View Poll Results: Should men be posting in SG regularly?

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  • NO! Men should never, ever post in here. Begone!

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  • Men should only post in here if they work in the industry.

    42 31.34%
  • Men can post occasionally as long as it's relevant.

    60 44.78%
  • Sure, they can post in here as much as they want, it doesn't bother me at all.

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Thread: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

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    Default Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    Allright, can we discuss this openly? I have my opinions, of course, and it's obviously something that's been bothering me, otherwise I wouldn't have created this. But I also do not want to ever assume that my opinion is universal or even shared by the majority.

    I'm aware that an argument could be made that this is more a matter for the Site Issues section, so I will defer to the mods IF it needs to be moved, but I really thought it would be best to discuss it in a place where we get the most traffic, and in the place where the issue is actually taking place.

    My feelings: It has become far too common for men to be casually posting to whatever they feel like responding to in here. The guidelines clearly state: "While the dancers of this site do enjoy reading a lot of what the customer's have to say, they do feel better when they have this section to be able to rant with other dancers or share stories with other dancers. If you are a male (or female) customer...please refrain from posting too much in the Stripping General section. You are free to post in Customer Conversation, The Lounge, Body Business, etc. But, please respect that a lot of the dancers would feel better hearing from other dancers in this section."

    I do NOT think it should be completely forbidden, as in Ladies Only, but I do think that it should be rare, and only when it's really relevant. Like, for example, a thread that is discussing a DJ issue, I think hearing from Djoser or Mr. Christopher is totally appropriate. Or other men who are actually involved in the industry.

    Even a member who is customer, if it's called for in the subject matter, is okay with me if it's RARE and, again, relevant. There are quite a few longstanding, respected male members that I wouldn't mind seeing an occasional post from. But that's the irony: Longstanding members who respect this site and this space in particular generally do NOT post in here, specifically because they DO respect this space.

    Okay, I've made my case, I'll stop blathering, as I honestly do want to hear what others have to say. If I'm being way too senstitive, you can tell me so. I'm just so tired of seeing threads where dancers are posting to vent or need support and commiserations from their PEERS, and they get customers (usually relatively new members) chiming in with their unsolicited $0.02. If I want customer/male feedback, which I often do, I post it in CC or the Lounge.

    Should it go without saying that I want to hear from the DANCERS on this matter?
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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    You know, I agree with you. It's really rather irritating when we talk about best thongs to wear and the guys are all chiming in. Seriously, how do you know? It's not making me angry, but it does annoy me. I think the men have their place and they do contribute to the boards in some areas . . . but not so much in here. (Obviously, this is except for the industry related guys. You know I love y'all.)

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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    I agree that there are some times when its ok for men to post in here, like you said...but many times when its not. I posted something about a good female customer in here...something that a male customers prespective really wasnt appropriate for...and got a particularly bitchy reply from a man...so I looked at his other 6 or so posts...and they were all the same...rude and condescending and directed at us. So it appeared to me that the only reason he was here was to be a jerk to us and thats not appropriate.


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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    Men can post occasionally as long as it's relevant.

    IMPORTANT INFORMATION (especially for any male members)
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54364

    It's posted as a sticky which means that it is at the top of all the posts in this forum. If a male member has missed this very important post ... his own fault for doing so.

    I bring everyone's attention to the part...
    If you are a male (or female) customer...please refrain from posting too much in the Stripping General section. You are free to post in Customer Conversation, The Lounge, Body Business, etc. But, please respect that a lot of the dancers would feel better hearing from other dancers in this section.


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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    You know men are gonna come in here and vote hell yeah on this one.
    Anyway....not to be a complete bitch, but personally, I'm not interested in any guy's opinion or advice about my job unless he is an industry associate and is actually putting up with the same type of BS I am at work...otherwise, please take a hike! It's the same pattern anyway, from what I've observed. He ends up pissing everybody off on here and then either gets booted out of this section or completely banned from SW all together. Unless they're in this business, they'll never completely get it.



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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    ^ Yeah, I realized AFTER the fact that I should have chosen the "Show Who Has Voted" option on the poll. I'm sorry! If there's any way to change that, mods, that'd be fabulous.
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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    Guys in the industry only.

    I think if we vote that posting is ok as long it's relevant, it leaves the door wide open for men to post about whatever they want, cause of course they think it's relevant.

    There is a customer section and a blue side. I don't see the need for guys to post here unless they are djs, male dancers, etc.

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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    Unless you are going to restrict us fellows from being able to read the posts in the forum, how is it any different from posting in the Ladies Only section? And if you don't want our responses or observations at all, then why not post there?

    Also, if you want a partially restricted forum, would it be that difficult to create an additional one? (keeping in mind that the club review section should be simple to fix, too, but that's a digression for another time)

    Isn't part of the reason for having moderators here to have someone responsible to edit the content and limit irrelevant digressions and offensive material?

    So far, it seems to me that the participants have been able to follow a balanced approach well enough.
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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    Quote Originally Posted by carolina6 View Post
    Guys in the industry only.

    There is a customer section and a blue side. I don't see the need for guys to post here unless they are djs, male dancers, etc.

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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    Men should stay out of Stripping General PERIOD. I don't care if they're in the industry. There's other sections for that. This is STRIPPING General. No males (except male DANCERS) have any relevant or useful info. I say they get pointed for posting just like in LO.

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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    I'm fine with guys in the industry posting here, but the average idiot can stay out as far as I'm concerned. Frankly, I deal with enough of them at work. I'd love to be free of them here. Funny how they really think their input is wanted and/or needed.
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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    Quote Originally Posted by maximvsv View Post
    Unless you are going to restrict us fellows from being able to read the posts in the forum, how is it any different from posting in the Ladies Only section? And if you don't want our responses or observations at all, then why not post there?

    Also, if you want a partially restricted forum, would it be that difficult to create an additional one? (keeping in mind that the club review section should be simple to fix, too, but that's a digression for another time)

    Isn't part of the reason for having moderators here to have someone responsible to edit the content and limit irrelevant digressions and offensive material?

    So far, it seems to me that the participants have been able to follow a balanced approach well enough.
    Excuse me, but I do believe the OP was quite clear that she only wanted DANCER'S perspective in this post. Very last sentence of her first post.

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    ^See what I'm talking about???



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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    What about former dancers looking to get back into the industry? Sorry if you didn't want me posting here!

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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    ^^Thats fine. Its people who don't belong in SG like most customers POV's.
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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    If you haven't worked in my industry and don't plan to work in my industry, stay out of here, for the love of god. It's not a lot to ask. I don't care how long you've sat sipping a beer and taking up space in the the SC--you DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

    Incidentally, I wonder how many PLs are gonna skew the poll results.

    I am hardcore in the "industry-only" camp (ex and current). While cocktail waitresses, bartenders, DJs, managers, etc have not walked in our stilettos, they are there with us every night, playing the same game, dealing with and developing intution about the exact same customers and situations. As far as I'm concerned, their input is valuable. They see a side of things that we don't and vice versa.

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    Oh good! Because this is really helping me get back into the game. Things have changed so much since I danced!

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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    I think the statement at the top of the SG forum sums it up pretty well, and for the most part, long-time members respect it. Every once in a while some FNGs come in and threads like this get posted:

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37967
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45404

    It's probably more effective to report the posts of offenders so mods can deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dottie Rebel View Post
    Incidentally, I wonder how many PLs are gonna skew the poll results.
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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    I just went though many of my posts. Not too many in SG...sorry about the ones that were there...this will be my last post in SG.

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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward View Post
    I think the statement at the top of the SG forum sums it up pretty well, and for the most part, long-time members respect it. Every once in a while some FNGs come in and threads like this get posted:

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37967
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45404

    It's probably more effective to report the posts of offenders so mods can deal with it.

    Both of those threads were great reading! I was going to quote one person, and then another, and then another and another . . . so I'm just going to recommend reading 'em period.

    I don't think anything needs to be ironclad in this section, just simply keep in mind that this isn't CustomerWeb (attr. Bridgette, thread #1 above).
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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    It's a tough one...to exclude them all, or even limit to industry-related men, well I've enjoyed reading intelligent, relevant, and cutely apologetic posts from our good men on here. But then get REAL skeeved out when something weird happens, like when (no offense) but someone's friend IRL was posting weird things in a thread, like a link to Mileia's profile, that was weird for a minute.

    I think we should just report bad posts...cause there are some valuable things the dudes have to say sometimes, even newbie-ish guys, and plus we have our own exclusive forum already, which is totally great.

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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    It's not just males who have no business posting in here. It's also females who aren't dancers, and never have been. What do they have to offer in SG?

    So I think the guidelines should be rephrased to say Only current or retired dancers should post in SG, and males or females with no SC experience should refrain from posting.

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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    Males in SG doesn't bother me at all. Rude people bother me, trolls bother me, but not males as a generalization and not nondancers as a generalization.
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    Default Re: Let's have it out: Males posting in Stripping General

    At this point I am way too tired from work to read the whole thread, but my opinion has never changed, no matter how many times this has been discussed. I LIKE hearing from the men. Hearing their on-topic opinions helps me better myself job-wise. And it isn't like they won't at least read it, even if they don't/can't post.... so it isn't like anything is getting ruined for them anyways.


    But hey, that's just me. Whatever. I just shrug it off and wander. I can really only handle reading so many "OMG GO AWAY YOU HAVE A PENIS" posts anymore. But I ain't bitchin at no one about it. Everyone has their own opinion on how this all goes.
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