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    Default Mindset+compassion for men = more $$

    Please hear me out before you fling insults at me left and right. This is not meant to antagonize or be hurtful in any way--- This is coming from an observational point of view only and I do not judge anyone!

    After reading countless Threads, there is an over all general hostility toward your male customers.(Not Just the Nasty Guys)
    I have read---They dont tip enough, they are rude, they are losers, or Stupid.
    They may touch too much or try to lick you (yes gross) they get hard and it grosses you out, or they want “extras”. They say sexual things to you etc…

    My question is simple, In a business that is solely customer relation based, why are there so many negative remarks and posts about the very people you need to help put food on your table?

    A strip club is a place where a man can go to do and say things he cannot or usually doesn’t have the nerve to do in public. Most hot women aren’t coming up to these guys at a regular bar and putting their perfect breasts in his face or simulation sex for him. So a guy’s mindset at a strip club is completely different than anywhere else on the planet! Of course he wants to touch you or pull you close to him, or even get off!
    Not saying that he has the right to, nor am I advocating extras at all -just that YES OF Course he wants you, he is paying for you to get naked for him!

    I was thinking that perhaps the dancers spend so much time at the club, the atmosphere becomes so normal to them so they expect a customers behavior to equal that in a regular club where normal boundries exist? However, for a guy it is so far out of norm from his every day life, it is harder for him to act the way you would want him to because he is in some fantasy land??

    Again I don’t approve of men who grope and try to touch you inappropriately, however, you shouldn’t be surprised that a guy would want to do that.
    It’s part of your job, it’s your occupational hazard dealing with those type of asshole idiots!

    Anyway, back to my point. Let's say that Rockstars and Bands had a website where they could communicate to each other. They constantly wrote threads where they voiced their frustrations with their fans and felt they were rude, or stupid or didnt spend enough money, or they smelled or they were fucking losers. Do you think they would sell more albums and create a comfortable working relationship with their fanbase? I doubt it!

    Your run a business and dealing with asshole customers is part of the job, comes with the territory. I agree that some men shouldn’t even be allowed in the clubs, but if you don’t like the "occupational hazards" of being a stripper, you shouldn't be a stripper! As far as I know, it is a choice one makes and you can always move on....

    Your success in this business is based entirely on your customer’s happiness and to have any built up animosity will translate directly into one thing---Less money for you.

    I find it to be such a contradiction after reading many threads that a dancer can be so negative to the very people they need to survive!

    Thanks for allowing me to rant- I know that most of you are strong willed, smart opinionated women----Please don’t throw daggers, just offering a different point of view!
    Thanks-

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    I have said it before but I'll say it again - the posts we make are about the worst customers. The downright vile ones. The ones we don't like.

    If you honestly think we're posting about YOU, then you're probably one of the bad ones.

    Many men here read these threads and know it's not about them because they don't act like the men we describe.

    And talking about the best customer with the nicest pocketbook and personality isn't very entertaining.


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    I see your point... And no I wasn't talking about me personally!

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    This is a STRIPPER website..not a CUSTOMER website. We magnanomously allow you to be a part of this world..but it is OUR world. And in our world we can come here to gloat, share ....adn yes VENT about the very large amount of creepy nasty customers we have to deal with.

    And many of us do not NEED the creepy nasty guys to put food on our table. There are plenty of customers who know the boundries quite well and do not feel the need to disrespect us and cross those lines.

    Those that do..shoudl be ashamed of themselves.

    We deal with the "occupational hazards" as you so kindly put it of our jobs..if we didnt ...we wouldnt still be doing it would we? Doesnt mean it is ok, doesnt mean it is acceptable and sure as HELL doesnt mean we dont have the right to bitch about it.

    It's lovely that you think we should put up with these asshole customers with a smile and not complain because our SURVIVAL depends on it.....but sorry to burst your bubble....it's just not true.

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    Erm. Thanks for the info.

    I admit there is a lot of ranting. But saying things like "yup, everyone was polite tonight" is a boring thread. It's the obnoxious customers that stick with us.

    I think complaining about clients is fairly standard in any job. I guarantee you waiters and waitresses complain about obnoxious customers. I work in a corporate office now, and we all bitch about the annoying vendors or the stupid customers who ask stupid questions. It's human nature...when someone is rude, you complain to people who will sympathize.

    This is a site for STRIPPERS. Notice only one section (on the pink side) is dedicated to customers. This is a site for the ladies to complain, celebrate, and exchange advice about all aspects of life, from relationships to their dogs to yes, stripping.

    As for us complaining about customers...I dont think it's a problem. As I said, everyone complains about rudeness, but in the case of strippers, the customer infractions can have far more serious consequences then say, a customer not tipping a waitress.

    We have guys who try to rape us. Guys who smack our asses (assault, anyone?). Guys who try their hardest to come (potential diseases for us). There's been nights where I've left with bruises on my wrists from guys who kept grabbing me and pulling me down.

    So yes. As long as we have clientele like that, we'll bitch all we want, thanks.


    Oh, and remember, we are strippers, we are very talented at posting a smile on our faces and acting sweet. If a guy doesn't come on here, he most likely has no idea we find him disgusting.

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    Where do you get off? I know you said no throwing daggers, but this thread is an abortion. We shouldn't be surprised that guys want to grope us? We should get out of the business if we don't like the occupational hazards? We don't need customers to survive, it's not a "biting the hand" kind of situation. You find dicks in every line of service work.

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    I guess you didnt understand my point.....
    As I stated, I don't advocate/accept asshole customer actions and course you can bitch about it. But it shouldnt be such a shocker that they exist and yes they are occupational hazzards! THose types of men typically dont get any chance to touch a woman outside of a strip club. That's why you get to deal with them, which makes them an occupational hazard.... Do you think those men will ever just disappear???

    My point was after reading several Threads, MOST, not all of the comments toward men in General, not just the jerks -Is Really Negative- I wanted to know why? They are the ones you need to make a living.

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    I understood very well, thanks.

    I shoudlnt' be shocked they want to grope me? So what am I supposed to do, smile and accept it? No. It is against the law to try and rape a woman, it doesn't change when you walk into a strip club. If they are willing to treat a stripper like that, I guarantee you they've treated other women badly too.

    And I MAKE them disappear. The minute they get grabby, the bouncer is there to kick em out, and I still get my money, and do the next dance for the nice polite man who keeps his hands to himself, and still pays just as much.

    I like men. I just dont like men who think being in a strip club gives them the right to grope me, leave bruises on me, or degrade me. I dont need those types to make a living, there's plenty of nice guys in a club.

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    Default Re: Mindset+compassion for men = more $$

    We are supposed to be dancer friendly and productive here...or at least pretend that we are. I don't see a rant as productive.

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