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    Help ladies. What products should I use to get my hair back in good condition. I have had a full head of highlights (twice now) to go from dark brown to blonde and my hair is very dry and damaged.

    Products confuse me. One hairdresser said get a protein shampoo so i did. then when it ran out i went to the salon and a diff hairdresser said protein shampoo is to harden the hair and now i should use a moisturising shampoo. SO I bought that but it doesnt seem to be helping.

    I have also been using the GHD straightener a lot because since I went blonde my hair is a bit frizzy. Should I use soemthing to protect it when using the GHD?

    My hair used to be like silk but oh well I wanted blonde so I have to now try to get it as healthy as can be done. So please help me ladies I know this is the best place to ask.
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    Try Biosilk products. They've worked very well for me and I have thick hair that's prone to frizz and I color.

    Also, if you can splurge a bit, Kerastase makes some great products for fried hair.

    You may also consider going into a salon once a month for a glaze as well. They're fairly inexpensive and last for several weeks.
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    I recommend damage remedy. I'm not just recommending their product because I attend their school. A girl in my class had extremely damaged hair from highlights and after a week of this stuff she had a remarkable improvement.

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    Coconut oil is working wonders for me. I distribute a small amount like you would gel, when my hair is damp and let it air dry.

    Also shampooing less and only the roots helps. When you wash it out, it'll cleanse the length. But you don't need a whole huge head of foam...that can actually be too drying. Basic rule of thumb: concentrate shampoo on the roots and conditioner on the ends.

    Flat ironing is pretty damaging, and can be brutal on already fragile hair. I'd say you're masking the problem, but actually contributing to it by damaging your hair further. IMO, start air drying and nursing your hair back to health with treatments and gentle care. But that's just what I would do, of course.

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    yes, I agree that shampooing less is the first place to start. How often do you shampoo now? Your hair will be much happier if you can shampoo every third day or even just every other day. I'd get a dry shampoo to use in between washings so you don't look greasy. You might want to invest in some leave in products like Redken's Anti-snap or a good leave in conditioner (L'anza was always a favorite of mine but can't find it locally)


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    First off, realize that you cannot repair damage. You can only fix the LOOK of damage, but the hair is still fried and is likely to break off, or the breakage will spread up the shaft.

    So my first advice is to chop off as much as you can stand, to prevent the damage from spreading to the more healthy areas.

    Second, if you want to minimize damage, you have to minimize using a hot iron. No heat protectant spray actually works; again, it only makes it LOOK less damaged. One or two washes later, the more damaged hair would be evident. Try not-heat methods of straightening, such as jumbo velcro rollers in damp hair. A heavy deep conditioning treatment can minimize frizz as well. If you feel you HAVE to use an iron, try not to use it more than once a week. Also, use it ont he highest heat setting, and small sections at a time, so the hair is only exposed for a very brief moment to heat. To extend the straightened hair, use a dry shampoo...that way, you wont have to shampoo/dry/straighten all over again.

    I would shampoo minimally. I shampoo no more than once a week, and only let my hair get fully wet 2 or 3 times a week. Those other two times I use only a deep conditioner. Your hair, particularly very damaged hair, needs the oils your scalp produces to moisturize properly; shampoo strips those oils and dries out the strands.

    If your hair is extremely damaged, feels dry or gummy, too much protein will actually make your hair break. I recommend using Aphogee Keratin Reconstructor once a week (I don't shampoo before, I soak my hair, towel dry it, then coat my hair is Aphogee. Then I cover my head with a shower cap, and sit in a hot bath and let it sit for 15-20 minutes, then rinse)

    For the other washing/conditioning, I use TIGI's Dumb Blonde shampoo and conditioner (you can double the conditioner as a mask by leaving it on for about 10 minutes).

    Redken's Anti-Snap is an excellent leave in conditioner that I used daily when my hair is damaged.

    Also do not overly brush. I use a wide tooth wooden comb twice a day, and only enough strokes that my hair is detangled. Too much brushing rips and breaks the hair.

    And to maintain your blond, amke sure only your roots are touched up. No bleach/color should be pulled through the length.

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    I second the Dumb Blond rec. I used that set and would alternate it with Fashionista shampoo and conditioner. My hair loved that combo when I had highlights. Also second the Biosilk rec. I love this stuff, just a bit before blowdrying and my hair is silky soft.

    I want to try the Aphogee treatment, but I'm a little weirded out b/c I heard it smells like rotten eggs.

    I like to blowdry my hair straight with a paddle brush. A paddle brush grabs more hair so it's quicker and it's just plain easier to use than a round brush. Plus it gets my hair super straight. Sometimes I don't even need a flat iron afterwards. I feel blowdrying is less damaging than the flat iron, so if I can get my hair straight that way, I'll skip the flat iron. I use a T3 blowdryer and I think it has helped my highlighted hair to stay so healthy.

    I also put oil in my hair for about an hour before I shampoo. This has also helped to keep my long hair healthy. My hair drinks it right up. It helps to replace the oils that don't make it to the ends that are past my bra strap.

    I shampoo every other day at the most. I try to get away with a third day by wearing a hat or something if I can.

    I really think the T3 helped my hair. I bought it right around the time I started highlighting, so I could blowdry my hair quickly and not damage it too much. My hair is still healthy after a year and a half of highlighting. I'm on my way to waist length hair that is actually healthy even after all that bleach. I got mine on ebay with a warranty for way less than Sephora. It was expensive for a blow dryer, but totally worth it.

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    I have had to start doing color in the last year because of the few grey's that have started to sprout in my naturaly very dark hair, grrr! But anyway I'm also pretty dry the week or so after I color and the conditioner that comes with the color only seems to work until the next washing so I use Olive Oil to get my hair bouncy and shiny again.

    I coat (not soak) my hair in it and then use a shower cap and relax for about 10 mins. then rinse and wash it out. It can be messy so I suggest an old towel or two to have around to help with the mess.

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    Sorry for the thread jack, but LR - how exactly do you use a paddle brush? I use, like a clamp brush - it's like tongs, but with brush inside, if you know what I mean (I never master the round brush).
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    I also put oil in my hair for about an hour before I shampoo. This has also helped to keep my long hair healthy. My hair drinks it right up. It helps to replace the oils that don't make it to the ends that are past my bra strap.
    Latina - what kind/how much oil do you use? My hair is pretty bad right now and I am desperate to try anything to help it. Thanks for the info!
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    LR, are you talking about the Aphogee packets, or the bottle of conditioner?

    The packages are usually protein treatments which, yes, smell.

    But the Keratin Reconstructor is in a normal conditioner bottle, and smells kind of like nothing haha. It has an extremely faint fragrance, and even that is just typical conditioner smell.

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    if you dont mind spending some money, try Jonathan Weightless Smooth No-Frizz shampoo & conditioner. it's expensive, but my hair has NEVER felt softer. and i have very silky soft hair to begin with. this made my hair feel AMAZINGLY soft, and it smells so yummy too!

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    Jenny - I use the paddle brush to grab some hair near the roots and just pull out and straight as I blow dry it, following the brush with the hair dryer.

    circe221 - I use EVOO currently, but want to try others like jojoba or coconut. IDK, I just put a bit in my hand and coat my hair with it and keep doing that until I'm at the ends. How much you use really depends on your length and thickness.

    kandie - yes, I was referring to the packages.

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    Both stylists are right... sort of.

    A protein treatment will help stregthen chemically processed hair and help with the hair's porosity. Overuse it and you will "harden" the hair resulting in brittleness and breakage.

    Using moisturizing treatments will help make the hair feel better, but it's a bandaide... it won't do a damn thing about replenishing the keratin in your hair.

    My advice, use a protein treatment 2-3 times per week in conjuction with moisturizing shampoos and conditioners. Redken's CAT treatment is AWESOME!!! It's a pure liquid protein that you use between shampooing and conditioning. It's not a "feel good" product. You don't use it once and come out looking like a Suave commercial... but unlike treatments like K-Pac's Reconstuctor, it's protein only- this means your hair gets exactly what it needs without large moisture molecules getting in the way of proper absorbtion. You must use a conditioner after it, it will not add any moisture to the hair but it will streghten it like no other product.

    Now, let's talk about what your stylist is doing to you... Ask he or she (or you can just observe) if bleach is used scalp to ends with every highlight. If so, they're fucking up your hair. I prefer to only use bleach where it's needed... after the first highlight, it usually only needs to be applied on the regrowth. Any more, and you're just causing unnessacary damage.

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    yes, I agree that shampooing less is the first place to start. How often do you shampoo now? Your hair will be much happier if you can shampoo every third day or even just every other day. I'd get a dry shampoo to use in between washings so you don't look greasy. You might want to invest in some leave in products like Redken's Anti-snap or a good leave in conditioner (L'anza was always a favorite of mine but can't find it locally)
    everyday I know it's bad but it looks so shit the next day.
    I'll try only washing it every 2nd day. I could not go a third, i still have an oily scalp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mia M View Post
    Both stylists are right... sort of.

    A protein treatment will help stregthen chemically processed hair and help with the hair's porosity. Overuse it and you will "harden" the hair resulting in brittleness and breakage.

    Using moisturizing treatments will help make the hair feel better, but it's a bandaide... it won't do a damn thing about replenishing the keratin in your hair.

    My advice, use a protein treatment 2-3 times per week in conjuction with moisturizing shampoos and conditioners. Redken's CAT treatment is AWESOME!!! It's a pure liquid protein that you use between shampooing and conditioning. It's not a "feel good" product. You don't use it once and come out looking like a Suave commercial... but unlike treatments like K-Pac's Reconstuctor, it's protein only- this means your hair gets exactly what it needs without large moisture molecules getting in the way of proper absorbtion. You must use a conditioner after it, it will not add any moisture to the hair but it will streghten it like no other product.

    Now, let's talk about what your stylist is doing to you... Ask he or she (or you can just observe) if bleach is used scalp to ends with every highlight. If so, they're fucking up your hair. I prefer to only use bleach where it's needed... after the first highlight, it usually only needs to be applied on the regrowth. Any more, and you're just causing unnessacary damage.
    thanks I will try this, very good advise i really dont understand what products do etc.

    well i am still going blonde. my hair was dark dark brown, almost black with semi permanent colour so i have been going blonde in stages. I have had 2 full heads of foils 2 months apart, now today I have had a half head of foils and have now reached my desired shade of blonde so now my hairdresser said he will only do the roots next time.
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    Well, I like Deva conditioner. You can use it as a deep conditioner, or regular


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    everyday I know it's bad but it looks so shit the next day.
    I'll try only washing it every 2nd day. I could not go a third, i still have an oily scalp.
    You might have oily scalp because your hair is so dry! I use a boar bristle brush (to spread the hair oils) and brush from the roots. And I only wash twice a week-it did get oily at first, but settled down in a week or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mia M View Post

    My advice, use a protein treatment 2-3 times per week in conjuction with moisturizing shampoos and conditioners. Redken's CAT treatment is AWESOME!!! It's a pure liquid protein that you use between shampooing and conditioning. It's not a "feel good" product. You don't use it once and come out looking like a Suave commercial... but unlike treatments like K-Pac's Reconstuctor, it's protein only- this means your hair gets exactly what it needs without large moisture molecules getting in the way of proper absorbtion. You must use a conditioner after it, it will not add any moisture to the hair but it will streghten it like no other product.
    I'll have to try that redken stuff. I'm having breakage and keep my hair straight almost all the week. Which means using a flat iron almost every day to keep it that way. Will the redken make your hair soft and strong or stiff but strong?
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    ^^^ my hair feels soft and strong and I bleach the shit out of it and heat style every day. However, CAT treatment addresses damage caused by chemical stress to the hair... if your damage is from highlighting, permanent color, or perming it's perfect. If it's from heat styling and mechanical damage, you won't see a big improvement.

    If you're expeiriencing breakage caused by mechanical damage, I would recomend Redken's Extreme Anti Snap leave in treatment 2-4 times per week, and Redken's All Soft Silk Fuel (use it like CAT) once a week.

    You may want to consider the All Soft Velvet Whip which is a thermal activated conditioner... Basically, you apply it on damp hair and style as usual. The heat from your tools activates the moisture. It gives a really nice shine and softness to the hair, but it is a bandaide product IMHO... use it when you want the look and feel of healthy hair, but little will be done to improve the condition of the hair with the product.

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    Also.. a few times a month deep condition with Cholesterol(you can get it in the ethnic hair care section and it is SUPER cheap...about $3 and you'll get at least 6 treatments out of it). Wet your hair, slather this stuff on it, wrap your head in Saran Wrap, then wrap a hot towel around it all. Let it soak in for at least 1/2 an hour.Rinse.

    My hair is SOOOOO silky after I do this and I bleach the crap out of it.

    I've also fallen in love with Got 2 B's style-tini root to tip hair silkener. Again SUPER cheap(about $5) and it works great as a detangler and leave in conditioner. And it smells like tearoses...nice!

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    Damn, jaizaine again you post exactly what I was thinking about (like the "just when I was starting to enjoy...thread).

    I did a great job damaging my hair. I dyed it red myself for 2 years with box crap and Manic Panic streaks, then I had it all bleached back to my natural blonde which I promptly hated about 6 months ago, and now I finally just got it to a gorgeous shade of black. Its totally stretchy when wet and clumps together if I don't blow dry it (but I'm worried the blow dyer will cause more harm).

    I second the deep conditioning with Cholesterol. I think I saw that mentioned a few months ago in another thread on here and went out to try it (its freaking cheap too!) Its worked wonderfully on my hair but I'm worried I need something more intensive now.

    I tried Redken Anti Snap and noticed a bit of a difference but I haven't been using it long enough to really tell I think.

    The only products I use otherwise are Paul Mitchell Color Protect shampoo and conditioner. I'm so product illiterate but I'm sure I should be using more on it.

    I really want to bust out my new flat iron but I'm scared I'll cause insurmountable damage. Does Anti Snap work good before flat ironing or should I try something else to "protect" it?

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    ^If your hair stretches and clumps, it is beyond damaged, and no product in the world can save it. If you continue to use heat products, blowdrying/straightening, it WILL break off.

    You need a major hair cut. To preserve what hair you can, avoid all heat products all together, and shampoo minimally

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    If your hair simply feels dry, it needs moisture. If it's "mushy" or stretches, you are in dire need of protein. If you don't want to buy a protein treatment, a simple egg yolk will work. Be sure to wash it off with COLD water. Even warm water can make it cook in your hair.

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    First off, realize that you cannot repair damage. You can only fix the LOOK of damage, but the hair is still fried and is likely to break off, or the breakage will spread up the shaft.

    So my first advice is to chop off as much as you can stand, to prevent the damage from spreading to the more healthy areas.

    Second, if you want to minimize damage, you have to minimize using a hot iron. No heat protectant spray actually works; again, it only makes it LOOK less damaged. One or two washes later, the more damaged hair would be evident. Try not-heat methods of straightening, such as jumbo velcro rollers in damp hair. A heavy deep conditioning treatment can minimize frizz as well. If you feel you HAVE to use an iron, try not to use it more than once a week. Also, use it ont he highest heat setting, and small sections at a time, so the hair is only exposed for a very brief moment to heat. To extend the straightened hair, use a dry shampoo...that way, you wont have to shampoo/dry/straighten all over again.

    I would shampoo minimally. I shampoo no more than once a week, and only let my hair get fully wet 2 or 3 times a week. Those other two times I use only a deep conditioner. Your hair, particularly very damaged hair, needs the oils your scalp produces to moisturize properly; shampoo strips those oils and dries out the strands.

    If your hair is extremely damaged, feels dry or gummy, too much protein will actually make your hair break. I recommend using Aphogee Keratin Reconstructor once a week (I don't shampoo before, I soak my hair, towel dry it, then coat my hair is Aphogee. Then I cover my head with a shower cap, and sit in a hot bath and let it sit for 15-20 minutes, then rinse)

    For the other washing/conditioning, I use TIGI's Dumb Blonde shampoo and conditioner (you can double the conditioner as a mask by leaving it on for about 10 minutes).

    Redken's Anti-Snap is an excellent leave in conditioner that I used daily when my hair is damaged.

    Also do not overly brush. I use a wide tooth wooden comb twice a day, and only enough strokes that my hair is detangled. Too much brushing rips and breaks the hair.

    And to maintain your blond, amke sure only your roots are touched up. No bleach/color should be pulled through the length.
    Damn girl!!! I need a system like yours!

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