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    Default You all aren't going to believe the BS that Paper Moon just pulled!

    I'm tired (up for almost 20 hours) and hungry (haven't eaten since 3 pm) so this rant probably won't make sense but bear with me.
    I went to Paper Moon in Richmond for amateur night tomight. I arrive early at 8:00 to sign up since last time there were too many girls. I went back to my hotel to change then arrived back at the club around 9:30. There were only 2 of us signed up, but sign-in didn't close until 10. Some more girls showed up close to 10 so we were good to go. 8 girls in all. The DJ told us that the radio station dj would be arriving around 11:30 to handle the contest. He did arrive at 11:30 and took our stage names and song requests. Then we were supposed to wait until 12:30 when they would call us out again to give instructions.
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    Default Re: You all aren't going to believe the BS that Paper Moon just pulled!

    *blinks and looks for the rant*

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    Yeah.... Im confused too.

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    I'm doing it in stages cause my wi-fi keeps timing out.
    Rant cont: At 12:30 they call us out and say THEY AREN'T GOING TO HAVE THE CONTEST. The BS reason they give is that corporate isn't there to cut the checks. But here's the thing, the contest is EVERY Thursday. Didn't someone know they needed to be there? Plus, they have our addresses. We do have a thing called the Postal Service. The real reason is that ALL 8 girls were black! Even when we said we'd do it without the money, they said no. Now I'd driven in from MD,, 2 others came from NC, and of the 5 from Richmond,, 4 were auditioning.
    I went ballistic. I might be a southern girl at heart (from Memphis) but when pushed, I'm a true Washingtonian. I started in with how I wanted my $5 back for my drink. How we'd all been there for hours spending money on drinks and they gladly took our money and now are sending us away. Then I said how 4 of the girls were auditioning. Why would they want to work there after this? (I was just getting started.) Next I said how they knew this hours ago and I could've been sleep, not to mention that I didn't even need to be in Richmond. I could have driven to NC tomorrow AM straight from home. Next I said how I was contacting the corporate office and Vince tomorrow (I'd been emailing Vince about amateur night for over a week.) The guy kept telling us how he was just the messenger and that the owner said they couldn't do it when they called him. I told him I wanted to see a manager. The manager, Jason, was apparently too busy to deal with us. I said, when there is an issue in the club amanager deals with it. This is an issue and I want to see the manager. (Never did by the way.)

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    Part 3: So then he starts telling me how we can't go up anyway because there are all these girls on rotation who haven't been up yet. I tell him I've been there since 8, I've seen every single girl at least 4 times. He startes babblilng about some girls in the VIP for 3 hours who haven't been on stage yet. I explain to him that if the corporate person was there with the checks the contest woud be going on and the girs wouldn't be going on stage anyway so this was a non-issue.

    He finally gets sick of me and says he's going to find Jason. I hadn't even gotten to the part about how I don't smoke, I hate smoke and I'd been sitting in a smoke-filled room for 4 hours. Next thing I know, they say we can go on for tips - BUT we have to go on during the two-for-one break, ALL 8 at the SAME TIME. What the hell was that about?

    And there were supposed to be 2 more 2-for-1s but they only did one so we couldn't go up a second time.

    I must say it was a pathetic experience. The audience didn't even know what was going on so no one was paying attention.

    Well, I need a shower. I reek of smoke. Thanks for listening. God I wish I could change my mood to bitchy!

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    Default Re: You all aren't going to believe the BS that Paper Moon just pulled!

    That sucks! But I'm confused about this 'contest'

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    It's called the "Girl Next Door" contest. They do it every Thursday. Top prize is $500. The guy even tried telling us that they don't do it every week, that they don't advertise it all the time even though they have a huge billboard of it in the club, it's on there website and they have little table cards about it. (And there was an ad in the paper.)

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    That's howamateur night works in most clubs! Most of the time the girls have their friends there voting for them~!

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    Typical bullshit from the Spineless Fucking Pussies we have for "managers".

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    Default Re: You all aren't going to believe the BS that Paper Moon just pulled!

    So, why weren't you ranting about the obvious racism that made them cancel the contest in the first place? Sorry I don't feel much sympathy for your rant since you were outraged about some fairly small inconveniences in comparison to the black girls from whom the manager ran screaming. This is a great example of why many times as a black dancer you can do the right thing by taking a chance and travelling but you can't take for granted you'll be given any chance. So, although that situation sucked for you the black dancers' situation was beyond grim. Just go back another week. The black girls obviously can't but you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist View Post
    So, why weren't you ranting about the obvious racism that made them cancel the contest in the first place? Sorry I don't feel much sympathy for your rant since you were outraged about some fairly small inconveniences in comparison to the black girls from whom the manager ran screaming. This is a great example of why many times as a black dancer you can do the right thing by taking a chance and travelling but you can't take for granted you'll be given any chance. So, although that situation sucked for you the black dancers' situation was beyond grim. Just go back another week. The black girls obviously can't but you can.

    Maybe I'm missing something here, but the last time I checked I was black. As I stated, all 8 girls in the contest were black and since I was in the cocntest, that automatically included me. Maybe you should read more carefully before impling that my inconvenience was less because I wasn't black even though I drove 3 hours to be there.

    In reality my inconvenience was less because I don't want to be a stripper. I don't have to deal with the BS ever again. The two girls from NC are strippers down there (one is a house mom at a club near Raleigh even) and 4 of the other girls were trying to get jobs.


    Any way we did pull the race card. I explained it in the first version but didn't feel like retyping it. One girl, who's friends with one of the dancers, said how it was obvious racism because they had told her she had to do Ammie night to audition, that that was the only way to get hired, when she knew in fact that one of the girls working there tonight had gotten hired on Tuesday just by showing up. If we hadn't pulled the race card, had patrons bitching, had a dancer stand up for us, and let them know that knew what they were up to, they wouldn't have done even what little bit they did do. Now that I'm "rested", I can't believe I didn't pull the POLITICAL card, since I am working on a presidential campaign.

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    Shoot, Ran out of space. I'm doing this on my PDA. (Where was I?) So yes, I was denied a life experience, but the others are being denied their livelihood.
    AND lastly, I *WAS* the black "dancer" that the bouncer went running from. I'm the one that stood up for everyone because it was so blatantly wrong. The NC people, of course were used to it, but the other girls (other than the one with the dancer friend) had no idea what the club was doing, or at least how common it is. I was so adamant about it, I thought I was going to get kicked out of the club by "security".
    .Sorry thats not good enough for you when you believed I wasn't black but I would be glad that anyone stood up to these people regardless of their race or their perceived "lack of inconvenience".
    Now my stomach is upset all over again. I didn't think I needed to fight with you all about this as well.

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    Default Re: You all aren't going to believe the BS that Paper Moon just pulled!

    The part that you "didn't feel like re-typing" should have been front and center in your post! THAT'S worthy of a rant!!!

    How the hell should I know what race you are. You didn't state it explicitly. Don't blame me because you aren't using a black avatar! The whole post should've been far clearer to get the situation across effectively.

    BTW, it's not pulling the race card. That expression means you're using a trick or manipulation you're playing to win dirty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PorschaM View Post
    Maybe I'm missing something here, but the last time I checked I was black. As I stated, all 8 girls in the contest were black and since I was in the cocntest, that automatically included me. Maybe you should read more carefully before impling that my inconvenience was less because I wasn't black even though I drove 3 hours to be there.
    No Porsha, I think you should've re-read more slowly. I've read other posts from you and I know that you are black. BUT (correct me if I'm wrong here Opt.) I believe what optimist was saying you seem MORE upset by the fact that you had to sit around some smoky club all night, VS the plain view site that this club didn't want to pay ANY black girls top prize of $500.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist View Post
    ^^^^Then that's the part that should have been front and center in your post! And don't blame me because you aren't using a black avatar! How the hell should I know what race you are. You didn't state it explicitly. BTW, it's not pulling the race card. That expression means it's a trick or manipulation you're playing to win dirty. The whole post should've been far clearer to get the situation across effectively.
    I know what the race card is. Sorry I wasn't able to be clearer at 4 in the morning after being up for 20 hours, not having food for 12 and concerned about driving 4 hours today on no sleep..

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinammonkisses View Post
    I believe what optimist was saying you seem MORE upset by the fact that you had to sit around some smoky club all night, VS the plain view site that this club didn't want to pay ANY black girls top prize of $500.
    BINGO!!! You were in this fog talking about how the four girls who wanted to audition wouldn't want to work there.......that was the POINT of cancelling the contest. I was turned off by the post because I thught you were pretty insensitive. Now I see you were just scattered! LOL For christ's sake, get some sleep before ranting!

    Don't even think of wasting more time on those fools. Screw them and the horse they came in on!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cinammonkisses View Post
    No Porsha, I think you should've re-read more slowly. I've read other posts from you and I know that you are black. BUT (correct me if I'm wrong here Opt.) I believe what optimist was saying you seem MORE upset by the fact that you had to sit around some smoky club all night, VS the plain view site that this club didn't want to pay ANY black girls top prize of $500.
    Last post cause I have to be out of my room in 45 minutes. I didn't think I needed to state the obvious reason behind the bullshit here. I clearly said that they did it because all 8 contestants were black. And yes, maybe because I'm not a dancer, I was more bothered by the unfairness of the entire thing and was willing to point that out to them. I wanted them to know that by deciding to do this, not only were they being blatant racists, but they had wasted our time, our money, and our health. I thought that was something that needed to be pointed out.

    And Opt, the whole thing made a lot more sense the first time I typed it, but my wi-fi timed out and I lost the whole thing. By the time I typed it again I had forgotten most of my points. I would love to have gotten some sleep first, but I won't have internet again until Sunday when I get back home. I couldn't wait that long to rant. I would have exploded. Oh, I think I was too tired at Paper Moon as well and that's why my ranting to them was all over the place. Tired, hungry, and pissed don't make for a good combination when you are 37.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PorschaM View Post
    Last post cause I have to be out of my room in 45 minutes. I didn't think I needed to state the obvious reason behind the bullshit here. I clearly said that they did it because all 8 contestants were black. And yes, maybe because I'm not a dancer, I was more bothered by the unfairness of the entire thing and was willing to point that out to them. I wanted them to know that by deciding to do this, not only were they being blatant racists, but they had wasted our time, our money, and our health. I thought that was something that needed to be pointed out.
    After you've gotten a sandwich in your belly, and a restful amount of sleep, then come back on here. You really aren't making any sense right now.

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    The only thing consistant about Paper Moon is their inconsistency. They're always changing things around at tje last minute from contest to house fees/fines to features. Theu do advertise the contest as being held every week, every dancer in Richmond knows this. I do know that it has been cancelled due to lack of girls.

    As for the race issue I'm not so sure about that. I know I wsn't there when it happened but Paper moon is not the racist club in Richmond, I know which one is. I worked I'd say it's about equal in the ratio of black to white, granted I think there are more black girls at the souhtside location than at the downtown one. The clientele is different at both.

    Am I wrong or have you tried to do this contest before? If I remember correctly (and please forgive me if I'm wrong, no time to search I'm gonna be late for work!) the results haven't been good. Why keep continuing to try if it's a constant pain in the ass?

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    I got that she was black, and in a roundabout way, bitching about the obvious racism in that incident, from her initial posts. IMO, she didn't need to write "they wouldn't run the contest because we were all black!" in bold print at the top of the post to get the point across. I thought the point was made well enough, scattered as it was

    I thought it was interesting how the "managers" were such Spineless Fucking Pussies that they bounced all around the real issue with every dumbass excuse under the sun, but couldn't admit WHY they were cancelling the contest that day. What I got from the OP was that she was calling them out on all their bullshit excuses but they still wouldn't budge, so they were royal assholes.


    I don't think it was necessarily that they didn't want to give a black girl the prize, but that they just didn't want a contest of ALL black girls. That would've meant they'd have to run a rotation of 8 girls in a row, all black, plus the usual roundups at the end, and (being in the south) they were afraid some customers might get up and leave after seeing too many black girls in a row. Either way, it reeks of racist bullshit and it sucks.

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    Thats fucked.

    I'm sorry you had to go thru all that bullshit. I remember reading the post last time they wouldn't let you do the contest cause there were too many chicks.

    What my question is, if the owner wasn't on premsis, how did he know if they were all black chicks? Do you think the mgmt calls and says its all black girls and the owner says pull the shit? I'm not being sarcastic, it just blows my mind how fucking awful some subhumans are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post

    I don't think it was necessarily that they didn't want to give a black girl the prize, but that they just didn't want a contest of ALL black girls. That would've meant they'd have to run a rotation of 8 girls in a row, all black, plus the usual roundups at the end, and (being in the south) they were afraid some customers might get up and leave after seeing too many black girls in a row. Either way, it reeks of racist bullshit and it sucks.
    Sounds like that to me too. Of course if the management had ANY brains at all..they would have just pulled a cpl white girls off rotation(maybe a cpl new girls so regs wouldnt recognize them) to round out the group.

    I know I've been asked to be a ringer in amature night by clubs i worked at because they didnt have enough girls and didnt want to cancel. I woudlnt win..they let a real contestant win..but they'd give me free house or something for helping out.

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