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    I just have to let this out. A lot of times guys will ask me if I'm Dominican or spanish/latin. I respond saying "No I'm not. I'm Black." Then they're eyes bug out and say "Oh well you must be mixed with something, right? You're so cute/beautiful!"

    I'm offended by this. What the hell? Black women can't be cute? I don't get it and it pisses me off.

    Why do people think that in order for a Black woman to be cute, they have to be mixed. That's really fucked up.

    I just had to get it off my chest today.

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    I, CK hereby claim you an official member of SW Women of Colour!

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    So you have an exotic look and men like it. Doesn't mean black women can't be cute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmeerah View Post
    I just have to let this out. A lot of times guys will ask me if I'm Dominican or spanish/latin. I respond saying "No I'm not. I'm Black." Then they're eyes bug out and say "Oh well you must be mixed with something, right? You're so cute/beautiful!"

    I'm offended by this. What the hell? Black women can't be cute? I don't get it and it pisses me off.

    Why do people think that in order for a Black woman to be cute, they have to be mixed. That's really fucked up.

    I just had to get it off my chest today.
    Ive seen many black women who I thought were stunningly beautiful. I can't say that I wondered for even a millisecond whether they were of any sort of mixed race or not.

    Black is very beautiful, period (says the pasty white guy )

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    B/C most people are extremely ignorant(dare i even say racist)....whether they admit it or not

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    The return of the backhanded compliment! I hate those. I'm sure they always seem like nice words to say until they have fully exited the mouth. Its odd enough to receive such a 'compliment' when you're mixed (as I am as well with black) but I always wonder how it feels for someone who is full black.
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    they might not be saying black women can't be cute. they might be saying mixed people look better than any pure race.

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    ^^^ And that's the damn truth, too.

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    nah, there are plenty of unattractive people that are bi or multi racial. the fact that people tend to assume or presume that 'mixed babies are prettier', etc. is kind of the heart of what the OP was venting about. if people didn't have this retarded idea that 'mixed' looks certain ways and those certain ways are 'more attractive', then perfectly attractive people who identify as uniracial (particularly, but not exclusively black people) wouldn't hear this kind of stuff.

    there's a lot of sociological and historical stuff buried in all that sort of mixed=omg teh hawt reasoning, most of it quite unpleasant, but also beyond the scope of this thread.

    suffice it to say i agree with the OP that it is immensely stupid and backhanded and, well, i will straight out say it-- RACIST to say 'i find this black woman attractive, therefore she MUST have some other ethnic background than african, because i couldn't possibly find a purely african woman attractive'.

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    Sorry babe I hate those backhanded compliments too. Some men (and people in general) dont even realise how stupid and insulting what they are saying is.

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    I forgot to mention that I hear this mostly from Black men. So, I wouldn't say it's racist. It's pure ignorance.

    A lot of "mixed" (Black and something else) look simply like they're Black to me. Black people come in all shapes, sizes, complexions, hair textures, and have different eye colors too (more rare).

    So it's really odd when Black people make statements like that. They really need to get out more.

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    Oh that takes me back to my childhood. People would point and say "Shes really pretty for a black person" Black people were not seen or allowed to be seen as good looking at all, let alone beautiful.
    I am mixed race but in England in the 70's mixed race = black.
    Its interesting Ahmeerah that you say its mostly from black men that you hear it - Ive only had it from white people. I imagine that its just come down to the European idea of beauty being the norm. Lets face it, it is an issue for black people period. Even though things have changed somewhat over the last 30/40 years, never have black, black people been pushed mainstream as ideal beautiful people. And the blacker people who have - well its only been a fairly recent thing.

    There is this think about mixed race people being beautiful though. Ive had white guys coming up to me wanting to have babies with me so they can have mixed children - yeah right, lol! bad, bad, bad chat up line. And er - mixed race people being beautiful - I always say thats not so, look at Prince :-D

    These days too, if I say Im black (white) people will sometimes argue about it and insist that Im not as if its something to be ashamed of. Yes Im light skinned compared to some other black people, but so what?!

    People are just ignorant - there is still a long way to go.

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    Hey whatchit, Aussiepunkshocker. I love Prince.

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    i think it's racist because black people especially in america, but not exclusively, have been brought up surrounded by racist imagery and patterns of behavior and thinking.

    it goes back to w. e. b. du bois and the double consciousness black people in america have to adopt-- the racist white views of them and their own actual views. and sometimes the first set of views wins out.

    i mean, a black man saying to a black woman 'you must be mixed, you so pretty' didn't get that self-hating remark from nowhere, you know?

    but, anyway, backhanded compliments are not really compliments, even if people try to pretend otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmeerah View Post
    Hey whatchit, Aussiepunkshocker. I love Prince.
    Sorry!

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    Prince is hot, it's a matter of taste. I'm sorry stupidity accompanies those who surround you.

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    I think some black women are beautiful as well as all races, but honestly in my humble opinion, I don't really think a light skinned black person is 100% black. It just can't be. There is some mixture somewhere. Black, yes, but other ethnicities as well.

    Also, a white person that is tanned, I don't really consider to be 100% white. There is some other mixture in as well. Mostly black, to be honest, and sometimes Native American is common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinammonkisses View Post
    I, CK hereby claim you an official member of SW Women of Colour!

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    People say this to me ALL the time, ITC and OTC. It used to bother me, but now I just brush it off. I don't have time to educate this sort of ignorance. Plus, if we spent all our time being angered @ such backhanded comments, we wouldn't have any left over to appreciate our beautiful chocolate selves!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KentuckyMysteryMan View Post
    I think some black women are beautiful as well as all races, but honestly in my humble opinion, I don't really think a light skinned black person is 100% black. It just can't be. There is some mixture somewhere. Black, yes, but other ethnicities as well.

    Also, a white person that is tanned, I don't really consider to be 100% white. There is some other mixture in as well. Mostly black, to be honest, and sometimes Native American is common.
    Fortunately, the actual ethnicity of a person of any skin color is not determined by you and your factless opinions on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmeerah View Post
    I forgot to mention that I hear this mostly from Black men. So, I wouldn't say it's racist. It's pure ignorance.
    Black people can be racist too. Ignorant/Racist...not much of a difference.

    I know black people who are racist towards white people...and i know black people who are even racist towards black people. It can work anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prester_John View Post
    Fortunately, the actual ethnicity of a person of any skin color is not determined by you and your factless opinions on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prester_John View Post
    Fortunately, the actual ethnicity of a person of any skin color is not determined by you and your factless opinions on the matter.
    that made me giggle
    i used to dream militant dreams / of taking over america / to show these white folks how it should be done
    i used to dream radical dreams / of blowing everyone away / with my perceptive powers of correct analysis
    i even used to think / id be the one to stop the riot and negotiate the peace / then i awoke and dug
    that if i dreamed natural dreams / of being a natural woman
    doing what a woman does / when shes natural
    i would have a revolution

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    Quote Originally Posted by KentuckyMysteryMan View Post
    I think some black women are beautiful as well as all races, but honestly in my humble opinion, I don't really think a light skinned black person is 100% black. It just can't be. There is some mixture somewhere. Black, yes, but other ethnicities as well.

    Also, a white person that is tanned, I don't really consider to be 100% white. There is some other mixture in as well. Mostly black, to be honest, and sometimes Native American is common.
    KMM:
    It seems that you are defining "ethnicity" and "race" strictly by the presence or absence of pigment (melanin). In MY humble opinion, "ethnicity" and "race" are not interchangeable terms, particularly when you're thinking in absolutes like "100% white" and "100% black."

    I identify as a Black man racially. However, my grandparents are from 3 different countries on 3 different continents (Nigeria/Africa; England/Europe & Guyana/South America). I am green-eyed & fair-skinned with full African lips, kinky blonde hair (I shave my head) and rosy English cheeks. I am also a Biafran War refugee who grew up in Nigeria and then England after rampant genocide threatened our family. Upon moving to America decades ago, I was assimililated-- in true "melting pot" fashion--into what passes for U.S. culture in Southern California.

    "100% black?" "100% white?" Which is less American, KMM? I sense what you're grasping for, but I'm not feeling it at a gut level. Probably my Heinz 57 background, dude...

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    Fact: People of Africa pre Europeans being there ranged from very light skinned to very dark. There are also albino "black" African people, in some tribes albinos were very common (still are).


    Quote Originally Posted by KentuckyMysteryMan View Post
    I think some black women are beautiful as well as all races, but honestly in my humble opinion, I don't really think a light skinned black person is 100% black. It just can't be. There is some mixture somewhere. Black, yes, but other ethnicities as well.

    Also, a white person that is tanned, I don't really consider to be 100% white. There is some other mixture in as well. Mostly black, to be honest, and sometimes Native American is common.

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    Budai, I don't think one of more American than the other. Americans are all races. You are not 100% Black or 100% white as you admit, and I don't claim to be 100% anything neither.

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