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    Default Stage Cutthroat Prevention

    CHeck this out
    In my club, its pretty common for a dancer to loose the customer she was sitting with while she has to dance on the stage.

    Maybe I should say this:
    "Darling, Ive been having such a good time sitting with you..can I come sit with you when I get off the stage?"
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    Default Re: Stage Cutthroat Prevention

    Why don't you want to ask him to sit at the tip rail? If he's been enjoying your conversation, there's no reason he shouldn't want to get the best seat for your stage show. Just be cute and say, "Oh, I have to go on stage now, but I don't want to leave you! How about you come and get a front row seat for my performance and I'll give you a little personal attention?" And then when he's up there make sure you get real close and give him a great view. I think this is the best way to keep ahold of him.

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    Default Re: Stage Cutthroat Prevention

    you really have to close the sale before going to stage, unfortunately.

    I would say something like, "oh, darn....I have to go on stage. I'd really rather just dance for you. Maybe we can go to the VIP now so I can be skipped and be all yours?"

    Or you have to get him to be so into you that no other girl can steal him away, but that's very difficult to do if you just met. if he insists im seeing you on stage, tell him you'd like to dance for him when you get off. You can tell a lot about him from what he says and how he says it.

    Also, don't assume that he wants you to come back. You might not be his type.

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    Default Re: Stage Cutthroat Prevention

    If you are paying attention to the rotation you know when you're about to get called on stage. In small clubs it's easy to know when your turn is 2-3 girls away. At that point, get alot more friendly and start pushing VIP. Then if you make the sale, you're going to VIP instead of going to stage

    If you can't close the sale before stage, then by all means, ask him to come to your tiprail "because it's the best seat in the house" or some other line. And make sure to let him know you're coming back to "molest" him when you're done. Then when you're off stage, go right back to him! Don't just let the other chics run over you, take charge. Go back to him and plop right down on his lap, or take him by the hand saying "time for me to molest you now", and start pulling him gently in the direction you want him to go.

    And hell, if it's "ok" at your club to hustle like that, I'd take any chance to sit with the guys THOSE girls are leaving when they go on stage. Might as well take advantage of the situation and work the guys they have been priming too...

    Sometimes small clubs like this are the hardest to work in, because of crap like this. So, you have to step up and get aggressive if you don't want to keep losing out to other chics.

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    Default Re: Stage Cutthroat Prevention

    I try to leave a nearly empty drink when I go to stage. That way my seat is saved for when I come back (whether a girl is sitting there or not). I leave it nearly empty so that I don't have to worry about him messing with my drink, I just order a new one since the old one is "watery/warm/too sweet/whatever". If I don't have a drink, I ask him to save my seat and tell him not to get into any trouble while I'm away.

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    Default Re: Stage Cutthroat Prevention

    Quote Originally Posted by Littlelo View Post
    I try to leave a nearly empty drink when I go to stage. That way my seat is saved for when I come back (whether a girl is sitting there or not). I leave it nearly empty so that I don't have to worry about him messing with my drink, I just order a new one since the old one is "watery/warm/too sweet/whatever". If I don't have a drink, I ask him to save my seat and tell him not to get into any trouble while I'm away.
    And then some other girl plops down in your seat anyway....then what?

    You can't let it get to that point. The customer is not a parking spot and just because you were there first, it doesn't mean he's yours. You have to take control and not think that a drink is going to do all the work for you.

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    Default Re: Stage Cutthroat Prevention

    ^^^ Yeah.. Even in clubs where the dancers are not "cutthroat," nearly empty drinks don't seem to mean much to anyone...

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    Default Re: Stage Cutthroat Prevention

    This is a major problem when working dayshift or in a club that doesn't have enough girls so you can get skipped from the rotation. But if it's at all possible, see if you can tip the dj so you don't havr to go onstage or as often as other girls do. i wish i had better advice but this is one of the things that have always bugged me and i don't have a solution for it.

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    Default Re: Stage Cutthroat Prevention

    What I've always done is either one of two things. One, before I go on stage I say 'Oh, I've got to go on stage now, but if you'd like I can take you back for a dance as soon as I get down?' They usually either say yes then or maybe later. If they say yes, most of them tell the other girls who approach that their waiting for you. If I havent been there long enough to feel comfortable closing the sale I say how much I'm enjoying the conversation and ask if they'd like me to return when I get down. If theres another girl there when I get down I walk by and smile at the customer, letting him see me. If he wants me, he usually tells the other dancer so, if not, he smiles back and I just keep walking. Its important not to be rude when doing this though, I wouldnt stop there at the table to make sure he saw me, know what I mean? Just casually walking by.

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    Default Re: Stage Cutthroat Prevention

    I hate it when I warm the guy up and have to go onstage and another dancer distracts the custy from my stage performance and swipe the custy right from under me and take em' back for a dance, but it's the nature of the beast. I try not to get too disgusted at certain dancers for this tactic.

    Some guys aren't that picky and won't wait for you. If at all possible I try to close the deal and get the money before going onstage. Who wouldn't wait for the girl who's got your cash?

    If the custy is truly interested, doesn't want to come by the stage, and won't pay in advance, I politely excuse myself for stage, but only after going over the ground rules of why he should wait for me, and when I'll be back, and what to say to get rid of anyone else that comes by while I'm gone, and I'll even throw in that I'll be watching you from the stage -- anything to keep them where I need them.

    The success rate is 50/50, but even if the custy isn't there when I get back they often find me later and spend money because I laid such a great guilt trip earlier... Whatever works!

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    Default Re: Stage Cutthroat Prevention

    All of these replies are good advice. I just say, "Oh, I have to go onstage next. Will you save my seat for me?" But Emily's advice, close the sale before you go onstage is pretty good too.

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    Default Re: Stage Cutthroat Prevention

    usually for me I just come back to the table and unless the girl is an enemy I say something to the custy like "who she is hot you have good tastes" this sets things up for a tag team and if the girl is too greedy at that point she will walk away the guy is happy because he likes a girl who shares and most like girls who like girls the other girl is happy and now ive made a partner and if he was planning to spend money my original efforts where not wasted

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    Default Re: Stage Cutthroat Prevention

    How long are you sitting before you ask for a dance? I never sit longer than one song without going for the wallet, but I also work in a busy club. And if you think he's really into you, warn him of the vultures and get him to agree to a "date" after you get off stage.

    Then when you are done you can just walk over and take him to the back, whether or not there is another girl sitting there. If she's trying to cut your throat you have to fight fire with fire. If she has succeeded in getting him to the back in the short time you've been on stage, then maybe he wasn't going to get dances from you anyway.

    I can't imagine working where girls pull that shit. It happens occasionally at my club, but it is definitely not standard behavior. In most places, girls will kick your ass for cutthroating, but if that's how they all behave you will have to adapt your hustle.
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