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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasty View Post
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=JDidNzQ12ZY

    Here is a video showing a cropcircle being formed.
    It is an admitted hoax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasty View Post
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=JDidNzQ12ZY

    Here is a video showing a cropcircle being formed.
    The problem is we live in an age where almost every movie, and TV show uses special effects to add things that cannot and don't happen in real life. Additionally programs to create and edit graphics and movies on your home computer abound allowing the aspiring artist or hoaxster to create any images or videos if they have the will to do so. We (or at least I) factor that in when considering the likelyhood of something being true. A poor quality video then on youtube no longer constitutes proof any more then the movie Star Wars is proof that the Force exist (although I suppose the Star Wars fans will have something to say about that )

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    If this is just a hoax and human are making these than why are some three dimensional? No human can make these. Maybe a scientist with a Sacred geometry degree.

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    ^^^Wow, hoax or not a hoax, thats impressive!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasty View Post
    No human can make these.
    By what reasoning do you believe humans can't sculpt a 3-d image in a plot of vegetables?

    Humans have been making 3-d art including sculptures, relief paintings, as well as drawing art in 3-d for thousands of years back in human history. Clearly there are people born with the talent. I don't know what a a ?Sacred? geometry degree is, but no previous artist who has worked in 3-d required a Sacred geometry degree. They do need talent, and not every one is born with natural artistic talents, but given the huge population of the world now, it's likely that someone out there (many really) are natural born sculptures. It's just corn.

    And really, if the supposed Aliens want to communicate with us, there are better ways then drawing big pictures in corn. Like step #1, show us your ships. A lot clearer. OTOH if they are trying to hide from us, then fucking around with our corn is not exactly laying low. Also interesting how the corn circles have gotten more and more artistic. I mean a logical person would just say this hoaxsters trying to one up each other, but I guess if you believe in Aliens that have a fetish for drawing in our corn, then you'd say their artistic skills working in the medium of corn is flourishing???

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    If you knew anything about cropcirlces, than you would about sacred geometry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasty View Post
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0

    If this is just a hoax and human are making these than why are some three dimensional? No human can make these. Maybe a scientist with a Sacred geometry degree.
    Ya. You're right.
    We're definitly not technologically advanced enough to make a three dimensional crop circle. *insert sarcasm*

    C'mon. It's simple topographical differences in how the stalks are smashed down. It's fucking corn, not rocket science.



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    Oh and for the record, you keep spouting about "sacred geometry"...

    The most common "sacred geometrical" forms ascribed to sacred geometry include the sine wave, the sphere, the vesica piscis, the 5 platonic solids, the torus (donut), the golden spiral, the tesseract (4-dimensional cube), and the merkaba (2 oppositely oriented and interpenetrating tetrahedrons).

    Ya wow, no way a human could make those...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirona View Post
    C'mon. It's simple topographical differences in how the stalks are smashed down. It's fucking corn, not rocket science.
    Exactly.

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    Sirona, did you read my post about the stalks?
    Whats interesting to me is that the stalks are not broken or damaged within some of the crop circles. They are not bent over at ground level but higher up - which isnt something you can acheive by using the plank method to create the official man-made circles.
    Not so spectacular in a corn or wheat field but when its happening to crops that have much thicker stems that would snap when bent under ordinary circumstancies it - to me anyway is interesting. Also some of the ones which appear in sand are facsinating!

    (My mind has gone blank with the crop name with the thick stem that Im talking about.)

    And for the people who are creating circles - wow, seriously wow because its no simple feat. But for the circles that no one can explain, well Im earger to find out what is causing them. Not everyone believes its Aliens - one alternative bunch of researchers I heard about are looking into the possibility that sound waves can create the patterns.




    Quote Originally Posted by Sirona View Post
    Ya. You're right.
    We're definitly not technologically advanced enough to make a three dimensional crop circle. *insert sarcasm*

    C'mon. It's simple topographical differences in how the stalks are smashed down. It's fucking corn, not rocket science.

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    Its the Mayans...they are trying to prepare us for 2112, when at midnight our civilization will end with a blazing drum solo and Geddy Lee will reveal that he and the band have made all the crop circles while dosing themselves with major acid.

    Seriously, crop circles are cool as fuck, even if they are man made.
    Dude!

    Geddy Lee, Rush and the Mayan civilization working as one towards the enlightenment of mankind in 2112?

    I nominate Mr. Lee & the band for the next Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award...

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    Im by no means baracking for the "alien" theory when it comes to crop circles. But if other life forms do exist its perfectly acceptable to me that they might fly around leaving their own brand of grafitti all over the place. Humans do, I dont see why we should assume no other life forms dont.

    Until I meet an alien I shall with hold from making assumptions about their lifestyles and behaviour!


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    You know, i'd like to think if an alien lifeform was going to come to our planet they'd have a better plan than to make a bunch of circles in the grass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasty View Post
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0

    If this is just a hoax and human are making these than why are some three dimensional? No human can make these. Maybe a scientist with a Sacred geometry degree.

    Humans have been creating works of art and architecture involving sacred geometry for thousands of years. Just go to Greece if you don't believe me. Anyone who has had a solid Geometry and Algebra course knows about the golden ratio (which is 1/phi with phi being equal to 1+ square root of 5 divided by 2, or algebraically as a+b/a= a/b ). This is the basis of the golden triangle, the golden rectangle, and the golden spiral, all part of sacred geometry. (The Parthenon is an example of the golden rectangle.) It's also directly correlated with the Fibonacci sequence, which can also be found in nature.

    So really, it doesn't take someone with a PhD, or even someone with a BS in mathematics. Anyone who is creative and artistic who had a good mathematical foundation from HIGH SCHOOL Geometry and Algebra courses could do this. You wouldn't even need to have taken Calculus. Then all you would need is a protractor, a ruler, a compass, and some paper, and you could draw this out. Mark it the corn with poles and rope, Then you get half a dozen of your buddies with their wooden boards and twine and go out. It's really not that hard.

    Sadly, most Americans didn't get a good solid mathematical foundation, many have never even taken algebra 1. And if they did, it was by half baked teachers. So when they see this it looks magical to them.

    Take a few math classes at your local community college and you will see it's not that hard to do.

    Also, I think the reason why crop circles have gotten more complicated over the past 2 decades isn't that the aliens are trying to tell us something, but now human beings have computer programs that can aid them in making more intricated designs.

    You also may want to look at some traditional Islamic art. Since many Islamic customs forbade them from making images of humans they threw themselves into geometric patterns. Many of this is much more complicated (not to mention colorful) than crop circles.

    So no, humans are not too dumb to do this.
    Last edited by Alia_of_the_Knife; 08-19-2007 at 09:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiepunkshocker View Post
    Sirona, did you read my post about the stalks?
    Whats interesting to me is that the stalks are not broken or damaged within some of the crop circles. They are not bent over at ground level but higher up - which isnt something you can acheive by using the plank method to create the official man-made circles.
    Not so spectacular in a corn or wheat field but when its happening to crops that have much thicker stems that would snap when bent under ordinary circumstancies it - to me anyway is interesting. Also some of the ones which appear in sand are facsinating!

    (My mind has gone blank with the crop name with the thick stem that Im talking about.)

    And for the people who are creating circles - wow, seriously wow because its no simple feat. But for the circles that no one can explain, well Im earger to find out what is causing them. Not everyone believes its Aliens - one alternative bunch of researchers I heard about are looking into the possibility that sound waves can create the patterns.
    I read up on them some time ago and remember reading how they weren't always broken etc.

    Just because something is unexplainable doesn't necessarily mean it is attributable to alien/supernatural beginnings. I mean hell... thunder and lightening used to be unexplainable ya know?

    Oh and uh i'm not saying I don't have any belief in the supernatural... I just think if someone is going to argue for it they should have an actual fact based argument.

    I really really really am bothered by the vapid sheep people who blindly believe anything.



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