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    "I learn so much from you"

    OK so just got home from another lovely workday... moneys still fuckall nil.

    I know i haven't been dancing terribly long.. But i really feel like I HAVE improved a LOT onstage, and can put on a damn good show. maybe its egotistical, or deluding myself, but I know i work hard at it, and I feel like it shows.

    There was another dancer on shift today, who, I gather, has been dancing less than two weeks. It was her second day at my club, and she'd just started at a different club, that I used to work at.

    We were talking well getting ready, making nice and polite and jazz... there was already a bit of drama... So for the entire shift, she'd come to watch me onstage... After I got off from my first set, she said "DAMN, you SURE can work the pole!"(I can do a few tricks, though nothign too spectacular) later, she said "I keep watching you go on-your gorgeous, and I think i learn something new every time!"

    I'm sure once you've been doing this a while, you get used to it, and the novelty fades... but DAMN i was happy!

    I miss teaching, its been something I've done for YEARS... teaching my sister when we were homeschooled, teaching piano during high school, teaching piano and tutoring in music recording software during college...
    So yeah, to me its a HUGE compliment if someone tells me I'm smart, or say's they're learning from me. Major happy feelings! Either way, it was the highlight of my godawful night...

    I guess it just kindof made me think on the whole situation... yeah, money's SUCKED this month-not even minimum wage despite working a LOT.... But I really like doing this. I like clicking into my Daniella personality, with her baby innocence, ever present smile and sarcastic comment... To an extent, I even enjoy lying, about where i'm from and all that, and making up a bit of a history for myself.

    So yeah, I ordered some new makeup, and am working at stepping up my look, going to audition at another club as well, that i have a feeling "daniella"s cute cuddly personality would be well suited to...

    Its funny, because normally i have a REALLY sharp wit, but you'd never hear it, because I'm socially anxious and keep it to myself, so going in there, and just cutting loose with the verbal acumen is just scary liberating! I'm not used to feeling CONFIDENT!

    So any portland girls who have advice for me on kicking up the look a notch, I'm open! Ready and waiting for the molding, and already working on myself! I just want to earn enough to keep up the nice well groomed hands, buy a new pair of shoes and make some outfits, and take a pole class... Doesn't seem like that much to ask...

    its just disappointing, feelign like i'm doing so WELL with the learning curve on this, and feeling like I have something to offer, and still coming home with 20$.

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    It's great that you've learned tricks and developed a stage presence. That's so important in a stage-centered club.

    Can I ask which "look"/makeup items you bought from UD? I'm excited.. I love their stuff so much.. I no longer wear anything else. It's going to make a big difference in your money!

    Okay, another trick in Portland is too look around at The Red Light (two stores, on SE Hawthorne and SE Stark St), they often have lingerie, dancer clothes/shoes, and sexy costumes, cheap. You can also trade in your old clothes/shoes (if they'll take them, they can be VERY picky) for cash or store credit.. so technically it's possible to walk out with free stripper clothing.

    Also, never come off as TOO nice/cuddly/friendly. I used to make that mistake, and I drew the kind of people who wanted to take advantage of the newbie dancer. Never listen to anybody who says "You're not like other dancers/you're so different" because they're about to con you in some way - for your real name, a date, a free dance, or your time. I made much more money when I stopped chatting with guys for song after song (even if it's slow). Don't be passive in the conversations; steer the dialogue back towards dancing, how hot you look, the club and how nice it is, how great your dances are, etc. Otherwise, you will never be able to get the conversation back on track - it will fall off the cliff and forever into the Friend Zone.

    Best time to hustle is always at the stage with your boobs in his face. Don't ask for a dance, say something like "I bet you'd love a closer look." or "You'd like to have me all to yourself now, wouldn't you?" Practice makes perfect.

    And finally, if your new club is still dead, politely leave and find another one.. as many times as it takes. You're not obligated to stay anywhere.

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    Read the Psychology of Selling by Brian Tracy. As much as it's fun and awesome to explore the performance side of dancing, to really make money you need to understand the sales aspect of your job and be able to have your dreams and ambitions be congruent with your dancing career.

    And superflirt by Tracey Cox -- the BIBLE on sexxxxxy body language and how to read customers.

    Oh and pixie -- great advice about hustling from the stage (off of the HH thread)! I actually used your trick last night (not using the word 'dance') and I got every dance I asked for off of the stage! I'll bet I'll be able to perfect that one after a few more shifts.

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    I already have a bunch of skin products i'm happy with(its hard finding things that are pale enough for me, and that don't make me break out) and mascara that I love...

    Let me look in my makeup bag, see what's up.. i usually use the Kiss Me mascaras, because they're easy to remove, but REALLY work well in my lashes(they're long, AND thick...but colorless) I have a stick blush/shimmer I use, the brand is bella something... can' recall... Lipstick, I have a few neutral shades from Urban Essentials, and some deeper reds(i wore them a lot at "punk" places like DV8 to make me look more alternative)


    From Urban Decay, i focused on the eye makeup, I bought the eyeshadow transformer thing(clear liquid eyeliner that you blend with eyeshadow) Because I've been wanting it for a while but hadn't been able to find the clear stuff anywhere... Eyeshadow in the dramatic colors (Envy, Crash, Flipside, Goddess, Mildew, Last Call, Flash) some softer ones for blending (Mary Jane, Shattered, URB, Kiss, Asphyxia) and metallics/neutrals (Strip, Maui Wowie, Midnight Cowboy, and Midnight Cowboy Rides Again).

    Most of my eyeshadow collection is either stage makeup for ballet type stuff, or handmedown street makeup from family members with more money... Nice makeup, but its been hard getting it to show up like I want onstage... So i figure its a good investment in something that I can make back relatively easily, and its about time I did something like this to really make my look my own... Since its really the weak spot in my grooming regimen, i wanted to attack that first... may invest in a few other shades of lipcolor later on, or depending how i like the eyeshadow transformer, some other shades of eyeliner...

    Red Light rocks... i found a great pair of Pleaser knee high boots there several weeks back-in my size even! Haven't seen other costumes though, so I'll have to keep watching... i really need at least one pair of shoes(one of mines already coming apart-i've superglued it three times now!), and a few more tops...

    I hope i'm not coming across as "too" nice... I don't feel like I am, usually when the conversation strays too far, or they look like they're wasting time, I remind them I have to go back to the dressing room, unless they're sweeping me away for a dance(followed by a serious raised eyebrow , turning to comical pout and eyelash flutter), or I'll say "its a shame I have to go cool down in the dressing room now-I was just getting warmed up"... I'll have to try the "all to yourself" line...

    eeeeeeeee! I guess I'm just too upbeat at the moment! Taking tomorrow to drop by both Dolphins, see if one takes me(its a pretty good bus ride to either, so I just as soon try both) Hopefully my makeup will be here before work on saturday, I already can't wait to try it.

    I think its definately a confidence thing, between having much nicer nails than what I was doing on my own, and the makeup, I feel like a whole new person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by needtodance View Post
    I hope i'm not coming across as "too" nice... I don't feel like I am, usually when the conversation strays too far, or they look like they're wasting time, I remind them I have to go back to the dressing room, unless they're sweeping me away for a dance(followed by a serious raised eyebrow , turning to comical pout and eyelash flutter), or I'll say "its a shame I have to go cool down in the dressing room now-I was just getting warmed up"... I'll have to try the "all to yourself" line...
    There it is. You can be a LOT more aggressive and leading.

    "I want to dance for you now."
    "Oooh, it's time for me to dance for you."
    "We have a VIP room, shall we go?"
    "You'd love a dance now, wouldn't you?"

    Learn how to turn any topic towards the sale...

    You're so beautiful/hot/sexy - Thanks! I'm even more beautiful/hot/sexy when I'm in your lap (I realize you'd hafta adapt that for pdx)
    When are you going on stage again? - I can dance for you right now, c'mon, let's go.
    Blah blah blah - Wait! The voices are talking to me... shhhh, I can't hear them... oh! They say you need a dance right now!

    It's crazy the shit that works.



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    I like the crazy one, since whenever I do something stupid on the pole(like not quite managing the trick, or having my hair get cought between my knees thus rendering me immobile) I put on a dialogue with the pole for anyone who noticed "Oh sorry sweety, sorry I neglected you while I was talking to the nice man over there-you see? I still love you!"(to customer)"Poles are very tempermental creatures. NEVER piss one off, it'll dump you on your ass! " Its silly, but it diffuses the embarassment... and it leads into a "private dances are SO much more fun, because we don't have a pole jealously looking over my shoulder... You wouldn't believe how much better they are!"

    maybe I just have a warped sense of humor. But i can pull crazy off pretty well...

    I can see I'm going to be doing a lot of mirror work before my next shift...

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    I like it when I hit my competitive streaks... I think this definately did that to me...


    its funny, the same always happened when I taught piano! I'd find myself practicing EXTRA, and making a point of playing a difficult song RIGHT Before my student was supposed to come, so they'd hear me playing well, and have some aspirations...

    now I want to think that there IS something good to learn from me. Oy.


    I'm cracking up. Was reading the HH thread on pheromones, went to amazon to look.. and realized that my boyfriend left his amazon account open... so i hope it doesn't show in his search history... does it save that shit after you've logged out, or moved to a different computer? If i'd been smart, i would have searched for random books adn music before logging out so THAT would cover it but I panicked...

    He wont care, i'll explain the discussion and we'll move to a different topic. Its just funny.. particularely since he snuck up on me this morning and i hadn't hidden my vibe last night... ah well, its just another thing to laugh about...

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    It really seems like you're on your way. You're redefining your look, you're putting serious thought into how to hustle and things will hopefully just get better and easier from now on. I really think a club with better money potential would be more suited to your budding talent and I encourage you to try as many as you can in the PDX area. I think that in a few months you'll be making more than you had previously imagined and you will probably dryly laugh when you think about how you let a silly manager boss you around at Cabos.

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    Thanks, my next stop is the Dophins, just waiting for the makeup to come, so i can play and get comfy wearing it... Hopefully that will work out... I'm torn about staying at Jody's... I like the club, but i haven't made ANY money there yet... I'm told its unusual, but I don't know if its better for me to just wait it out.

    Its frustrating-part of the reason I started doing this is because I can't get a "normal" job... combination of REALLY bad job market, and people not wanting an employee who already has medical problems they'd have to work around... So even though I don't want to keep going in if its only minimum wage in tips, I have to keep bringing in SOME money...

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    I see a pattern of people employed at shitty clubs telling you that it's unusual that you aren't making money...and you believing them. Don't believe these people. It's probably totally norm for girls at Jody's and Cabos to make no money. Don't accept it. Find a better club. Why invest so much emotional energy into a club that you are "torn" about staying there? You're an independent contractor. Find the best situation.

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    You're probably right. I know its a slow time all around so I worry about being too quick to judge. Not to mention that I usually tend to be more loyal to companies than I really should be. Its gotten me screwed over a LOT. I don't know if the girls are lying about averages, because before I auditioned I knew two different girls who danced there, and swore they made more money there than even Club 205(where I met one of them). I guess normally I tend to assume that unsolicited advice(IE "I wish I was still at Jody's-I made SOOOOO much money there, its not as good here") is a little more accurate...

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    Managers and staff will lie because they want a body on the stage and fees in their pockets.

    Dancers will lie because they don't want to admit they're working for peanuts week after week.

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    ouch. Now i feel dreadfully stupid... Although it makes me feel better to think that there's so many of them who ARE working for peanuts, and its not just me...

    Gotta find a way to get past the whole peanuts thing! When will my makeup get here?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by needtodance View Post
    ouch. Now i feel dreadfully stupid... Although it makes me feel better to think that there's so many of them who ARE working for peanuts, and its not just me...

    Gotta find a way to get past the whole peanuts thing! When will my makeup get here?!
    Don't feel stupid.. I had to really think about it before it clicked with me, back when I worked at a bunch of crap clubs via Rockstar.

    Here's what I think you should do:

    Clear your schedule next week (or the week after, if you feel more comfortable). Find two new clubs to try. Plan to work only two shifts (not doubles) at each club. Just four shifts that week. Keep your sanity. Overworking causes diminishing returns, bruises, and general crankiness.

    Tell the club managers/bookers that when you are trying their club you will ONLY work the good shifts to see if it will work out for you. Phrase it something like this:

    "I can give you two shifts this week, because I am working at other clubs, but I need to know what kind of earnings potential I can achieve at your club. I know that you probably need girls during the day or on the slower shifts, and I am totally willing to help you out, but I need to know that I will be making good money when I've shown you what a good worker I am."

    Practice in the mirror, in front of your cat, in the car, whatever. It helps to say it out loud. It also helps that the proposal makes sense and is respectful; you will help them BUT FIRST they have to give you motivation and a taste of the good shifts. You are also not acting like a snob and judging whether their club is "good enough", but whether it is a "right fit". Explain that you can't afford to work a few weeks of really bad shifts, because you have done so at other clubs without reward (without sounding whiny/bitchy).

    Wear your nicest street clothes and a smile, looking like a hot, well-dressed chick off the street that anyone would want to see naked.

    Try any of the following clubs:
    Hotties (Juicebar in Beaverton)
    Carnaval (juicebar) - I think the owner posts here
    Exotica - rumors are that it's sleazy, but always busy
    Jiggles - yeah, I know, but there's money
    Dolphin II - they WILL stick you on days, most likely, but they also need girls badly for Sun-Wed nights, so use your bargaining skills. If you work days, try thurs-sun. Saturday used to be very good to me, now it's very hit and miss, but at least you'll be on stage A LOT.

    Wouldn't recommend the Dolphin I, from what I've heard about business.

    Okay, so try 2 next week, and if one or both sucks.. move on to the next.

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    ^ Very good advice. I have heard about girls making $600+ at juice bars. I'm not sure if transportation is an issue for you, but you could probably take a bus downtown to work at Carnaval or Cabaret. I think you said you auditioned for them already. Go back and fill out paperwork. Then refuse to work day shifts and take a cab home. I can't wait to hear about you having good money nights. You really deserve it!

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    Which juice bars are OK to work at? i've tried searching them on here and it doesn't turn up much info...


    If hotties isn't too bad, maybe I can drop by when I'm in beaverton to audition for Dolphin II...

    Carnaval is close to me-I'd be a little nervous though, since its close to home I don't necesarely want people to recognize me, particualrely since I have a fairly distinctive appearance...

    Exotica won't take me because I have an out of state ID, and I can't get an oregon ID without losing my health insurance. Otherwise I would be pushing harder to be there-i've heard the money can be OK there...


    I guess that I'll hope for something to work out with the Dolphin II, and then try Hotties and Carnaval...

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    I think i may seriously look into the juice bar thing. I don't like the idea of mor e contact, but i'm at my wits end.

    I KNOW i'm leaving jody's, the only question is if they're firing me.

    Dan scheduled me for a dayshift today, I know they get a large crowd in the mornings from the graveyard shifts getting off and having nowhere else to go... I show up, get yelled at for hurrying across the floor to the dressing room without an escort...(even though when I wait for one, they tell me I can't do THAT either!)


    And then they say "but no minors work before 4... its too hard to supervise them, go home!" So two hours out of my way(there and back) and they're feeding me THAT line... THEN they tell me "besides, you aren't on the schedule for this shift" How the hell am I NOT?! He GAVE it to me right over the phone, I said it back, and he CONFIRMED it! Its HIS mistake if he dind't know the club didn't want a minor working those shifts! THen they say "but you're on teh schedule to be in at four. See you then!"

    Umm. NO. That defeats teh point of HAVING a schedule, when its not accurate, and i can't SEE when I'm on it. I have to travel an hour on public tranportation either way. I'm NOT doign that, particularely NOT for the under 100$ thats all I've ever made there.

    It makes no sense, those liqour laws... for the amount of trouble, couldnt they just do a blacklight bracelet thats required to be worn at all times when in the club? And train bartenders that Bracelet=no alcohol? I haven't seen aNY club violate these laws with a dancer yet... s o why not make the laws something that allwos ME to have an income, and frees up their schedulign abilities, and simplifies the training they give to the bartenders, rather than memorizing which dancers are minors and snapping at them for existing....

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    Wow Jody's sounds like a bitch to work at too! If you need money now call Rock Star and get some night shifts at Nicolai St. in the NW. Just tell them you want to work there and you can only work X nights. BE FIRM! Then during the day audition at juice bars and other clubs. Work night shifts at the juice bar the nights you aren't scheduled at Nicolai. The liquor laws aren't going to change. I wish I knew exactly where you lived. I could give you better advice about where to go. PM if you want to. Also consider taking public transportation to work and paying for a cab to come home. Also consider that there are no stage fees or tipouts whatsoever at Nicolai so the 20-30 dollars you might spend on a cab home might not seem as bad as if you had to pay 25-30 dollars at the Dolphin for stage fee along with a 20 dollar minimum tipout. That's what I think you should do at this point. I usually made more than 100 dollars at Nicolai and you don't even have to talk to the customers at all. It's all stage money. I just sat there and read my books. I'm just suggesting Nicolai as somewhere where you can make money this week so you won't be eating ramen. In the meantime I think that Carnaval might be your best bet. It's closest to you and you don't have to take a cab home from Beaverton at night. A customer last night told me that since they turned Wildcats into a juice bar no one goes there anymore. That might or might not be true but that is what I heard. The woman that runs Carnaval is on this website. Do a search and contact her about an audition or just call up there.

    So here's the plan:
    - Work Nicolai this week at night to keep yourself afloat. Schedule through Tim at Rock Star. Their number is in any Exotic Magazine. DON'T let them con you into working day shifts. Make up any excuse not to. And they will call you and bother you about working at other places but just say you want Nicolai only.
    - Audition at clubs or juice bars close to you (so you can afford a cab ride home at night) during the day when you are not working. When you get hired schedule night shifts at those clubs the nights that you aren't working Nicolai. I bet in a week or something you can make better money somewhere else other than Nicolai and you can transition away from it. But you can also know it's always there for a little bit of cash.
    - Stop working day shifts!!! Just tell people that you can only work nights. If it's some sort of club rule that you have to work a day shift here and there then it might be worth it as long as you can work when you want to at night. For instance at the Dolphin II they were trying to get me to work 2 day shifts a week. I just sort of made excuses. I'm not going to drive 20 minutes to Beaverton to make 80 dollars in really shitty boring day shift! But yeah, they let me work whenever I wanted at night even when they were trying to get me to do this. And now they don't even care when I show up. They make me schedule, but I didn't show up for three of my scheduled days this week and the only thing the GM said was "Are you going to show up?" jokingly when I scheduled for this week.
    He obviously isn't trying to make me work day shifts anymore.

    Hope I'm not being too bossy. That's just what I would do. I know it's easy to get discouraged. Hope you have a good week!

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    Wheeeeee! My Urban Decay came... playing around, seeing how it wears... So happy! Have my routes all trimet-d to Dolphin II and Carnaval and Nicolai's... Have read superflirt and am halfway through Psychology of Selling... I feel prepared... I wish it was TOMORROW already so I could just get my ass out there and dance!

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    OK so carnaval took me right away, so there's that... Dophin II... for some reason i couldnt find it(the number on the adress not match up with teh location) so it made me about 20 minutes t oo late to audition. Will go back tomorrow and try again.

    Either way, feeling pretty upbeat, and lovin the new makeup...

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    A good way to get out there is to take 26 W. Take exit 69A and then 2A towards Hwy 10. Turn LEFT on Hwy 10 (it's sort of tricky but I think it's the second light) and you will soon be at the Dolphin II. It's across the street from the Target.

    Good luck tomorrow! And congrats on getting hired at Carnaval. I'm curious about that place.

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    I don't drive-I took the 54 bus... problem was that with teh adress weirdness, trimet told me to get off two stops early...
    I'm curious to see how it goes at Carnaval as well... i was there shortly after opening, so no customers.. I wonder what sort of traffic it gets at night... Seemed clean though, cameras in all of the private dance areas... Hope so, I'm a little nervous, what with all the bad things I've heard about juice bars.

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    Auditioned at Dolphin II, they took me... YAY...

    Got in an argument with the booker for Jody's... he called, says "your on the schedule for today are you coming?" Well, since there's three different schedules in circulation... Yours, the Bars, and the Dancer Dressing room, and none of them seem to agree, don't mind if I don't make the hour trip to be told to go home.. And don't tell me "you should have had the bar call me"... ITS YOUR PROBLEM TO DEAL WITH THEM, since like you said...YOU're the boss! And if you're out of town, whose direction am I supposed to follow? And sweety, don't assume that i can SEE a schedule at the bar or the dressing room, when I'm harassed for going INTO your club because of my age... Its hard ENOUGH going in there FOR work, let alone just going in to "check the schedule". Know your club asshole, and don't make unreasonable expectations of me. You think I'm SuperMinorStripper? Try having the DJ walk you out to the stage and waiting for you to get off... THAT kills a hustle. Try having the bar complain if you wait for someone to notice you tryig to get an escort to teh dressing room. Then try having them complain if you hurry across WITHOUT the escort. Try missing at least the first minute of your stage sets because the DJ forgets he has to walk you to your set, and has announced your on stage one, but hasnt gotten you. NOW try going in for the hell of it to se the schedule, since he is out of town and doesnt post it until literally the DAY the old schedule ends.

    So he's ranting at me, while reminding me that "i'm talking to my manager" whenever I try to get a word in, and so i just said "No, i'm not working." and managed to hang up. Superior acting asshole.

    I really hate OLCC laws. The Dolphin II looks much better. Got the tour today, and aside from not needing an escort to the stage, they have a minor area thats within view of custy's... YAY!


    So I'm working dolphin II, and i have two shifts at carnaval. I have to see if I want to stay there-the owner seemed nice, and it would be nice to work the floor, but I don't like the idea of doing a masturbation show, and she made it sound like there was only one girl who actually DIDN'T do those... We'll see how the money is. Maybe i won't go insane if I do one shift a week there, and whatever at the dolphin... Thats the one thing to be said about Carnaval, is it looks like a lot of potential to earn money FAST, comparatively speaking... If you get even 2-3 1/2 hour shows in the shift, you've already made yourself the equivalent of a fairly high end of average day of stage tips and dances at teh liqour club.

    The idea doesnt thrill me though, video cameras and safety and all that be damned... Penii' aren't pretty to look at, and i'm quite happy having my boyfriends be the only one I'm near in that context...

    Just mulling through my options, and trying to get the irritation at Jody's out of my system.. How do these people get authority positions anyways?!

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    I'm so coming to Portland this winter.



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    Let me know when you're in the area... I'll find a fun recipe to cook... Do you like Hot Cross Buns? I have a yummy recipe that uses dried fruit, and sweet pain au lait dough... Or the pain au lait is good on its own... Or maybe i just need an excuse to cook... seriously though.. If you want any chamomile trimmings for oil or tea or anything, my chamomiles grown like wildfire, and I can't figure out what would use more of it...

    Aside from my favorite facial thing... (heat water, throw in chamomile and lavendar trimmings, hang a towel over your head, and make a "tent" over so the steam seeps in to your face.... actaully feels REALLY relaxing, because of the smell. and you can use the infused water to make a double strong tea afterward... Eep sidetrack!)

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