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  • The mother

    27 60.00%
  • The passer by

    12 26.67%
  • The store

    12 26.67%
  • The cops

    10 22.22%
  • The 5 year old

    2 4.44%
  • Wal-Mart shoppers in general

    8 17.78%
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Thread: Unwanted ear piercing apparently constitutes "abuse"

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    Default Unwanted ear piercing apparently constitutes "abuse"

    Kind of a weird news story that's been in the headlines here the past couple days.

    http://www.kansas.com/news/local/story/113900.html

    In short...

    1. Passer by hears 5 year old girl screaming at Wal-Mart jewelry counter because she's getting ears pierced, apparently against her will.
    2. Passer by intervenes, and upon seeing that neither the store employee or the girls' mother are doing anything about it, calls 911.
    3. Police arrive to investigate incident and upon finding its just a girl getting her ears pierced, tell the passer by that she's "out of line" for butting in.
    4. Passer by is escorted from the store by police, and is told she is no longer welcome at Wal-Mart. Boo hoo hoo.

    Personally, I'm kind of riding the fence on this one. I mean, as much as I hate brownnosers, if a girl doesn't want her ears pierced (I mean c'mon, she's five) then for the love of God don't pierce them.
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    Agreed. It mirrors my stance on circumcision.

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    Yeah...I dont get the need to put a child of that age through pain for vanitys sake. She is old enough to say she doesnt want it..and old enough to remember the pain(which is why people often pierce the ears of infants..they wont remember the pain).

    I dont know if it constitutes abuse...but why all of a sudden at 5 did the mother decide it was imperative that her child have holes poked in her ears??

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    This reminds me of when my mom insisted on peircing my 3 yr old sister's ears and she was screming so loud that the whole store was staring. Then she lost the earings and the holes closed and the next year she took her in again. i was so pissed cause it just seemed like it was unecessary and for nothing. If it isn't physical abuse then it may be some kind of emotional abuse since it may make the child fearful and unable to trust adults.

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    My mom had my ears pierced when I was five and I screamed like hell. Then I fell in love with my pretty earrings and screamed like hell again when my mom took them away as a punishment. I had my ears re-pierced at 12 and suffered no lasting damage to my ears or my psyche. I agree that this ranks very low on the scale of things to be upset about.

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    I picked the mom, because well, why does she HAVE to get her child's ears pierced? If the kid says she doesn't want to do it, and is flipping out, don't force her to get it done.

    Oh, and I picked Wal-Mart shoppers in general, because I grew up in a town that centered around Wal-Mart. People went on dates to go there, people! I hate Wal-Mart, and most of the people in them because of that. What? I'm crazy, I don't have to make sense all the time. This is my loco moment of the month.

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    I think it kind of sucks, but it's not a big deal really. I got mine pierced when I was 3. My mom asked me if I wanted earrings and I said yes, but you'll be damn sure I screamed when it came time to face the music! Kind of like when I got my bellybutton pierced years and years later...

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    I hate parents doing this to thier kids....It's your child bitch...not some dolly for you to play 'dress up' with. We don't live in tribes anymore...what's your reason for it? really? Let the child chose thier own body mods...
    As for the cops being called, that's a bit excessive...and the store is retarted for getting involved in such a situation..
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSexKitten View Post
    I got mine pierced when I was 3. My mom asked me if I wanted earrings and I said yes, but you'll be damn sure I screamed when it came time to face the music!
    That is what I thought too but in the article it says the girl cried "I don't want this. Stop." Maybe she did want them and just got scared but either way I think that is where the mom should have stopped it.

    My earliest childhood memory was when I got my ears pierced (at 1 1/2). I can remember the salon and sitting on my mom's lap and exactly what the gun looked like. I just think that is kind of weird.

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    I wanted mine pierced and was probably around 9. I shreiked once when they shot the gun in but didn't cry. It was my choice and I recall it clearly. Why do that to a very young child who cannot consent?

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    I had mine done when I was a baby. That was very common when/where I grew up too. *shrugs* If the kid didn't want it, then don't do it. At that age, it's not worth the hassle, and the kid knows what they don't want. NOW.... if the kid is forever "I want I want" then flips out when you try to have it done? Tell the kid tough tits and wait till they're out of that phase.
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    It's inflicting pain on someon against their will. I'd say it's stupid.


    And aside from that... Walmart??? That's the most hygenic place they could find? I mean, those people are not trained to pierce ears. They're taught to grab earlobes and aim! And the piercing gun they use is by no means sterile!

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    Default Re: Unwanted ear piercing apparently constitutes "abuse"

    it's rough that kids don't really have any rights. even if they did, who would stand up for them when the parent wants to do something like that?

    it was none of the passer-by's business and the mother has issues.

    there are plenty worse things being done by worse parents that go unnoticed. sigh.
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    eh i dont see it as a big deal. if the kid is anything like mine, she wanted them and she begged for it. As the gun came she freaked out. I wouldnt stop either, ive dealt with the begging for xamount of time and now we're here...it's gettin done now or never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade View Post
    eh i dont see it as a big deal. if the kid is anything like mine, she wanted them and she begged for it. As the gun came she freaked out. I wouldnt stop either, ive dealt with the begging for xamount of time and now we're here...it's gettin done now or never.
    Pretty much how I see it. There are more than likely a lot of facts left out of the article that are vital to almost everyone's decision making process on this one.

    Some families still pierce ears young, some don't. Somehow I really can see the kid throwing a tantrum to get her ears pierced then throwing a tantrum when they got to it.
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    that's the best time to get pierced ears, so you won't remember the pain, and so people can tell you're a girl without you having to wear pink all the time. that's why i got mine pierced as a baby. in fact my sister got hers before ear guns, so they took a needle and forced it through her ear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilSweetVixen View Post
    that's the best time to get pierced ears, so you won't remember the pain
    This girl was 5...she'll remember the pain.

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    I chose the store, because I think it's silly that they won't let the lady still shop there. There's nothing wrong with what she did. Obviously the little girl was distraught enough that lady was very concerned for her well being. Then again I wasn't there, so who knows that it was as bad as the story made it out to be. It is Kansas, not like they have much else to report on there. Heh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nautilus View Post

    it was none of the passer-by's business and the mother has issues.
    agreed. I got my ears pierced when I was 5. From memory I had asked for it to be done and I remember fighting back the tears and trying to look brave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingerlee View Post
    I picked the mom, because well, why does she HAVE to get her child's ears pierced? If the kid says she doesn't want to do it, and is flipping out, don't force her to get it done.

    Oh, and I picked Wal-Mart shoppers in general, because I grew up in a town that centered around Wal-Mart. People went on dates to go there, people! I hate Wal-Mart, and most of the people in them because of that. What? I'm crazy, I don't have to make sense all the time. This is my loco moment of the month.
    People went on dates at walmart? what sort of date.

    i keep thinking of the southpark episode "something walmart..." that was a funny one.

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    I'll go all of you one better...and even though I hate "bans," I'd make piercing the ears of anyone under the age of 13 illegal, even with parental consent. There is no good reason that a child should need to have their ears pierced.

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    I think poking a hole in someone who is objecting to it is abuse.

    I was old enough to ask for them at, I believe three years old, and I was also a willing participant. My mom told me stories about how happy I was even though it hurt.
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    eh..come on, i know i asked to get mine done at 6 and then threw a fit in walmart. I think the lady should mind her own business.

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    I'm really on the fence about this one, so the only thing that I'll really object to is using a filthy piercing gun on a little kid. Come on now, when we used them we didn't know any better. Now we do and they really ought to be outlawed.
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    For me, i think it is the fault of the people forcing the child.
    shame on the mother, shame on the store clerk for not saying no and shame on the cops for letting the mother do stupid shit like that.

    When somebody is ready for a piercing they will ask for it and go get it doe. piercings are not for everybody.

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