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    *THIS IS A RANT*

    I ahte hate hate firday nights, I hate my managers and I hate the summer season! Oh god I am so fed up right now! I amlost posted this last night, but wanted to wait so I could cool off, but I'm still SO pissed!

    Thurs night, I watched as a girl (call her girl A) gave a hand job to a customer in our VIP. My customer watched as well. Then he DEMANDED that he get the same treatment. When he found out he wasn't getting it he got physical with me.

    Phase to the dressing room:

    I'm venting to my best friend about what had happened, about the girl giving the hand job and how pissed off I am, next thing I know a girl walks up to me and says "Yep, I'm sick of her slutty ass too! It's time for her to go!" Mind you I never said who it was giving the hand job....

    Friday night (which I already can't stand) as soon as I walk in the door the manager calls me in his office, then the other manager comes in. I sit down and he tells me I have to quit spreading rumors about the girls in the club. He says one of the customers asked a girl to give him a dance like that one stripper gives, she got all pissed off and her feelings hurt and ran to management. Then she told management that I told the guy that this other stripper would give him a hand job....but...wait for it...wait for it...she told him ANOTHER stripper's name! (girl B). How everything got screwed aroudn, I still don't know, but I do know that when I got to work last night, they were pissed off at me and the two nasty dancers in the club were angels!

    So as I'm sitting there getting my ass chewed out, the other manger looks at me and says this....

    "Listen, right now the market is calling for dirty dances, we're following market demand and competing with some places who offer way more than we do. The VIP situation isn't going to change, and that's coming from higher up than me. So if you have a problem with that, you know what to do. Obviously we wont be allowing blowjobs in the VIP, some things should be taken care of in the Champagne room."

    So, I explain nicely, I didn't say a work to anyone about girl B, that I was venting about girl A, and girl B had nothing to do with this, and in fact this entire conversation is very very stupid and yes I understand, extra's are going to be happening here and no one is going to change it, okay, yessir, okay sir uh huh, can I go now? (FUMING INSIDE AT THIS POINT)

    So I resolve to make it through the night, get it over with and go home, figure out what to do then... NOooooooooo! Girl B gets in my face, I eplain to her, that obviously what I told my friend had nothing to with her since she wasn't even in the room at the time. Why would someone assume I was talking baotu her? Well Gee...gosh, I don't know, that might be something you need to reflect upon later on. K, night night now!

    I watched those two pull custoner after customer into the VIP last night, while I stood there with my thumbs up my ass. And yes, I know, I don't want to be competing with that type of dance anyway, but OMFG, they're being given the green light to dance as nasty as they want! How in the world am I supposed to work around that!?

    Icing on the cake, another friend of mine was jumped in the parking lot of the club, they stole her bag and her money.

    Girls...I used to love this club, really did. But as of now, I'm not sure I'd recommend anyone working here.




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    whaaaaaaaaaaat?! that is f'ing ridiculous. i mean, for the managers to flat out say "we have to let our girls be dirty" is totally different than maybe just looking the other way(not that that's ok, but you get my point.) i probably wouldnt have lasted the night if i were you. damn.

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    That is just pure infuriating insanity. I'd be ripshit right now if I were you, too. Damn.


    "Listen, right now the market is calling for dirty dances, we're following market demand and competing with some places who offer way more than we do. The VIP situation isn't going to change, and that's coming from higher up than me. So if you have a problem with that, you know what to do. Obviously we wont be allowing blowjobs in the VIP, some things should be taken care of in the Champagne room."
    Check. You know what to do. Hand jobs in VIP, blowjobs in Champagne.

    So. Another one bites the dust. Wonder how many formerly great clubs are following this very pattern? Is that a rhetorical question?
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    OMG! I would be so pissed too...lame ass DRAMA!

    I would definitely start working harder at changing clubs. Damn, I would be pissed enough to call upper management about what the idiot manager says about HJ's and BJ's in the CR room.

    If you have to continue working there in the meantime, just ignore it as much as you can, stay positive and make your money (easier said than done). Drama usually blows over quick and soon they'll be on to the next thing.

    I'm sorry Hon, summer sucks and I can't wait for it to get better too.

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    I'm so messed up right now about this. I have to work tonight too. I had some unexpected expenses last month and I'm low on money.... so I'll have to drag my ass in there tonight, but I am dreading it!

    I understand looking the other way now and then, and girls doing extra's discreetly. It happens, in every single cub it happens. But I have never been told before "we're going to allow this because it's what the market is calling for. That's what the VIP and CR are for." Argh!

    And here's my other problem...so they're going to allow, even promote this...so when guy gets physical with me, I have no grounds for having him removed or anything?! I either take it or walk away and he gets to stay and play?? How in the world is this supposed to work? Oh geez, I am all worked up over this...so don't want to go in there tonight. Blue Jean and some of you other girls I was talking to about this club...I wouldn't suggest working nights there right now. I don't know how days and swing are, but this is out of control.




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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerousdiva View Post
    OMG! I would be so pissed too...lame ass DRAMA!

    I would definitely start working harder at changing clubs. Damn, I would be pissed enough to call upper management about what the idiot manager says about HJ's and BJ's in the CR room.

    If you have to continue working there in the meantime, just ignore it as much as you can, stay positive and make your money (easier said than done). Drama usually blows over quick and soon they'll be on to the next thing.

    I'm sorry Hon, summer sucks and I can't wait for it to get better too.
    It was explained to me "this isn't coming from us either, it's coming from above us." Upper management apparently has decided this is the way it's going to be.

    But yes, like you said, ignore it and work and make my money. Keep working my ass off at the gym and get into CCP or something.

    Crap, nights like that make me wish I was good at being a secretary!




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    ^^^^I'm not so sure ignoring it is a good idea because assumiing you aren't sexually assaulted, you still run a greater risk of arrest once the new policy gets around.
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    ^^ K, get this B.S. One of hte bouncers there is actually in agreement with me on all of this crap (he's the one who helped out that girl who was violated I wrote about) and he told me that when he went to the managers about all the crap that was going on, he was told "No, we're not calling the cops, we haven't had any reason to and it's better that way." They explained to him they don't want to bring attention to the club, that they've managed to stay below radar for this long, so that's how it will stay.


    Crap, I'm actually crying over this BS right now. I really don't want to go there tonight. or ever for that matter. Fuck fuck fuck! And it's so retarded, I feel backed into a corner. I've tried other clubs before I went to this one... It was sort of my last resort. But it looks like it's time to shop around again. blah...I hate this crap.




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    you should just go in tonight with a 'fuck you' attitude and then start club shopping on monday. i know how you feel about it being a last resort after all the bs i went through at my last club, i didnt know what to do. i found another one, not as much money plus more contact but its better than nothing i guess. you'll figure it out...

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    Wow good to see Phoenix is turning into Toronto.... im so sorry its going this way EE.... this is the reason I don't dance in Toronto anymore. The clubs are ENCOURAGING girls to dance dirty... yea there are even some clubs that will fire you if you don't give hand jobs at the minimum There are girls having full out sex in the couch rooms for $20 a song... some girls wont even use condoms.... gotta love how the industry is going

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExoticEngineer View Post
    ^^ K, get this B.S. One of hte bouncers there is actually in agreement with me on all of this crap (he's the one who helped out that girl who was violated I wrote about)

    EE, that's RIGHT! I forgot about the girl that you helped recently! IIRC, the manager seemed concerned and even - dare I say it - caring. How can this be the same club? Please tell me that this SAME manager, who saw firsthand the emotional impact of this girl getting sexually assaulted, is not now backing this policy!!!
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    it's not a strip club anymore, it's a brothel.

    if you want to work in a brother, go ahead. if you don't, you should quit.

    i'm so sorry all of that happened to you. uuhhggg

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    that is pretty awful...management should throw out any disrespectful customers regardless of what services they are buying from whatever girls.

    i stayed far too long at a club where extras were rampant, but where management threw out rude customers for all dancers, whether they did extras or not. the rule was 'if he violates the girl's limits, no matter what they are, or doesn't pay her, he goes'. so airdancers had the same expectation of protection as extras girls. i was far from the only clean dancer who kept coming back to work at this club for that reason.

    so in the instance of your club, management is just being straight out jerks.

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    Time to quit. Penny's right, it's not a strip club anymore, it's a brothel. You're going to wind up in trouble too if you stay there, whether you get sexually assaulted or picked up in a raid or whatever else. It is way too damn dangerous to work in an illegal brothel and you're too pretty and intelligent for that.

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    Sounds like there are fewer and fewer clubs right now that are worth it for a true lady to work at. I'm about fed up with this industry. The majority of strip clubs are fronts for illegal activities like drugs and prostitution. It all comes down to managment. If management and owners refuse to put up with it, it will still happen in even a good club, but in a good club, they will nip it in the bud IMMEDIATELY and make a point of it. I was spoiled rotten in my last club with good management who wouldn't put up with drug use, drug sale, or any extras of any kind (even grinding, considered an extra in my no-contact club). When someone was fired, they'd be blacklisted in the manager's log, and if not the girl, then the specific activity someone got fired for was called out in the evening meeting after each shift as an example to all others.

    Now that I am on a club search, I am realizing how spoiled I was and how sickening the majority of this business is. I am aghast. How do you ladies, and I mean LADIES put up with extras going on right next to you, and still keep a straight head and do what you do and do it right? I'd go crazy. I'd be beyond pissed and fucking disappointed, just like the OP. Can all of us fine SW ladies band together and make our own strip club? Please?
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    Yep, it's time for me to go. The other small clubs in this area are jsut as bad I found out today from calling around to girls I know, so I've developed a plan.

    Going to bust my ass in the gym for one more month, stick it out in this place for one more month, then head over to CCP, where I'm sure extras go on as well, but as least managers there don't encourage the girls to do them!

    I can stick it out for a month, it's not that long...




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    i cannot beleive your managers basically told you to suck dick.

    that infuriated me when i read that.

    i would call myself a "dirty dancer", but i'm not whipping dicks out left and right! there is a way to do a "clean" dirty dance. some girls need to figure that out.

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    ^ and by that i meant the cocksuckers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corgan View Post
    ^ and by that i meant the cocksuckers.
    Thank you, this cracked me up!


    I agree about the clean dirty dance. I am not a "clean dancer", I give a helluva dance....but it seems to me there is a line between giving a clean-dirty dance, and taking out someone's unit and jerking him off. Or letting a guy eat you out, letting him finger you...etc....

    it's just so frustrating. Thank you girls for letting me vent and all of your advice. I'm done pissing about it now....

    I have to go get ready for work.




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    That's fucking horrible that the managers would actually ADMIT that they have to allow sex in the club to compete. Most clubs that allow shit to go on would not outright condone it verbally.

    I used to work for the guy who owns the Christie's chain and who owned others in various names in Memphis. All kinds of shit went on in those clubs besides the fact that he's a bigot.

    Eventually, sooner but not later, if dancers are not willing to at LEAST give handjobs in the club, they won't be able to make any money, and many girls will be forced to quit.

    I'd bet contact is gradually moving up in Christie's clubs as well.

    That is why I feel business savvy dancers should buy up a lot of clubs and eventually make this a majority woman owned and operated industry. These men who own these clubs and manage them are just in the business to get the inside hookup on pussy. They don't want to run a professionally operated business.

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    Holy shit, that's terrible!

    So...what happens if you tip off vice? Don't jump on me, I don't know how that all works, but...accountability, you know. If it's the only thing that might scare local managers into staying clean...

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    ^^^^Yes...I'm thinking a tip off is in order.

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    Those of us who don't give a "clean" dance by the laws standards would suffer just as much as those girls who are performing handjobs etc. if vice were "tipped off".

    But I can't even think what else would get these places to change. If my club says they are allowing it to compete with this other club, and this club allows it to compete with that other club...where does it stop?

    Blah.

    It hurts my brain.

    Time to go pretend I don't see and don't care. Thanks girls.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Callyish View Post
    sex in the couch rooms for $20 a song... some girls wont even use condoms.... (
    And here I thought this was unique to hookers in Hunt's Point, BX

    haha saw my "documentary" last night.

    Oh wow.

    "This order is coming from above me" I'm thinking "God?" athiest here, but funny thoughts abound...

    "Some things are best left for champagne room" Sounds like he could go out for a new cast member on Reno 911! based on that whole conversation.

    Yea I think somehow, someway, however you do this, some "law enforcement agency" should get involved...

    I'm so sorry to hear about this horribly depressing story. Best of luck to you.

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    The last thing anyone would want to do is tip off the cops. That will just bring heat on all the clubs and in the end will hurt strippers more than it would help.

    The police are not our friends!

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