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    Default Customers confuse me, and I am one.

    I've never really understood the whole customer mindset...I mean, yes, I am a customer. Yes, I do find you girls attractive. However, and this is important to me, I realize a few things that apparently a lot of other people don't in that setting. It's your job, and I love you for it. You get naked, you make me feel validated and important, and you act like the things I have to say are interesting (most of the time, they aren't, but thanks for humoring me anyway ). It could be argued from a customer's standpoint that you girls are very good at making us feel special. But that's another aspect of your job, and it doesn't mean that we (the customer) are any better than anyone else. Why some people don't get this is beyond me...are we so desperate for validation, as a gender or possibly as a species, that we are willing to suspend disbelief that this gorgeous, naked (or soon-to-be-naked) woman really thinks we're the greatest thing since sliced bread? It's unreasonable.

    I mean, there are a few girls that I do hang out with OTC, but it's just that...hanging out with somebody that I get along with. I don't understand how people are so unable to distinguish fantasy from reality. These are usually the same people who go on to blame videogames for violence. If I had a nickel for every time I wanted to punch out most of these people, I wouldn't need to look for a job.

    I mean, there are times (they are very rare, but they have happened) that I would almost consider asking a girl out. But I stop myself, because I know she's heard it all before, and I'd rather be comfortable in the business relationship. It's escapism, people, can't you just leave it at that?

    That's just my thoughts on the situation. People annoy me, I guess.
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    So many people are in denial. In many areas of their lives. Its further excacerbated in a SC setting where alcohol and females sweating out phermones intermingle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowles View Post
    It's escapism, people, can't you just leave it at that?
    Word.

    And its not just strip clubs. I see people who indulge in other vices that are so enamored by its influence that they've lost that one remaining tether to reality, and can't seem to realize that their level of involvement in that vice is probably doing more harm than good.

    You see it in the teenager who skips his homework to play Everquest for hours on end, or the alcoholic who has downed more drinks in a hour than most would drink in a night, or the trailer park resident on a fixed income who's playing three slot machines at once at the casino.
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    /shrug

    For a few days a year people go on vacation and live it up like they are wealthy. They know they can't afford to live like that everyday, but it doesn't mean they don't want to enjoy a variety of quality sights and sensations for a fews days a year. I guess I really don't see anything wrong with some indulgence as long as it doesn't become a problem (i.e., an addiction).

    You wrote "...are we so desperate for validation, as a gender or possibly as a species, that we are willing to suspend disbelief that this gorgeous..."

    I think maybe you are over thinking it. It's just an indulgence, like spending a few hundred on an exceptional dinner. We do it on rare occasion because we can, because it's something to experience, and then we go back to our everyday lives for the rest of the time (most of the time).

    I'm sure there are other customers that get addicted to the indulgence, same with so many other addictions, a customer addicted to the SC or one who is spending money he/she can't afford, or doing so under false beliefs has problems for sure. But what can you do? Nothing. Addictions happen many areas of life to some people some of the time. Short of living in a world with nothing but rigid laws, I think it's just a risk that goes hand in hand with freedoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowles View Post
    People annoy me, I guess.
    LOL, welcome to my world. Strippers annoy me less than the rest of the population so I spend a lot of time with them....
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    seriously Snowles the customers I run into at CFolds are by far the most interesting creatures i've run into ... something in the TBay water I tell ya!

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    it would be unreasonable if actors never fell in love with their fellow actors, where it is pretty obvious that both parties are literally following a script that says they must pretend to love each other.

    but since they do, it's not unreasonable in the much more grey context of stripclubs.

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    I suppose coz people are not robots without feelings.
    Yes they know somewhere deep down that its all bullshit but at the time it feels good and they are just human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    it would be unreasonable if actors never fell in love with their fellow actors, where it is pretty obvious that both parties are literally following a script that says they must pretend to love each other.

    but since they do, it's not unreasonable in the much more grey context of stripclubs.
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    I suppose coz people are not robots without feelings.
    Yes they know somewhere deep down that its all bullshit but at the time it feels good and they are just human.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowles View Post
    ...are we so desperate for validation
    Speaking of which, isn't that what you are doing with this thread??? Looking for validation that you are a better customer than the average strip club customer??? I think you are underestimating most strip club customers BTW, most understand the deal.

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    Actually, he has a valid point here-at least from my perspective. Nearly every customer I encounter can't make the distinction between fantasy and reality. I get asked out by almost every single one of them. It would be oh so nice if they 'got it' like most men on here do.

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    ^^ Yes!

    And WORD to the escapism factor. Why can't it just be an interactive suspension of disbelief? When people go to Disney World, I don't think they really believe that the costumed characters are actually real-life English-speaking anthropomorphized mutant cartoon-human hybrids. You just play with them and have fun interacting.

    You don't try and take them home, you don't ask them why they're doing what they're doing and why it's all about the money (since they get paid for it, duh), you just enjoy them, along with the fantasy world environment. If you don't enjoy it - hey, Disney's not for everyone - you just leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by virgoamm View Post
    Nearly every customer I encounter can't make the distinction between fantasy and reality. I get asked out by almost every single one of them.
    Almost every single guy you dance for asks you out??? I'm not sure I'm buying it, but if it is true you must be damn good at what you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard_Head View Post
    Almost every single guy you dance for asks you out??? I'm not sure I'm buying it, but if it is true you must be damn good at what you do.
    No, its true. But sometimes the asking out part is also part of their fantasy, or they are very caught up in the moment. Almost every customer asked me out on a date, or asked me for paid sex. But often they would ask me out during the dances, but it was forgotten afterwards once the money was exchanged and he went back to reallity.

    So Rich_H., buy it because its true.

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    I wouldn't say every single one, but more ask than don't.

    I would say a difference between what I do and Disneyland is that the rapport I create with the customers is a little more sophisticated than their plushie costumes. Hey - it doesn't confuse me. Customers think I genuinely like them because that is how I act. I mean, I expect them to be easily reminded, but it doesn't bewilder me at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard_Head View Post
    Almost every single guy you dance for asks you out??? I'm not sure I'm buying it, but if it is true you must be damn good at what you do.
    Yes, it's true! Maybe cause I mostly work on weekends when the young guys come in? I honestly have no clue-but believe me, it happens! Yeah, it's flattering and all, but it's work not a friggin dating service!

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    Believe it, Richard. It vascillates bewteen "almost every single" and "at least half", but there you have it. Average night, in my experience, the majority of customers are determined to get you outside the club one way or another. Often without spending a cent on you IN the club. If you think this is rare for ANY dancer . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by virgoamm View Post
    Actually, he has a valid point here-at least from my perspective. Nearly every customer I encounter can't make the distinction between fantasy and reality. I get asked out by almost every single one of them. It would be oh so nice if they 'got it' like most men on here do.
    I strongly suspect that neither the dancers nor the customers who use SW are typical members of the full group.

    I think that the customers who show up here, start a thread with some outrageous question, and then are gone after a few days of being beat up are far more typical of customers in general.

    I'm not so sure about the dancers. I'd like to THINK that all of them are like the members here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virgoamm View Post
    Nearly every customer I encounter can't make the distinction between fantasy and reality. I get asked out by almost every single one of them. It would be oh so nice if they 'got it' like most men on here do.
    Hmm, I have mixed thoughts about this. Everything we wish for has costs associated with it if it was to really come to pass. For example, I think you see an overly large percentage of "junkies" on this site since by definition they've made an extra special effort to seek out a stripclub oriented site, but if you consider the total number of men on this site versus the total number of men who visit SCs, it's a tiny tiny fraction of population.

    So if you put the junkies aside, the question then is, if customers really "got it" how sure are you that their spending wouldn't (statistically tend to) drop off dramatically? My spending personally is pretty crappy. I only go twice or once a year in part because I do get it, and see no point in spending a lot of my income knowing what I know. My getting it caused me to spend less, not more.

    I realize there are junkies and exceptions who will spend more, but I kind of think they'd be junkies no matter what. But would the majority of customers spend more, less, or the same if they all really got it? And I have to tell you, being a guy, it's not hard for me to see them spending a lot less overall. The old saying may well apply ... be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowles View Post
    ... you make me feel validated and important...
    Interesting.

    I've done the S-C thing, off and on, for years. It has made me feel good. Sometimes made me feel disappointed. Occassionally made me feel satisfied and other times a little less so . It has never made me feel validated or important.

    While there might be many things that could cause one to feel important, validation comes from within. If you look for it outside yourself you are apt to be left frustrated.

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    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    My brother is a perfect example. Reality clashes with fantasy when he gets his bank statement. He spends beyond his comfort level and does without. This is in fact reality and what’s real and he carries that with him. Pay yourself first and give away what’s left over. I can’t get him to see the reality of this.

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    Well assuming your brother is an adult, that's really his business not yours isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard_Head View Post
    Speaking of which, isn't that what you are doing with this thread??? Looking for validation that you are a better customer than the average strip club customer??? I think you are underestimating most strip club customers BTW, most understand the deal.
    The view of the industry, albeit a shifting one, seems to be lending itself that same exact thought. That this is a fantasy.

    As the times go, the belief and pop-recognition it's getting is selling the fantasy, yet every day more and more customers want to see if they are that exception.

    They just sell themselves on believing they're the only person who's ever asked what her real name is, and explode violently when the reality comes crashing through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastridonicus View Post
    As the times go, the belief and pop-recognition it's getting is selling the fantasy, yet every day more and more customers want to see if they are that exception.

    They just sell themselves on believing they're the only person who's ever asked what her real name is, and explode violently when the reality comes crashing through.
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