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    What are "toxins" and why do we need to cleanse our bodies of them? Are they bacteria? Chemicals? The physical manifestations of bad karma?

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    A song.

    But no, really, it's a lot of crap created by the 'Natural Cures' book following idiots. I read that book and it was a waste of good ass-wiping paper... I mean... P:.... I just rightly didn't like it.

    Now some chemicals YES are bad for you, but that touting of 'decleansing our body by only sleeping nights after 7pm and staring into the sun' mantra was just... insane.

    My mother in law is doing it right now. She even got a water filter for her rain water bathtub because of 'the chemicals killing her liver'. She keeps saying she's dying, which is why she can't eat red meat, because of the chemicals (ignore the fact I only buy organic grain-fed red meat.. whatever) and why everyone should go out to the store FOR HER and pick her up some no-carb wheat bread (wtf?)... so the excuses are probably just getting to me, so it's probably bothering me.

    I know aussiepunkshocker is a good resource for this stuff, and she probably knows what I mean by the 'insane motherfreeking health nuts like Mr. Natural Cures' versus the real chemicals in foods that DO need to be washed out, like pesticides... but yes... *gag me*


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    ^Er..?

    Well, toxins are "things that shouldn't be in your body and do bad stuff", basically. Common examples are mercury and lead.

    We ingest them accidentally or on purpose, through food, pollution etc. Every toxic element has a different effect and a million different theories on ridding the body of them, some legit, some not. It's up to you to do the appropriate research (and not just knee-jerk against everything because you read something you didn't like...)

    Vitamin A in large quanities can cause toxicity. So toxins aren't the only source of toxicity, unless you go by a fluid definition of toxins, which is also OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarlett_vancouver View Post
    ^Er..?
    http://www.naturalcures.com/

    I assumed she got the toxicity idea from people who preach this scam artist's (tried by a jury! not a lie!) stuff.

    Sorry if she wasn't. :x


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra View Post

    go out to the store FOR HER and pick her up some no-carb wheat bread (wtf?)...
    Wow, talk about "natural." Ha.

    Anyway, I've mostly heard the toxic thing from crazy sounding hippy types, who aren't even coming from a scientific perspective.

    But I've started to hear about it from people who usually know what they're talking about, and I'm willing to open my mind enough here to actually try to learn about it a little bit. I'm usually pretty quick to hate on this kind of thing. The way some people talk about toxins it sounds like they're like they're actually evil aliens sent to break down human society, from inside the human body... dun dun dun. Anyway, sometimes I'm too cynical and I wanted to hear some people out about it.

    But yeah, health quacks
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    The best way I've found to really detox my body is through Bikram yoga..It detoxifies the body through sweat, since skin is our largest organ, the sweat helps push waste out.
    Toxins can be in our environment, the food we eat and the people we're around. ie, "Toxic Relationships"..I never believed in that type of hype until, I got cancer and a heap of other unexplainable illnesses.

    I wanted to add even tampons and pads are toxic to our bodies. Tampons are made of rayon ( a syntheic fiber ) which can irritate our bodies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra View Post
    A song.
    hahahahaa yay, i wasn't the only one who saw the thread title and thought "hmm, system of a down!"

    "toxins" bog down your body's proper functioning... but they are also overly exaggerated to make $$$ for certain 'cleansing,' 'green,' and 'antioxidant' products. Some work, many do not. Good fear tactic, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farrah_Holiday View Post
    The best way I've found to really detox my body is through Bikram yoga..It detoxifies the body through sweat, since skin is our largest organ, the sweat helps push waste out.
    Toxins can be in our environment, the food we eat and the people we're around. ie, "Toxic Relationships"..I never believed in that type of hype until, I got cancer and a heap of other unexplainable illnesses.

    I wanted to add even tampons and pads are toxic to our bodies. Tampons are made of rayon ( a syntheic fiber ) which can irritate our bodies.
    Yeah, but what exactly are these toxins (organism? chemical?) and how do they do what they do to our bodies? What exactly is bad about them? Why are they, well, toxic?

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    ^ Stop being a skeptic and look into the sun to cure your cancer now!!

    (yes one of the books I read said that)


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    Quote Originally Posted by scarlett_vancouver View Post
    ^Er..?

    Well, toxins are "things that shouldn't be in your body and do bad stuff", basically. Common examples are mercury and lead.

    We ingest them accidentally or on purpose, through food, pollution etc. Every toxic element has a different effect and a million different theories on ridding the body of them, some legit, some not. It's up to you to do the appropriate research (and not just knee-jerk against everything because you read something you didn't like...)

    Vitamin A in large quanities can cause toxicity. So toxins aren't the only source of toxicity, unless you go by a fluid definition of toxins, which is also OK.
    Thanks for giving me specific examples. I keep finding that discussion of toxins and how to remove them tends to be in really broad, general terms.

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    I'm really gald you asked that question Lily, because I had no idea either. I went to get a massage once and they told me to go into the steam room or suana before hand to remove the toxins. (?)

    I like steam rooms anyway, so no biggie, but I had always wondered, what toxins are in there? How'd they get in there? What will they do? I know smoking and drinking aren't great for the bod, and I'm sure that's easily considered toxins, but what about people who don't smoke and drink? They still have toxins?

    Anyway, thanks for the info girls!




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    Quote Originally Posted by ExoticEngineer View Post
    I'm really gald you asked that question Lily, because I had no idea either. I went to get a massage once and they told me to go into the steam room or suana before hand to remove the toxins. (?)!
    They are idiots. Your body will have toxins no matter how much you sweat. spa/hippy/new age people rarely use science to back up their theories about these things.

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    Allow me to clarify.

    Some toxins are real - lead, mercury, free radicals, etc.

    Some toxins are not real - mysterious bad things that have no name


    It is important to invest time and money avoiding and cleansing yourself of real toxins and not wasting time and money on fake toxins. Luckily, real toxins can be avoided and cleansed simply by following a reasonable diet full of fruits and vegetables.

    Vitamins, minerals, anti-oxidants, and fibre all help fight these toxins and therefore prevent diseases. You don't need special pills or magic drugs. Nature has given us everything we need to protect ourselves - fruits and vegetables.

    It's also important, if you can, to avoid excessive calories and processed foods. A study was shown in animals that by reducing the amount of food you feed them, the longer they live. This change in lifespan is attributed to the build up of metabolic free-radicals in the body but of course hasn't been proven yet.

    The last thing I want to say is that organic foods in the United States may not actually be organic as we think. The FDA has a lot of loop holes that food companies jump through which leads to a lot of false advertising. So the take home message is this - eat fresh foods, eat plenty of fruits and vegetables, and don't waste your money on these toxin scams!

    Hope this helped. Cheers.

    p.s. sweating don't eliminate toxins from the body, but good workous are essential for living a healthy life and make you feel better in return.
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    I'm not sure about the rest, but concerning massages I thought the "toxins" in question that you need to drink a lot of water and sweat out was the buildup of lactic acid in your muscles that just got released.

    Not sure where I got that from, that's just what I've heard.

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    Toxicity doesn't just refer to the certain chemicals/elements that get in your body that shouldn't be there- but also the overall environment of your body created by the foods you eat. A highly acidic body is "toxic".

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilyLove View Post
    Yeah, but what exactly are these toxins (organism? chemical?) and how do they do what they do to our bodies? What exactly is bad about them? Why are they, well, toxic?

    Dr.Wulf gave a great explanation..I just disagree with the sweating part, skin is our largest organ and if you can remove through skin that saves your kidneys,liver and other organs from having to work so hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinatalie View Post
    I'm not sure about the rest, but concerning massages I thought the "toxins" in question that you need to drink a lot of water and sweat out was the buildup of lactic acid in your muscles that just got released.

    Not sure where I got that from, that's just what I've heard.
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    We have organs for detox. The best thing you can do is eat as healthy as you can and drink lots of water. You don't have to go on a complicated, 60 day grapefruit starvation plan-sorry "cleanse"-in order rid your body of toxins.

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    Anyone heard of the little patch thing you put on your feet or back or chest over night and you pull it off in the morning and its pulled toxins out of your body? The girls in the changing room were talking about these patch thingies they put on their feet and it pulled a bunch of gunk out... another girl said she had a bad chest cold and she put it on her chest over night and woke up in the morning and it was like black from the shit it pulled out of her body and she felt a million times better...

    Im thinking about trying one just because of the fact im a smoker n what not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callyish View Post
    Anyone heard of the little patch thing you put on your feet or back or chest over night and you pull it off in the morning and its pulled toxins out of your body? The girls in the changing room were talking about these patch thingies they put on their feet and it pulled a bunch of gunk out... another girl said she had a bad chest cold and she put it on her chest over night and woke up in the morning and it was like black from the shit it pulled out of her body and she felt a million times better...

    Im thinking about trying one just because of the fact im a smoker n what not...
    That's snake oil. If those girls feel like they are getting benefits from a patch that sucks stuff out of their feet, then great, but it is most definitely a placebo effect.

    You should save your $ and quit smoking, that would be the best way to rid yourself of some horrid toxins. I know, it's easier said than done, but I hate seeing beautiful girls smoke. It's such an awful thing to do to your body, but I'm not yer mom so I'll stop lecturing you now.
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    Ahaha i've tried to quit smoking a few times... Its so damn hard

    I went two months once... then I caved and started again... at least I dont smoke a whole lot lol... I smoke like 3 packs a week at the most.. yea yea I know its still the same lol.

    I quit smoking weed though!! Thats a start right? LoL and I quit drinking... next step is smoking.. bleh..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callyish View Post
    Ahaha i've tried to quit smoking a few times... Its so damn hard

    I went two months once... then I caved and started again... at least I dont smoke a whole lot lol... I smoke like 3 packs a week at the most.. yea yea I know its still the same lol.

    I quit smoking weed though!! Thats a start right? LoL and I quit drinking... next step is smoking.. bleh..
    Hi there. I've helped dozens of people quit smoking and am very happy to help you too. But I only help those who are very serious about quitting, so let me know if you are interested. Stopping cannabis is a great start! And keep in mind it takes the average smoker 14 attempts to break the habit, so you're well on your way.

    The above posters are right, the best way to rid your body of these toxins is to stop smoking all together. Large doses of vitamin C every day can somewhat downplay the damage, but ultimately no patches, drinks, chelators, or magic potions can erase the damage of smoke.

    All the best. Hope to hear from you.
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