^^ awwww..there are quite a few homeless in KW with dogs too. And they are very well taken care of...better then quite a few "normal" peoples pets that I've seen.
^^ awwww..there are quite a few homeless in KW with dogs too. And they are very well taken care of...better then quite a few "normal" peoples pets that I've seen.





I don't want to threadjack, but it's sort of relevant...this just reminded me of something. While we don't have problems at the local Wal-Mart with homeless people or anything like that, but we've got something SO much worse!
I hate...hate...HATE...all these little groups selling crap or asking for money right outside the damn doors! They (and call me a meanie, but I'm including the kids, too) don't give me a choice to walk up and see what they're selling/asking money for. They BLOCK my way in/out (yeah...both times) and make me look at whatever they want me to. The worst was this missionary group...I had one (and this is literally) block me and another block Mox on our way out the door...now what the hell is up with that?
I've had some kind of scary encounters with some not so cool homeless people (no offense to anyone that has been homeless or anything), but those kind of groups are WAY worse than any homeless person I've ever come across...EVER.![]()




I saw this on the newswhen I was in Quebec the last few days....
Granted its the minority, but, still something to think about...
This is going to sound harsh....
I ignore them. There is no reason to stand on a corner and beg for handouts. There are shelters to stay in, governtment assistance....espicially all the "wounded vets" they can get help.
Plus anyone can get a job at Mcdonalds or one of the many fast food places.
There are programs that help you get clothes for work, and places you can stay. There are programs that help you look for work.
I gave 1 homeless person something before. There was a guy holding a sign that said he had a seizure disorder and was waitign for his SSI to start. I know getting SSI is a long process. I also know a seizure disorder would prevent yuo from working. I thought putting all that on a sign would be a bit of a stretch for a lie. My boy and I were eating at outback steakhouse and I ordered an extra filet to give to the guy.
I shoudl add that I've been homeless before. Not to the point of street sleepig...but I was a couch surfer and I slept in my car a few times...
Before I was a stripper, I just couldn't make enough money to pay for all my bilsl plus I was in college. I tried to stay in school....in the end I had to drop out because it was to hard to try to get to school when I was sleeping in so many different places....
But I took advantage of all the programs there are to help people. Unfortunatly...there isn't much for a young, able bodied 20something.
I also wonder....why all the homeles speopel I see have freshly shaven faces..where are they shaving it at if they live under a bridge?
Their clothes may be dirty, but theeir shoes are clean...
Odd.....
No..I think holding a sign is a cop out. There are ways to find help, if you look hard enough.
Actually..there are even corners peopel stand on here, waitign to be picked up for work. ANyone can goo to these corners and pick a person up and have them help you with yard work, r whatever. I never see the homeless standign there waiting to work....
They just stand and hold a sign looking for free handouts.





Many shelters are NOT safe places to stay... especially for teens and women. Not all areas have proper assistance. And I'd love to see a McD's hire someone who really has the homeless look... and smell... going on. Not to mention the homeless folks who don't have ID, an address, etc... what exactly are they going to put on an application?
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so true
without address,phone,id and ss card people cant get hired.Mickey D's will only give you a shirt and hat you have to buy the rest of the uniform(black pants black shoes) oh and mickey d's does not pay enough to get your ass off the street either.its basically enough for food and maybe bus fare.
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Yes, because there is a HUGE problem with homeless people stabbing people in Toronto. I mean - I disapprove of stabbing, I really do. But I don't think it says anything about the greater state of pandhandlers. And there is no need to laws against pandhandling because of this - I mean, we already have laws against stabbing people that can deal with this behaviour quite effectively. Sorry, this story has been driving me nuts. The vast majority of "professional panhandlers" are homeless people. The whole thing with "scam artists" is blown way, way, out of proportion. The fact that someone MAY be lying about being a vet doesn't mean that he is not homeless.
I give them change if I have it, and I feel like giving it. If I don't I say "Sorry man" It works pretty well.
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One night my husband and I were out on a walk through Miami. This really nice clean white car comes slowly and stops on the side of the curb. I'm freaking out thinking he's going to attack us or something. My husband goes over to talk to him. I stand there listening in from afar.
I hear the guy in the very nice car tell my husband this huge story about how he needs to get out of Miami and his wife and kids are crying at home. Of course he asks for money. My husband turns to me and asks for the quarter I got back from the lady at Walgreens that day. He hands it to him, blahblahblah, the guy ends up leaving.
I yelled at my husband the rest of the way home. I told him, "if he REALLY was thatttt desperate to leave, he could have SOLD that damn nice car of his." I also told him, "what if you were in that situation? what would you do? if you had to leave? if you had family crying at home? would you leave them at home? you'd probably figure something out, wouldn't you? you wouldn't waste your night trying to get money from random strangers on the street late at night, right?" When we were hella desperate for money, we sold majority of our stuff.
One guy down in Key West where I used to live, stood out in front of Home Depot one day and his sign said something like, "Looking for work, please, I'm a hard worker, please." I wish I owned a construction company or something because I would have given him a job after talking to him. I never saw him after that so hopefully someone helped him.
Oh, this other guy in Miami always spent time at one of the busy intersections with his nasty old cup trying to save up change that random people would give to him. He came over to us one time we walked by. My husband stroke up a conversation with the man once he found out the guy was once in the military. My husband said he had some form of mental illness or even more because one of his uncles had an illness and he acted the same way so we tried helping that guy. One time we brought him a half of my husband's sub from Subway. The man got down on his knees the best he could and thanked us repeatedly.
Oh yeah, I've seen TONS of homeless people (or at least they look homeless) standing out on the corners holding signs for places like Quizno's to try to draw in more business. I hope they gave them a free sandwich for the day or something for that. Oh, the McD's in Miami we always went to allowed a few of the nicer homeless people to relax inside when it was hot outside as long as they were pleasant. Taco Bell allowed them to refill their cups with water as long as they didn't cause any trouble too.




i'll buy them food if we happen to be near a fast food place. Other than that if i have small bills easily accessible i'll give them some cash, but i'd rather not dig through my purse cause i'd just be scared of being set up to be mugged. As for them really being homeless or professional panhandlers, that's on them not on me. It's my choice whether to give them money or not but it is not up to me to question their motives, reasons, history, etc. Whether they use the money for food or drugs or they are secretly well off is irrelevant to me.
If they are obviously handicapped and it appears because of it that they are incapable of working, I'll give some pocket change or a buck or two.
If they are able-bodied, I ignore them.
Your right about the shelters. A lot of them aren't safe.
But a homelsss person doesn't have to apply for a job with the homeless smell. They could go into any gas station bathroom and freshen up. Wash their hard and body in the sink with the hand soap..it's not ideal, but then they wouldn't smell. They could buy a set of disposable razors at walmart for 99 cents, which could be found on the ground on the walk to the store. They could go into salons and say, " I'm homeless and trying to get a job, is there any way I could get my hair trimmed, I will sweep the floor the rest of the day for repayment" It may or may not work..but I bet if you asked enough, you could find some salon to do it.
Addresses.
Make one up if nesessary. Go and get an Id with the madeup address. I'm sure everyone had an address at one point in their lives, use that. Or just make one up. Use the homeless shelters address, even if you don't stay there.
Or get a job under the table where ID isn't needed.
Hell...I;ve seen people offer to wash yrou windows at the gas station. They use the water and paper towels at the station and offer to clean yrou windows fr $5.....I imagien they don't last long ebfore they are kicked off the property, btu it's somethign. A few bucks in their pockets.
Just do somethign proactive. SOmehtin gto try to better your life. Anything.
Standing on the corner holding a sign is a cop out.
If I saw a homeless person just makign any attempt to do somehting, I woudl be more than happy to help them in any wa I possibly could.



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Addresses.
Make one up if nesessary. Go and get an Id with the madeup address. I'm sure everyone had an address at one point in their lives, use that. Or just make one up. Use the homeless shelters address, even if you don't stay there.
you cant make up an address to get an id.you have to show a power or cable bill with your name on it.you cant even get money from the blood bank unless you have 2 proofs of a REAL address.
your not my favorite person right now
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^ yah my feelings are actually super hurt.
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All I'm saying is be proactive.
Try to make changes. Try to help yourself. It just really bugs me when people complain that they can't get ahead in life when they won't even try. They say noone will help them but they don't try to help themselves. I am more than happy and willing to help anyone who is trying to help themselves.
And Tart...I do sincerly apologize if your feelings are hurt.





I usually end up giving them a dollar, unless they ask for change then they get whatever change I have. I know some might just be using it for drugs or alcohol, but my opinion was shaped by an experience in college...
So I grew up in nice suburb with no homeless people. I get to freshman year at college, and there I am in Syracuse. Holy shithole Batman! Anyway, I had some McDonald's gift cetificates from a "going away" care package from work, and when I was approached by a panhandler asking for money, I said: "well I've got some McDonald's gift certificates" (we were right outside a McD's at the moment). He was giddy at the prospect of getting those!Then another homeless guy comes up begging for some too. I ended up splitting all of them between the two. Shoot, the poor guys are thrilled at the thought of a meal...how can you not help?
I felt really good about it too. I wondered how many people just keep walking, and I thought how easy just a little generosity is for someone of my means and what an effect it can have on another person. So I'm sure some of my dollars go to nefarious ends, but it's a small price to pay for the ones who just want it for a burger. Of all of my dollars that end up in a g-string, or buying some other crap I don't really need, I can afford a few now and then on the off-chance it might help someone simply down on their luck.
Another story (happened today actually). I'm walking to my parking garage after work and I pass near the bus stop. It's usually populated by some interesting characters. I hear "My man, hey my man" and keep walking. I just had a bad feeling about it. Then I hear some incoherrent grumbling, followed by "Bitch!" I'm glad I kept walking. So I understand the worry many people have about safety. The dollars come out most of the time, but not when I get that bad vibe.





I take it on a case by case basis...




I use discretion and give or not give accordingly.




There is a columnist in the SF chronicle who writes a yearly holiday column about the Untied Way.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...&sn=002&sc=881
I've done it a couple of times near Xmas. He's a good writer and it's a nice idea.
Lexi reminded me of another guy...
My friends and I were headed back to their hotel room in KW after having a party at my parent's house. We had leftover pizza with us because my parent's fridge was already slammed full of pizza. A block away from their hotel, we saw a homeless guy sleeping in the middle of the sidewalk. We left the box of pizza behind him for him to find once he woke up. I hope no one took it from him and he was able to enjoy it.
Oh, this really weird guy talked to me for like a freaking hour when I was hanging out at the beach once. He told me his entire life story all within a few minutes. I forget where he was from but he said he went through a horrible divorce, basically lost all his money from that except for a few bucks which he used to take the bus all the way down to KW. He did ask me for money but I told the truth and told him all I had on me was my phone. I did let him call his family to let them know he was alive and okay. He then got really creepy and asked if I had any cute girlfriends...ummm no, buddy, I'm not going to hook you up with any of my friends..I left after that. He did follow me down the beach for a few minutes trying to strike up conversation again...
Ooh, what about the guy in South Beach who hangs out on one of the main strips with his two kittens??? My husband and I walked by him one night and I got upset. I was going to go talk to him about the kittens but we were kind of in a hurry. Has anyone seen him?? Does he actually take care of the kittens or what? I didn't see any food near them for the kittens. He did have a cup out though for change..




When my family lived in Bangladesh as Peace Corps workers, you really had to watch out for beggers because 1) professional panhandlers went to the extreme, like using kids with deliberately amputated limbs, and 2) schoolchildren would often make extra pocket money be begging. Problem solved: My parents got the cook to make tons of extra food, and got the guards to hand out food and basic needs like clean water, blankets, clothes, etc out by the gate. They would also directly help these people. My dad helped build looms for making rope or cloth so women could make some extra income, and my mom would help women and children seek medical help.
I too try to stick with giving them food or items. I am more than happy to buy food for homeless people, and I buy Christmas gifts for family via the Heifer Project.
Hehe, one homeless guy started washing my window while I was waiting at a red light, and complimented that I looked very nice that day. I was so flattered that I gave him a couple bucks worth of quarters.





yea, as rose leigh said, ones here are RUDE! actually i dunno if she lives in the city but i do, and lemme tell ya, they will scam you for any and everything. my fave is the woman at 40th st. subway stop who begs for money to take the train, that she doesnt know where she is. ummm she's been there like 2 years now. i knew someone who gave her a map once.
but most homeless here are out for drugs or alcohol. i will offer to buy them food if they'd like sometimes. but i have encountered some young punk kids who are cool and just homeless begging for food. i guess it's really case by case.
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I really think people need to quit flaming...calm DOWN!
It really depends on the situation I'm in, I have no problem helping out homeless people with illnesses and such. But I don't feel a tiny, eeny, weeny bit of pity for the hobos that are drunks who will use the money you give them to buy liquor. Yes I do care what a homeless person does with the money I give them, I refuse to indirectly fuel someones addictions. If you really want a job, you will do anything to get it, including an able bodied homeless person.
UHH when I applied for ID I don't remember having to show anything, but thats just me.





Kaylinn,
I'd really like to know how the company is going to call you back to tell you that you got the job when you have no phone.
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