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    So. I laughed, I cried. I grew as a human being. I had weird scary Harry Potter dreams.

    So the information in this book just kept on coming, didn't it?
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    I had some harry potter dreams too. I was really happy with the ending, I was dreading that Harry was going to die. He was so brave, I'm so proud of him. And I love the Hermione/Ron and Harry/Ginny ending, so sweet.

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    I could have actually lived without the 19 years later epilogue. I'm not sure what it added.
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    Default Re: Harry Potter 7 Discussion - there will be spoilers. If you haven't finished, go

    Where's the spoilers?

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    Default Re: Harry Potter 7 Discussion - there will be spoilers. If you haven't finished, go

    That wasn't a guarantee - more a warning. It's not my fault if nobody online right now really wants to discuss Harry Potter. (Me, I'm going nuts. My roommate won't finish for days.)
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    Jenny, you cocktease.

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    Okay fine. Dumbledore planned all along for Harry to sacrifice himself to Voldemort. Are you... satiated now?
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    No!

    :p

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    Whoa. That was totally the the Harry Potter/Stripclub equivalent of, like, FS. And it's STILL not good enough? Wow. There is something very wrong with my delivery.
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    hahahaha, you are so cool Jenny.

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    I was happy because I predicted a LOT of what ended up happening... and I didn't predict anything that didn't!

    But yeah. I had tears by the end of the third chapter. I liked how it started off harsh, and didn't let up.

    Definately not a kids book though. It boggled my mind going to the book store and seeing people there with their 5-7 year olds dressed up waiting.

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    I loved how Snape was in love with Lily.. knew it! But HATED the epilogue, the 19 yrs later thing. So many loose ends, and it was sachrannine sweet like fanfic.
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    I was happy that I was wrong in my predictions and Snape really was a good guy.

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    What the frack is this 19 years later shit?

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    the epilogue goes "and 19 years later Harry is married to Ginny and Ron is married to Hermione and their children are going to Hogwarts and the grown daughter of one couple is getting together with the grown son of another and everything is so great". I didn't think it really added anything - except the part where he was explaining to one kid how it didn't matter if he was in Slytherin.

    I really wasn't surprised that Snape was a good guy. I liked that we got to see the calculating "bad" side of Dumbledore - the part that used Harry as a game piece as well as the part that genuinely cared. I didn't like that we saw no follow up or resolution to the wanton cruelty we saw him engage in, even towards the end of the 7th book - or am I remembering wrong - he did use the Cruciatus curse on that Carrow, didn't he? I mean, even of all the forbidden curses, that is the one that has no possible reason except to inflict pain. You might say that during the way use of the killing curse and imperious curse could be justified because they, you know, DO something (although I was a little shocked at McGonnagal's use of the imperius curse where it was clearly not necessary); but I think the moment where Harry says "Bellatrix was right - you DO have to really want it" really required... something. Like I thought that was a helluva thing to just leave out there.

    I also thought there might have been a little TOO MUCH carnage. I appreciate that the book required real loss; and that you might require it for every small arch - like there is a price to pay for every small revolution. But I thought, at the end, Lupin, Tonks AND Fred - it was like you were a little numb, and it didn't have the emotional impact that it might have had. It was just too much in too short a time.

    I also thought the whole thing with the non-human magical creatures got a little submersed. Like Kreacher and Dobby were very forefront, but where Ron finally acknowledges the wizarding injustices to house elves, for example, I thought it got kind of lost in the Hermione/Ron ship. Speaking of - how freaking moving and sad was it when Dobby died?
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    lolitachick... I agree... the 19 years later thing didn't do anything for me.

    Really though, I wanted to see the cleanup and roundup, figure out who really WAS on what side.

    I sortof liked Stan Shunpike. I want to know if he was Imperiused, or actually bigoted.

    I BAWLED when Dobby died !

    And yeah, the wanton use of Unforgivables shocked me a bit at first... i mean one minute its life in azkaban for those who use them, then harry uses it in anger at Bellatrix, and its the biggest SHOCK that he could "stoop so low"...

    THen POOF everyones randomly firing them, and its no longer good enough to do a more humane spell. AlthoughI must admit. Avada Kedavra sounds AWFULLY humane, in terms of the actual death aspect of it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by needtodance View Post

    Definately not a kids book though. It boggled my mind going to the book store and seeing people there with their 5-7 year olds dressed up waiting.
    I felt the same way! My husband said that its fun for kids because its like another Halloween. I don't think its "too dark" for kids though, I don't think they have the life experience to understand why its so very very dark. I just think the book is too old for children that young, the themes are too adult for them to grasp.

    As to what I got out of the book...I feel relieved. Its over, the ending was satisfying. There was actually less death than I expected, she said "bloodbath" and I was a wee bit afraid to read this. If Molly and Arthur had died....I just don't want to think about it! I still cried randomly throughout the whole thing. Poor Dobby, poor Fred and George. OMG Kreacher! OMG Wormtail's hand! I've sworn for years that Snape loved Lily. *smug* Arrghh there's just so much!

    I loved that the epilogue was Harry seeing his children off on the Hogwarts Express. I thought that was a nice way of bringing it full circle (cried again here) to be reminded of the first time Harry got on the train. I thought it was beautiful! I know we'll find out more from Jo now that the books are finished, so I can't wait until the interviews start! ....Oh, and NEVILLE! Squuueee! *heart heart*

    (Wow, that was a bit of a ramble...sorry. Still brimming with excitement and happiness!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by needtodance View Post
    And yeah, the wanton use of Unforgivables shocked me a bit at first... i mean one minute its life in azkaban for those who use them, then harry uses it in anger at Bellatrix, and its the biggest SHOCK that he could "stoop so low"...

    THen POOF everyones randomly firing them, and its no longer good enough to do a more humane spell. AlthoughI must admit. Avada Kedavra sounds AWFULLY humane, in terms of the actual death aspect of it...
    Well, I could even be brought to accept a "time of war use of deadly force" argument, for when it is necessary. Like Hermione using the Imperius Curse at the bank - necessary, right? McGonnagall using it on the Carrow seems so superfluous. It was just to disarm them - she could have easily done that by just stooping. And the Cruciatus - it just doesn't DO anything - he isn't even trying to get information (for which there are, it has been established, better ways anyway); it was just an exercise in sadism. Which - I get the Carrow's are bad, but still - I would have liked some way of closing it. Or did I miss something?
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    Yeah exactly! ITs no longer taken seriously, even for being a "time of war".

    You'd think they WOULD have tried to only use it in "necessary" circumstances... And yeah, either stooping, using the disarm spell, or summoning spells could have gotten the Carrows away from their wands.

    I definately kept thinking of the Nietzsche quote about looking into the abyss too long and becoming the monster.

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    My favourite line was from Mrs Weasley to Bellatrix " Not my daughter you bitch" cracked me up laughing.

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    Oh, my favourite line was McGonagall in the midst of the battle at school where she turns around and snaps at Harry "and aren't you meant to be looking for something Mr. Potter?"

    I always loved her best. Maybe because I love Maggie Smith so much.
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    those were both GREAT! Yeah, maggie smith is awesome-I already can see EXACTLY how she'll say that in the movie(if that line makes it)

    Yeah, it'll be good to see Mrs. Weasley get mad at something other than her kids... THat just totally SHOCKED me because it was SO not her style. But good on her for being good in a fight, and in a kitchen.

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    I didn't think harry would sacrafice himself. And would never guessed that by doing so he protected all the people he loved. The elder wand being his already was pretty cool.

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    I knew my love for snape wouldn't lead me wrong. I loved the Albus Severus at the end.

    Why didn't Harry raise Teddy? Did he stay with Tonks' mom?

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    omg!!! it was amazing.

    I am mortifyingly glad that snape was good. I wa so disappointed at the last book..... how he seemed... so evil.

    I definatly agree that they're not kids books. i think they actually are meant to grow with kids. like.... 7/8 for the first book, and then you're about at adulthood when this one came out.

    omg.

    omg.

    wow.

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