't have any drug to deal with their pain anymore, so all they have left is verbal words.

    You have no idea at ALL what it is like. Great, you posted your rant, now stop it with the attitude. You are pissing off a lot of people on here. And saying "Oh, I knew I would get flamed, but it frusterates me", and then continuing on on your charade is very insulting and demeaning to many of us on here. Just stop it already.

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